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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by grey99max

What do you think of the Shift_Fast_2 concept of shifting the auto while running with monster motors, by cutting spark or fuel or nitrous during the shift? I know it make a heck of a difference to my car. I wonder if it could save automatics in most high-HP cars ??? I think this could be important, but what do I know ?
If I can share... The guys on LS1.com have been using the MSD window switch for a while now to take it easy on their autos while spraying just like you. I think they operate theirs from 3000 - 6000 on the bottle.

Also, The spark retard you are mentioning is done from the factory on LS1's to cut down on warranty claims. The ECU retards the WOT timing right before the shift to cut down on the shock to the tranny. I believe GM calls it "Torque Management". Some people have this feature deleted (via programming) to get better times. If I remember correctly this was also done on 5 speed 5.0 Mustangs late in their run (in the 1990's). Ford did this also for warranty reasons as the T-5 death rate is high. Some people swapped out ECU's to earlier models for gains. I don't know if this worked though.

This is a great thread!!!
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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
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If I can help Kevlo - Keep in mind that the computer will tell the converter to "lock up" at highway speeds and you shouldn't see any loss of MPG on the highway. I would get at least the 2800. 3.0L Max's are very soft on the bottom and a looser converter will help. When I had my 98 Formula Firebird I wanted go with a 3200 PI converter. I never got around to doing it however ($800).People were knocking at least half second in the 1/4 mile with a converter change like this. Some people were going as high as a Yank 4400 converter on the street. Everything changes with the lock up feature that eliminates all slippage or "stall" when engaged. The only downside I see to this set up on a Max is no traction.

I hope this helps,
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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Gears & Crosses

This is a great thread!!!
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Nice to have some more racers chiming in here !!
Old Dec 7, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by grey99max
Nice to have some more racers chiming in here !!
Thanks for welcoming me in. It's nice to see guys like you forge ground at the strip with the automagic. I would think this would be the way to go with FWD. My 6 speed is quick but very inconsistant. Not to mention that its very hard on the chassis. If you nail 2nd hard, the engagement can be pretty violent on a prepped track.

Grey, I bet you have been schoolin' some Hondas at the track, huh...

Keep up the hard work,
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Gears & Crosses
Thanks for welcoming me in. It's nice to see guys like you forge ground at the strip with the automagic. I would think this would be the way to go with FWD. My 6 speed is quick but very inconsistant. Not to mention that its very hard on the chassis. If you nail 2nd hard, the engagement can be pretty violent on a prepped track.

Grey, I bet you have been schoolin' some Hondas at the track, huh...

Keep up the hard work,
Gears
Hey, we have a resident crafty Canadian "Jime" on here that's shown everybody how to make the automatic work. I've just been crafting some add-ons for the shift_fast, with help from others here, and creating the MSD-controlled Shift_FAST controller.

I'm very consistent at the track, unless I hook up just right, then the car really moves! Learning how to make the controller cut spray at shift, as well as control the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts, has worked very well for a junkyard engine and tranny with spray, on a car with full exhaust and no weight reduction - 3300 lbs at the line! I still need to dyno-tune and figure out more traction in the first 330'. Shifts are very quick and hard. I like it.

The only import I can't whip is one with a big snail and lots of boost - and I've carved up some of those on their bad days. These guys run 10s and 11s, mostly with carved-out Hondas, but they're not a full street car, either. Very few nissans ever show on the strip, and track Maximas are almost non-existent around here. It's been fun spraying the 3.0 and automatic.....
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