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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 11:46 AM
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q4nismo, i got my RPM signal from behind the cluster since i have too many things hooked up to the ECU's harness, it interrupts the signal when you have to many devices off one wire. also i got the speed sensor from the middle harness in the cluster, its pin 28. as for the solenoids, you got it right. For ground, you dont have to go through the trouble and get the harness ground, you can ground it to anything in the car (bolts or anything).


ok. yeh i already have my msd hooked to the ecu.
what are you using as your shifters?

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Old Jun 9, 2008 | 10:40 PM
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dont have the manual setup done yet. gotta figure out what kind of buttons to use i wanna have something comfortable. and yes use the pin 28 as i circled in the picture..

UPDATE: I finally understand the TPS setting, i adjust the voltage and now its perfect, mph is perfect as well, and also rpm. im modifying my daily driving map little by little perfecting it. so far i love it!!!!!!!!!!!, coming to a corner without having to stop to then accelerate and be in 1st gear > priceless. compared to coming to a slow down then accelerating and staying stuck in 4th lol.
Old Jun 10, 2008 | 04:25 AM
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compared to coming to a slow down then accelerating and staying stuck in 4th lol.
I hate that At least kick down to 2nd or something, right? Ahh!
Old Jun 10, 2008 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by streetzlegend
compared to coming to a slow down then accelerating and staying stuck in 4th lol.
yes, i just despise that lol! sometimes i just want to take a metal bat and just whale on the tranny
Old Jun 10, 2008 | 01:19 PM
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[I think Im gonna catch a beating for this...]

Ya'll going through all this trouble... to make your autos act like 5spds

5spd swap- No wiring needed :-D

ok Im done, I just had to let that out, lol. There are plenty times in traffic that I wish I had an auto, lol

STREEEEEETZ!!!! I want a ride dangit!

This supra stick thing is the coolest thing to hit the maxima auto world since the shift_mod rigs!

This thing with a high-stall, omg streetz! you're actually gonna make me be concerned about you at the track against me lol
Old Jun 10, 2008 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 95BLKMAX
[I think Im gonna catch a beating for this...]

Ya'll going through all this trouble... to make your autos act like 5spds

5spd swap- No wiring needed :-D

ok Im done, I just had to let that out, lol. There are plenty times in traffic that I wish I had an auto, lol
This thing with a high-stall, omg streetz! you're actually gonna make me be concerned about you at the track against me lol
pshhhh who would want a 5 spd now
suprastick: couple wires, programming
5spd: lets seee, gather parts, remove stock parts, install new parts, rewire a bunch of wires, bla bla bla.


oh, and speaking of stall speed, what do you have yours set up as streetz?
Old Jun 19, 2008 | 12:48 AM
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this is so great I don't even know what to say. I can't wait to do this.
Old Jun 19, 2008 | 06:06 AM
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rewire a bunch of wires,

I know your point, but this action is not necessary in an A325MT swap, just sayin'.
Old Aug 1, 2008 | 01:58 PM
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if I can put those shift pedals behind the steering wheel, which control the AT gearbox, that would be great.
Old Aug 1, 2008 | 02:01 PM
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just a lil warning you need a steering wheel puller to take off your steering wheel or well at least my 4th gen wheel. Ohh and a T50 safety torque to take the airbag off.
Old Aug 1, 2008 | 02:04 PM
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Really? I thought you just yanked it off?

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I took apart my whole dash last month and thought it would be a lot easier to take the steering wheel off but after taking the damn bolt off it still wouldn't budge. I then called up my buddy who used to work at the Nissan dealership and he told me that the models that came with airbags needed a steering wheel puller to take them off. So their you have it... Ohh and its a ***** to use one of those tools if your not careful to score where the steering wheel is when you take it off it wont look right when you put it back on. Their is a reason why the average person doesn't have this tool. I have decided that instead of doing the paddles I will use the cruse control buttons and eventual make my own paddle setup without taking the damn wheel off. Then again I am not going to do this mod for a while anyways with my funds being this low.
Old Aug 1, 2008 | 04:21 PM
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Hmmm i was able to swap mine with my wife's before I junked her 95 and didn't have to use a puller on either one. The rubber surrounding the wheel came loose and kept moving every time I moved the wheel so I swapped for her leather covered GLE wheel.

I am actually thinking of using my cruise buttons again for cruise control because I hardly ever manually shift and they could be mounted elsewhere.
Old Aug 2, 2008 | 12:50 AM
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That's weird when I took the main bolt off I pulled that wheel pretty hard not trying to break anything and it didn't budge... I guess I will have take a closer look at it.
Old Aug 4, 2008 | 02:54 PM
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I have been doing some playing with the Suprastick for street use. I used to leave my OD off in town to keep the trans in 3rd gear but now with the Suprastick I have programed it to stay in 3rd and lockup the converter. I have my 2-3 shift set to 25 mph and 3rd lockup at 28. My 3-4 shift is set to 42 mph and lockup at 50. This keeps the trans in 3rd in town and also locks up the converter to prevent the rpm from jumping every time you touch the throttle. It seems to work well for hitting the freeway as well, shifting to 4th at 42 and locking at 50, really a big improvement over stock. The beauty of this is that you can set it to what ever you like to suit your driving habits. This is the same map I use for the track as well because those settings are for WOT and have no effect on the street unless of course you go WOT.


The more I use this gizmo the more I like it even though I bought it for the track. Most of the features aren't for racing but for street use.
Old Aug 4, 2008 | 04:45 PM
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I have been doing some playing with the Suprastick for street use. I used to leave my OD off in town to keep the trans in 3rd gear but now with the Suprastick I have programed it to stay in 3rd and lockup the converter. I have my 2-3 shift set to 25 mph and 3rd lockup at 28. My 3-4 shift is set to 42 mph and lockup at 50. This keeps the trans in 3rd in town and also locks up the converter to prevent the rpm from jumping every time you touch the throttle. It seems to work well for hitting the freeway as well, shifting to 4th at 42 and locking at 50, really a big improvement over stock. The beauty of this is that you can set it to what ever you like to suit your driving habits. This is the same map I use for the track as well because those settings are for WOT and have no effect on the street unless of course you go WOT.


The more I use this gizmo the more I like it even though I bought it for the track. Most of the features aren't for racing but for street use.
mine just came in today!

i was originally going to let the TCM control the TC lockup but i might change my mind after what you just said.

so for the shift settings, what did you put down the TC to turn off for 3rd and 4rth?
Old Aug 5, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by G4nismo
mine just came in today!

i was originally going to let the TCM control the TC lockup but i might change my mind after what you just said.

so for the shift settings, what did you put down the TC to turn off for 3rd and 4rth?
Currently they are at 20 and 15 but thats probably a little low.

Here is a pic of my latest gadget box. Lexan cover with my wideband and Suprastick behind.





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^^^ oh very neat. i'll have to post pics of my setup once i'm finished.

gotta another question though. i'm having issues w/ my LCD screen. i have it powered up right and the serial cable hooked up from the suprastick. thing is, nothing comes on, just the back LED lights. i tried unplugging and replugging the serial cable and nothing happens.

did you actually connect the lcd screen to a comp and activate something or did it work by just plugging it in?
Old Aug 5, 2008 | 03:44 PM
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^^^ oh very neat. i'll have to post pics of my setup once i'm finished.

gotta another question though. i'm having issues w/ my LCD screen. i have it powered up right and the serial cable hooked up from the suprastick. thing is, nothing comes on, just the back LED lights. i tried unplugging and replugging the serial cable and nothing happens.

did you actually connect the lcd screen to a comp and activate something or did it work by just plugging it in?
It worked just by plugging it in. The display has to be disconnected when plugged into a computer though. I tried to parallel them and have both on at the same time but doesn't work. I now have the backlite on as well behind the tinted lexan.
Old Aug 5, 2008 | 03:56 PM
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hmmm well i'm really stumped then.
i know they have some kinda advance testing software you can download for my screen so i'm gonna try mess w/ that see if i can turn it on or something.
Old Aug 5, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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hmmm well i'm really stumped then.
i know they have some kinda advance testing software you can download for my screen so i'm gonna try mess w/ that see if i can turn it on or something.
Did you get the same one I did or something else?
Old Aug 5, 2008 | 04:49 PM
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i was going to but i really wanted a diff color back light so it'll go well w/ my other stuff so i bought this:

http://www.matrixorbital.com/product...character-lcds

i bought a DB9 male to DB9 male serial cable and connect them up that way. thought that would work but apparently not. i also messed around w/ the settings and theres really nothing i can activate, switch or whatever. i'm really pissed off right now cause i think its the screen itself. i don't understand why its not working, its 16x2 and has the serial port on the back...
Old Aug 5, 2008 | 05:24 PM
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ok, spoke w/ garrett and he was able to figure it out. i believe both devices, the lcd and suprastick are a host so they will both try to send data on the TX line. this results a problem since both devices are expecting to receive data on the RX line and neither device is sending data on the RX line. so basically i need a null modem adapter to correct this. the adapter will swap the TX and RX lines.
i found out the serial cable i have right now is a straight through design. so hopefully this should work

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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 06:25 PM
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ok, spoke w/ garrett and he was able to figure it out. i believe both devices, the lcd and suprastick are a host so they will both try to send data on the TX line. this results a problem since both devices are expecting to receive data on the RX line and neither device is sending data on the RX line. so basically i need a null modem adapter to correct this. the adapter will swap the TX and RX lines.
i found out the serial cable i have right now is a straight through design. so hopefully this should work
I should have thought of that. I have several devices that require a null modem cable I sometimes assume that everyone is familiar with the RX-TX. Still it should be in the manual and I looked and didn't see anything.
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I should have thought of that. I have several devices that require a null modem cable I sometimes assume that everyone is familiar with the RX-TX. Still it should be in the manual and I looked and didn't see anything.
yes, it should of been in the manual. well i forgot to mention, i took it for a test drive earlier and switched it to manual mode first. was pretty please with the results. found out you really have to push those cruise buttons firmly cause i bounced off the rev limiter for a good second b/c i didn't push the upshift hard enough.

one thing i found annoying though. whenever i downshifted, the rpms will either drop down or stay close to where its at, almost like as if you put it in neutral. wish it would activate like 4rth to 3rd using the O/D function.

for automatic mode, it was kinda weird maybe b/c i haven't really messed w/ the shifttables and automapping yet. i would come to a stop and it would stay in 4rth gear. jime, for the automapping, how long are you supose to drive around for the suprastick to learn your driving style? you would just let say map 1 be for normal/cruise then tweak the shift table, then map 2 would be for race mode and tweak the table again right? would it be a good idea just to do like a WOT run from 1st to 3rd or something for map 2?
Old Aug 6, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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yes, it should of been in the manual. well i forgot to mention, i took it for a test drive earlier and switched it to manual mode first. was pretty please with the results. found out you really have to push those cruise buttons firmly cause i bounced off the rev limiter for a good second b/c i didn't push the upshift hard enough.

one thing i found annoying though. whenever i downshifted, the rpms will either drop down or stay close to where its at, almost like as if you put it in neutral. wish it would activate like 4rth to 3rd using the O/D function.

for automatic mode, it was kinda weird maybe b/c i haven't really messed w/ the shifttables and automapping yet. i would come to a stop and it would stay in 4rth gear. jime, for the automapping, how long are you supose to drive around for the suprastick to learn your driving style? you would just let say map 1 be for normal/cruise then tweak the shift table, then map 2 would be for race mode and tweak the table again right? would it be a good idea just to do like a WOT run from 1st to 3rd or something for map 2?
I never used the automapping, my TCM is removed. I just used the shift tables that came with it and modified them to suit me. The Supra tables are a good starting point. I also use the same map for street and track. I only go WOT at the track so the 0-80% settings are good for the street and 90-100 for the track.

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Hey jime do you mind if you show a screen shot of your auto map, i wanna see what your setup looks like. im having problem in 1st gear, i think it might be my TPS or something, my throttle value on the ss4v is not stable, it flickers between numbers, so when im slowly cruising like say about 8mph, the car shifts between 1 and 2nd back and forward confusing the tranny. I was thinking to fix this, i can either figure out what makes the throttle value not stable at a set number, or i can set the 1>2 shift to be at a range of throttle positions instead of how i have it now, i think at like 5% i have 11mph to shift into 2nd, so when the value jumps around between 5% and something higher or lower it shifts randomly nonstop, im going to try making it so that it shifts at 11mph while in a range of throttle position between 1% and like 10% or something, so no matter wat the tps value is as long as its within that range it will shift into 2nd.
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^^^ i'm having some erratic issues as well. i haven't touched automapping nor the shift tables yet. didn't have time. but sometimes under 5-10% throttle, car would go from 1 to 3rd. other times, it does exactly what you described, it would flicker back between 1 and 2.

i'm going to play around with the tables maybe tomm to see if i can make some improvements.
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Well i seem to have fixed the problem. I increased the mph for when to shift into 2nd to about 12mph or so, i did this for throttle position 5% to 15%, so even if the tps is jumping around it will still shift at 12mph, before for example i had at 5% to shift at 9mph then at 15% to shift at 15 for example, so if tps jumps around, it will confuse the tranny. went for a short drive and it seems to be perfect now.
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Well i seem to have fixed the problem. I increased the mph for when to shift into 2nd to about 12mph or so, i did this for throttle position 5% to 15%, so even if the tps is jumping around it will still shift at 12mph, before for example i had at 5% to shift at 9mph then at 15% to shift at 15 for example, so if tps jumps around, it will confuse the tranny. went for a short drive and it seems to be perfect now.
hmm i might have to try that lol. you just saved me a little time.
have you messed around w/ the other table for WOT use?
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hmm i might have to try that lol. you just saved me a little time.
have you messed around w/ the other table for WOT use?
what other table? im using only one table right now for wot its shifting pretty close to the limiter, occationally when i have floored it, the 1-2 shift touches the limiter for a short instant. but either way i cant mess too much with WOT since my engine is dying so im just driving like an old lady till i change it.
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i was referring to map 2. i assumed you had map 1 for normal driving and map 2 for racing, WOT use.

so your just using 1 map for both driving styles?
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Glad to see you guys got it all figured without me, thats great.

I just use 1 map normally for street and racing. However this weekend I did set up the map 2 for 7k shifts and set the 3-4 shift way high (in all throttle settings) so that it stays in 3rd when I back off after finishing the 1/4 so it will help slow the car down.

Something else I just started doing is using only the e-brake to slow down to prevent the fronts from heating up the wheels/tires on the track when hot lapping.
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well i got the 5-15% TP done but what do you have for 90-100%? (Jime, streetz)
i think for 1>2 i have it set to 44 for 90-100% but thats apparently way too high cause i bounced off the rev limiter. i was thinking lowering it to say 40 to 42.


also, i don't know about you guys but whenever i go WOT in auto or manual mode,
theres a split sputter in the high band. have you guys experienced anything like this?
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well i got the 5-15% TP done but what do you have for 90-100%? (Jime, streetz)
i think for 1>2 i have it set to 44 for 90-100% but thats apparently way too high cause i bounced off the rev limiter. i was thinking lowering it to say 40 to 42.


also, i don't know about you guys but whenever i go WOT in auto or manual mode,
theres a split sputter in the high band. have you guys experienced anything like this?
I use 46 for 7k shifts and 43 for 6500. Yours is probably different though depending on your wheel dia, mine are 23".

Split sputter?? Not sure what you mean but i don't have any issues like that.
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I use 46 for 7k shifts and 43 for 6500. Yours is probably different though depending on your wheel dia, mine are 23".

Split sputter?? Not sure what you mean but i don't have any issues like that.
oh right, i forgot my car is nowhere near like yours. yeh i'm running 225/45/r17.
i guess i'll just play around with it again.

yeh, sometimes when i go WOT the rpms would climb up then hault for like a split second then continue to climb up again. really weird, dunno why it does that but oh well
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Anyone want a high stall TQ Ugh, i think ima get more money recycling it lol
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You gotta mess with the mph to get your shifting right, remember it depends on tire size, and alot of things, mine was shifting really early but i realized the tps was not set, make sure you have the throttle adjusted properly to it knows your at 100% throttle, iforgot what i had for 1/2 shift, gotta look at it n let u knw.

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Anyone want a high stall TQ Ugh, i think ima get more money recycling it lol
You still havent gotten rid of that thing? its been like 3 years lol. 200shipped and ill take it!! pm me
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You still havent gotten rid of that thing? its been like 3 years lol. 200 shipped and ill take it!! pm me
You would really dig on that Edge converter... They are stout - you know, I can use a spare, since I figure 400+ WHP is gonna blow up stuff... already have another VLSD automatic, but I intend to raise the bar again.... streetz, if you don't want to do a deal, Kevlo, PM me.




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