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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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vh45 in a 4th gen?

is that possible? with custom motor mounts it would fit inside the engine bay but the biggest (?) problem would be converting to rwd. has anyone ever tried a swap like that? i've found swapped 240's but they're already rwd and can't find any info.
Old Sep 24, 2008 | 05:31 PM
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it could be done you would need to cut back through the firewall and get the custom mounts convert it to rwd and put a whole new drivetrain in it would it be an auto or 5spd?
Old Sep 24, 2008 | 05:42 PM
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Where to start...simply put no unless you have alot of time and ALOT OF MONEY.

If you want v8 and RWD its much cheaper to sell the max and buy a car with that combo.

I can't even imagine the wiring mess with this.

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auto. could i swap in j30 front and rear axle setup? or would i have to go with a q45 rear axle due to gear ratios?
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1. No one has installed a VQ30 in a RWD configuration in a 4th gen, let alone a VH.

2. Anything is possible with enough money. Doesn't make much sense though.
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the car would sit at a shop and i'd do little by little because i know the costs would be substantial. the good thing is that my company shop has everything needed for any kind of fabrication and knowledgable guys...at least when it comes to suspension. i could get a differrent car for that money but if i did the swap...i'd be the only one
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well then be a pioneer and let us know and update us
Old Sep 24, 2008 | 07:15 PM
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there is a shop in FL that will do the swap, pretty sure if you ask around someone has the name and #
Old Sep 24, 2008 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by t6378tp
there is a shop in FL that will do the swap, pretty sure if you ask around someone has the name and #


eh in Tampa ? the same shop they put a VQ30DE in a U13

same shop that put a SR20DET in a U13 ?
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Just put a Ls1 in, it'll prolly be cheaper.
Old Sep 24, 2008 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by nismology
1. No one has installed a VQ30 in a RWD configuration in a 4th gen, let alone a VH.

2. Anything is possible with enough money. Doesn't make much sense though.

Onto a serious note, was the VQ30DET that was swapped into the 4th gen from a rwd application? Not trying to prove you wrong, but dont want to spread any mis-information.
Old Sep 24, 2008 | 08:48 PM
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Onto a serious note, was the VQ30DET that was swapped into the 4th gen from a rwd application? Not trying to prove you wrong, but dont want to spread any mis-information.
I'm still not wrong. I knew about that BTW...


It's substantially easier to retro a RWD VQ and still keep the car FWD than it is to take a RWD VQ (or VH) and actually convert the car to RWD. No has done the latter, VQ or otherwise.
Old Sep 24, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by nismology
I'm still not wrong. I knew about that BTW...


It's substantially easier to retro a RWD VQ and still keep the car FWD than it is to take a RWD VQ (or VH) and actually convert the car to RWD. No has done the latter, VQ or otherwise.
I see what you did there... continue on with the topic lol
Old Sep 25, 2008 | 07:07 AM
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Off the top of my head you will need...

Fabricate new front suspension, the current one will not work for a RWD car.
Fabricate a subframe to mount the engine to, as well as support the new front suspension
Steering, You will also need to fabricate a new steering rack, as the current position will prevent any rwd engine setup from being installed
Provide enough clearance to mount the new engine
Find some way to route the exhaust, since the exhaust tunnel will be filled with a driveshaft
Fabricate a new rear suspension
Fabricate a rear subframe to hold and support a rear differential
Have custom axle shafts made, unless you can find a diff/axle/hub setup that will fit correctly under the rear of the max, and work with your custom suspension
Chassis bracing - The maxima was not designed to handle the torque on the rear of the chassis, you will need to brace as required to prevent the rear from tearing itself apart
New driveshaft - You will have to determine the proper length and pinion angle, you will need to have the rear diff or axle housing offset properly, as well as the engine, otherwise your driveshaft will vibrate and/or tear itself out or the U-joints will fail prematurely. Driveshaft will have to be custom made.
Wiring, must find a way to integrate the V8 wiring into the car, your also going to have to find a way of reading a new speedo and tach signal
Transmission - You will need to find a transmission that will fit in the tunnel space, which was never designed to hold a transmission. You will also need to align everything so that the shifter will come out at the proper point, unless you plan on going automatic, which will be an even larger transmission, along with additional wiring. You will also need to find a way of supporting the rear of the transmission, as nothing under the car is provided, other than the thin sheetmetal of the floor.


Needless to say, this has FAIL written all over it. Thread closed. To the OP: PM me a convincing argument of why it should be re-opened and I will do so, but I see no reason so far why this thread should continue, especially not in the Advanced section.
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