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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 03:04 PM
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How many revolutions can it take to align timing marks on the 3.5?

Seems like I've been at this for an hour (manually cranking the engine). The engine is from an '02 I35 and there are two yellow links and one orange link on the primary chain. In the FSM, it states that the yellow links must line up with the punched mating marks on each sprocket and the orange link must line up with the notch on the crankshaft sprocket. Also, the cam lobes nearest the timing chain on the right bank are supposed to turn inward (at roughly a 45 degree angle) facing each other. Also, the gold links on the secondary chains are supposed to line up with the mating marks on each outer cam sprocket. Lastly, piston #1 is supposed to be at top dead center at this point. MY QUESTIONS: How long can it take to make all this happen? Does all of this need to happen? Help...I'm gettin' tired! Thx.
Old Jul 23, 2006 | 03:09 PM
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I got mine to be at TDC within 2-3 complete turns I think. Do you already have the 3.0 timing equipment installed or is it still the 3.5 stuff?
Old Jul 23, 2006 | 03:23 PM
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Nismo3112
I got mine to be at TDC within 2-3 complete turns I think. Do you already have the 3.0 timing equipment installed or is it still the 3.5 stuff?
Isn't it supposed to be at TDC whenever you align the crank pulley to the mark on the water pump cover?

Just curious about this because I did not align the colored links, but at "TDC" my cams were at a 45 degree angle.
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Well there is a TDC for the compression stroke and the exhaust? stroke.
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Well there is a TDC for the compression stroke and the exhaust? stroke.

As far as I read in other threads it did not matter which stroke as long as it was at #1 TDC. All I know is I got the marks in the correct spots.
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Well the FSM always says to put the #1 cylinder on TDC on the compression stroke...
Old Jul 24, 2006 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Nismo3112
Well the FSM always says to put the #1 cylinder on TDC on the compression stroke...
That's when everything is already connected. But theoretically, if you're putting everything back together, the piston could be at TDC on the exhaust stroke and it'd work perfectly fine. Only the cams/valves determine which stroke the motor is on.

So generally speaking, you should turn the crank to the nearest TDC then start connecting the chains regardless of if it's on the compression stroke or not.
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Originally Posted by nismology
That's when everything is already connected. But theoretically, if you're putting everything back together, the piston could be at TDC on the exhaust stroke and it'd work perfectly fine. Only the cams/valves determine which stroke the motor is on.

So generally speaking, you should turn the crank to the nearest TDC then start connecting the chains regardless of if it's on the compression stroke or not.

That's exactly what I was thinking. #1 TDC is #1 TDC. as long as all the sprockets are installed correctly and everything is lined up with the marks on the 3.0 chain per the FSM every swap shouldn't have a problem with timing being off, as long as the #1 piston is at TDC.
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Originally Posted by nismology
That's when everything is already connected. But theoretically, if you're putting everything back together, the piston could be at TDC on the exhaust stroke and it'd work perfectly fine. Only the cams/valves determine which stroke the motor is on.

So generally speaking, you should turn the crank to the nearest TDC then start connecting the chains regardless of if it's on the compression stroke or not.
I'll confirm this tomorrow when I hopefully get it started.
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Some images to help those who may be trying to obtain TDC.



about to crack open the timing case and make sure everything is aligned and take more pictures.
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