Any one know about the VQ33?
#1
Guest
Posts: n/a
Any one know about the VQ33?
After reading the stickie, it seemed pretty interesting. 11:1 CR and 3.3L.
I would be putting this in my S13 not my 3rd gen.
Also this would just hold me off untill I could get build a turbo setup for a VQ30, or build a high compression VQ35. The VQ33 was acttractive because it would give a mildly high power engine with just a couple hundred bucks. I figred $400 for a DEK, then $800-900 for a 3.5L. Thats all the stickie had for info any way, and the pics didn't work.
Any way if you guys have heard anything since the last thead died off, that'd be cool.
~Alex
I would be putting this in my S13 not my 3rd gen.
Also this would just hold me off untill I could get build a turbo setup for a VQ30, or build a high compression VQ35. The VQ33 was acttractive because it would give a mildly high power engine with just a couple hundred bucks. I figred $400 for a DEK, then $800-900 for a 3.5L. Thats all the stickie had for info any way, and the pics didn't work.
Any way if you guys have heard anything since the last thead died off, that'd be cool.
~Alex
#4
Originally Posted by SR20DEN
Besides, do you honestly think you can put one together for less than the cost of a VQ35?
#6
Originally Posted by Alex_V
But which one would have more power? I know Id have to buy at least the crank and rods of the VQ35, and might as well get a whole engine. But Im just wondering if the VQ33 would make more power untill I could get some mods for the VQ35.
~Alex
~Alex
#7
Guest
Posts: n/a
Id use a full DEK with the 3.5L crank and rods. Other then that the 3L heads and dek VI. Thats all I know from reading the sitcky any way. Id be using megasquirt for engine management so tuning would be easy. Perfect ARF and as much timing as I want. So thats not an issue.
Im just seeing if its possible for the VQ33 to make more power then either the VQ30 or VQ35 by just using the VQ35 rods and crank. This is just a temporary engine any way, as Ill be going build NA VQ35 or Boosted VQ30.
~Alex
Im just seeing if its possible for the VQ33 to make more power then either the VQ30 or VQ35 by just using the VQ35 rods and crank. This is just a temporary engine any way, as Ill be going build NA VQ35 or Boosted VQ30.
~Alex
#8
Originally Posted by Alex_V
Im just seeing if its possible for the VQ33 to make more power then either the VQ30 or VQ35 by just using the VQ35 rods and crank.
~Alex
~Alex
#9
The slight increase in compression will not be enough to counteract decrease in displacement (3.5 to 3.3L) to make this worthwhile imho... I think you could make more power with just a stock compression 3.5.
#11
Originally Posted by Alex_V
Id use a full DEK with the 3.5L crank and rods. Other then that the 3L heads and dek VI. Thats all I know from reading the sitcky any way. Id be using megasquirt for engine management so tuning would be easy. Perfect ARF and as much timing as I want. So thats not an issue.
Im just seeing if its possible for the VQ33 to make more power then either the VQ30 or VQ35 by just using the VQ35 rods and crank. This is just a temporary engine any way, as Ill be going build NA VQ35 or Boosted VQ30.
~Alex
Im just seeing if its possible for the VQ33 to make more power then either the VQ30 or VQ35 by just using the VQ35 rods and crank. This is just a temporary engine any way, as Ill be going build NA VQ35 or Boosted VQ30.
~Alex
I might be wrong, but i though 3L heads and 3.5 liter bottom end yielded lower compression, which was ideal for boosted applications. I wouldnt spend this much time on a "temporary engine".
megasquirt won't run on the VQ ignition system, you'll have to get rid of the coilpacks.
#12
Guest
Posts: n/a
Actually the MS will run Coil over plugs. You get ford's EDIS-6 and then modify it. and If I decide to not run the COP's I can just use a plain EDIS-6 and sell the COP's.
The engine Im making is a VQ33, a 3L block, heads, and piston, and a 3.5L crank and rods. The 3.5L crank gives a longer stroke, and the rods are shorter so the pistons wont hit the heads.
A VQ32 is what tilly has made, and it uses a full VQ35, but with 3L crank and maybe rods Idk about that one. The 3.2L is the low compression/hi rev one. the 3.3L is the lower rev but higher compression.
the VQ32 is around 9.5:1 and the VQ33 is about 11:1 the only negative to the VQ33 is it doenst like to rev as much as the VQ30.
The only thing I want to know is if the VQ33 will make more power then the VQ35. Maybe I can talk to tilly. He should have some VQ35 parts laying around from building the VQ32's.
~Alex
The engine Im making is a VQ33, a 3L block, heads, and piston, and a 3.5L crank and rods. The 3.5L crank gives a longer stroke, and the rods are shorter so the pistons wont hit the heads.
A VQ32 is what tilly has made, and it uses a full VQ35, but with 3L crank and maybe rods Idk about that one. The 3.2L is the low compression/hi rev one. the 3.3L is the lower rev but higher compression.
the VQ32 is around 9.5:1 and the VQ33 is about 11:1 the only negative to the VQ33 is it doenst like to rev as much as the VQ30.
The only thing I want to know is if the VQ33 will make more power then the VQ35. Maybe I can talk to tilly. He should have some VQ35 parts laying around from building the VQ32's.
~Alex
#13
Originally Posted by Alex_V
Actually the MS will run Coil over plugs. You get ford's EDIS-6 and then modify it. and If I decide to not run the COP's I can just use a plain EDIS-6 and sell the COP's.
The engine Im making is a VQ33, a 3L block, heads, and piston, and a 3.5L crank and rods. The 3.5L crank gives a longer stroke, and the rods are shorter so the pistons wont hit the heads.
A VQ32 is what tilly has made, and it uses a full VQ35, but with 3L crank and maybe rods Idk about that one. The 3.2L is the low compression/hi rev one. the 3.3L is the lower rev but higher compression.
the VQ32 is around 9.5:1 and the VQ33 is about 11:1 the only negative to the VQ33 is it doenst like to rev as much as the VQ30.
The only thing I want to know is if the VQ33 will make more power then the VQ35. Maybe I can talk to tilly. He should have some VQ35 parts laying around from building the VQ32's.
~Alex
The engine Im making is a VQ33, a 3L block, heads, and piston, and a 3.5L crank and rods. The 3.5L crank gives a longer stroke, and the rods are shorter so the pistons wont hit the heads.
A VQ32 is what tilly has made, and it uses a full VQ35, but with 3L crank and maybe rods Idk about that one. The 3.2L is the low compression/hi rev one. the 3.3L is the lower rev but higher compression.
the VQ32 is around 9.5:1 and the VQ33 is about 11:1 the only negative to the VQ33 is it doenst like to rev as much as the VQ30.
The only thing I want to know is if the VQ33 will make more power then the VQ35. Maybe I can talk to tilly. He should have some VQ35 parts laying around from building the VQ32's.
~Alex
Still, way too much work for a temporary engine that most likely wouldnt make more power than a stock VQ35.
#14
Originally Posted by Alex_V
The only thing I want to know is if the VQ33 will make more power then the VQ35. Maybe I can talk to tilly. He should have some VQ35 parts laying around from building the VQ32's.
~Alex
~Alex
#16
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (17)
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Montreal, Qc, Canada
Posts: 5,437
Just get a cheap junkyard VQ35 and call it a day. You can run 13's on street tires all day for maybe one grand and you'll have a reliable, factory assembled engine, not some shot-in-the-dark hybrid nobody has even tried.
You want to be original? Buy a VQ40 and get a tranny adaptor plate machined.
You want to be original? Buy a VQ40 and get a tranny adaptor plate machined.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
BigDogJonx
All Motor
260
04-30-2017 10:29 PM