clutch stage = clutch stiffness?
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clutch stage = clutch stiffness?
i think this is the forum to put it in, if not, can the mods move it to the appropriate forum.
anyway, back to my question. does the stage number of the clutch determine stiffness? or how about the power rating of the clutch.
on ebay, the f1 racing clutch stage 2 is claimed to handle 312hp and 298lb to the crank. the stage 3 of this clutch is claimed to handle 345hp and 315 lb to the crank. the stage 3 clutch doesnt seem to hold the power of other stage 3 clutches do, but its still a stage 3.... is it marketing? is diff. stages just a cool way to say that it can handle more power than stage 2? would there be a big difference in driveability?
link to stage 2 clutch:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/F1-RA...43111547QQrdZ1
link to stage 3 clutch:
http://search.ebay.com/search/search...fsop=1%26fsoo%
anyway, back to my question. does the stage number of the clutch determine stiffness? or how about the power rating of the clutch.
on ebay, the f1 racing clutch stage 2 is claimed to handle 312hp and 298lb to the crank. the stage 3 of this clutch is claimed to handle 345hp and 315 lb to the crank. the stage 3 clutch doesnt seem to hold the power of other stage 3 clutches do, but its still a stage 3.... is it marketing? is diff. stages just a cool way to say that it can handle more power than stage 2? would there be a big difference in driveability?
link to stage 2 clutch:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/F1-RA...43111547QQrdZ1
link to stage 3 clutch:
http://search.ebay.com/search/search...fsop=1%26fsoo%
#2
I never heard of Gripforce. why would you go cheap on the clutch? how easy would it be to change it out if it would end up being sh!tty?
i'm sure there are other companies like ACT, SPEC, Exedy, Clutchnet, just to name a few, that make much better clutches for the max.
better yet ask what people with your year and your mods use, and what their impression is.
that's all i want to say on that, then, check out www.specclutch.com, and you can read what the difference between each stage and clutch material used for it is. different companies use different materials for each stage, so ACT and Exedy might not be using the same material for stage 2.
and finally: always do a little reading and research before you ask a simple question on an Advanced forum.
i'm sure there are other companies like ACT, SPEC, Exedy, Clutchnet, just to name a few, that make much better clutches for the max.
better yet ask what people with your year and your mods use, and what their impression is.
that's all i want to say on that, then, check out www.specclutch.com, and you can read what the difference between each stage and clutch material used for it is. different companies use different materials for each stage, so ACT and Exedy might not be using the same material for stage 2.
and finally: always do a little reading and research before you ask a simple question on an Advanced forum.
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i have Exedy Stage 1 (not ebay, and not sure they are different), the clutch has a real nice feel, slightly stiffer than stock. Not sure I would buy it again, from what im told for most of the n/a guys we can get away using the stock nissan oem clutch.
undecided if I will go that route or not on my next clutch, im concerned with quality and durability. So would like something a little stiffer than stock, but tough and realiable.
Any clutch fit that description to anyone?
Plus so many variables, im still wondering if I broke my clutch in correctly. Did put in around 500 miles on it before I started zippping around.
but yeah, i need a good drag racing clutch for my 4th gen, which should be putting out 220 hp or a tad bit under to the front wheels.
undecided if I will go that route or not on my next clutch, im concerned with quality and durability. So would like something a little stiffer than stock, but tough and realiable.
Any clutch fit that description to anyone?
Plus so many variables, im still wondering if I broke my clutch in correctly. Did put in around 500 miles on it before I started zippping around.
but yeah, i need a good drag racing clutch for my 4th gen, which should be putting out 220 hp or a tad bit under to the front wheels.
#7
Originally Posted by Nismo3112
No not really.. It depends on the pressure plate.. My SPEC stage 3 had the same pedal feel as a stock clutch.
Originally Posted by Biggs_02
yeah i got spec stage 3 and it pretty much feels like stock...just gotta give it more gas when you get it out of first gear.
Same here, but it chatters like he!! and makes parking alittle harder.
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well, in my defense, i did some searching and didnt find anything useful. I also didn't suspect this question ever being asked. However, it could have been a more useful thread in the general maxima forum or something. but i have a spec stage 1, and it chattered like a ****. I hate it, friction point changes all the time, sometimes it slips. feels like a sponge. smells like booty when i ride it just a little bit. but I'm in the process of putting in a 3.5 w/ my 5 speed, so i was just seeing what kinda information people could give me. I'd really hate to pay a lot of money for an aftermarket clutch that would only help me put down a little extra power from a motor. would i be able to reuse my spec stage 1 pressure plate on like... an act clutch or something? For a daily commuting driver, my clutch cant be too stiff. Also, my girlfriend has weak legs.
#9
As stated some of the after market clutches feel like stock, some a little stiffer. I've yet to hear a bad complaint about cluthnet cluthces, but its on the pricey side but worth it.
There was an org member who tried one of those Ebay clutches, stage 3 and it felt kinda bad, not as bad as expected but definately something they didnt want to re-buy.
There was an org member who tried one of those Ebay clutches, stage 3 and it felt kinda bad, not as bad as expected but definately something they didnt want to re-buy.
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Originally Posted by Biggs_02
ok ok what is the "chattering" we are talkin about sorry to sound like a noob but i don't get it when you guys say "chattering" i'm just like wtf is that?
#19
5th gen 3.0 clutch is totally different from 5.5 gen clutch. 3.5L has a flywheel has 1 extra tooth, the clutch will not line up right.
IIRC 5th gen AE (2001) OEM clutch = Exedy Stage 1 Clutch
I'm sure, but can someone confirm?
IIRC 5th gen AE (2001) OEM clutch = Exedy Stage 1 Clutch
I'm sure, but can someone confirm?
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Originally Posted by vipervadim
5th gen 3.0 clutch is totally different from 5.5 gen clutch. 3.5L has a flywheel has 1 extra tooth, the clutch will not line up right.
IIRC 5th gen AE (2001) OEM clutch = Exedy Stage 1 Clutch
I'm sure, but can someone confirm?
IIRC 5th gen AE (2001) OEM clutch = Exedy Stage 1 Clutch
I'm sure, but can someone confirm?
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wait what?
the exedy stage 1 is the same as the 5th gen clutch? no way...
I mean exedy making clutches for nissan and rebranding them to say nissan is one thing...but are you sure they are the same specs (clamping force, etc.)?
the exedy stage 1 is the same as the 5th gen clutch? no way...
I mean exedy making clutches for nissan and rebranding them to say nissan is one thing...but are you sure they are the same specs (clamping force, etc.)?
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