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200whp MEVI vs. 200whp 00VI dyno comparison.

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Old 09-13-2006, 06:59 PM
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What about eng's dyno on the last one (in red)? What setup is that? USIM I take it?

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Old 09-13-2006, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tatanko
Still waiting for Dandy to PM me back
Just did... I had several to catch up on.. still haven't got through them all yet...

BTW, I'm wondering what you guys are trying to compare here...just the shape of the curves for MEVI vs 00VI? But the graphs are all different cars with different mods on different dynos so....?
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Old 09-14-2006, 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by DandyMax
Just did... I had several to catch up on.. still haven't got through them all yet...

BTW, I'm wondering what you guys are trying to compare here...just the shape of the curves for MEVI vs 00VI? But the graphs are all different cars with different mods on different dynos so....?

mainly the shap of the curves.... I have seem many different setups. Yours is the only i have seen NA to ever really exceed 200whp.
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Old 09-14-2006, 05:33 AM
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And to think at the time (nearly a year ago) Dandys set-up was focused only A/F & rev limit... no timing ..

It's the little things that make a big difference.
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Old 09-14-2006, 07:09 AM
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Well there was some timing... I had a JWT ECU then.. don't now though, it's all EU.
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Old 09-14-2006, 07:58 AM
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Timing is where you make or lose power. Air fuel has very little effect on HP until you start to get really crazy with it.

Case in point, I30tMikeD's turbo dyno WITH MEVI in which he made 75WHP LESS with a conservatively timed JWT ECU with a 7000 rev limit as opposed to a stock ECU, that's WITH MEVI. The rev limiter alone should have made him additional power, but his car was WAYYY more powerful with the stock ECU.
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Old 09-14-2006, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
Timing is where you make or lose power. Air fuel has very little effect on HP until you start to get really crazy with it.

Case in point, I30tMikeD's turbo dyno WITH MEVI in which he made 75WHP LESS with a conservatively timed JWT ECU with a 7000 rev limit as opposed to a stock ECU, that's WITH MEVI. The rev limiter alone should have made him additional power, but his car was WAYYY more powerful with the stock ECU.
I would concur. The effects will be less amplified on a N/A car though of course...
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Old 09-14-2006, 08:48 AM
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Seeing these dynos is encouraging to me that my car (99SE 5spd) may see close to 200whp with my port matched 00VI/CAI/Y/E. Time to dyno.
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Old 09-14-2006, 09:28 AM
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I agree, timing is the key on our engines...and dandy even in his old dyno was running some timing advance from the JWT ecu...5 or 6 extra degrees I think is what you typically see with the JWT ecu's...plus he is really dialed in well (his A/F) most of us are really not to be honest. I think all of us could see 220whp like his car if we tuned really well and ran a good deal of timing advance.
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Old 09-14-2006, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
There was definitely a loss post fastcat, but your car was moved to use the lift and then restrapped down. That alone could have accounted for ~3-5whp loss.
I guess I just blocked that from my memory. What I do remember making about 3-5whp difference was the JWT PopCharger filter vs Apexi filter...
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Old 09-14-2006, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Zack342
mainly the shap of the curves.... I have seem many different setups. Yours is the only i have seen NA to ever really exceed 200whp.
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Old 09-14-2006, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
In my opinion you guys are not making a valid comparison for a number of reasons, the most obvious of which is that different dynos read differently. That and the fact that Zacks dyno is atypically high further invalidates the results for me.
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Old 09-15-2006, 12:15 PM
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I need all the cars on the same dyno in the same gear on the same day

BTW My auto > *
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
I need all the cars on the same dyno in the same gear on the same day

BTW My auto > *
My Auto > Your Auto > *
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Old 09-16-2006, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by deezo
My Auto > Your Auto > *

Prob, mines starting to slip...

I am lookin at things with 7 gears now
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Old 09-16-2006, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
I am lookin at things with 7 gears now
And you were talking about me and the new ECU.....
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
Prob, mines starting to slip...

I am lookin at things with 7 gears now
hmmm.... 200000 miles and all kinds of wierd stuff starts to happen. My car is just a daily driver from here on in.
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