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Old 11-19-2008, 11:26 PM
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High compression/cammed VQ35- Spec V swap..

I'm currently putting together a setup for a Spec V swap.. consisting of..

VQ35DE block
VQ35DE ported heads
VQ35HR pistons (fly cut to clear heads, and yields 11.5:1 C/R)
JWT C8 camshafts (272*/12mm lift.. 235* @ .050")
2002 Altima ECU/harness with CVTC/VIAS
Technosquare reflash for current mods and 7500rpm rev limiter
VQ35HR oil pump
Stock FWD aluminum manifold (for now)
Catman headers/y-pipe (modified for Spec V swap)
2.5" exhaust
QTP electronic cutout
3" Intake with POP charger
JWT clutch/flywheel (6spd trans)

The heads have been cleaned up, with most of the work going into the short side radius, to improve the transition coming into the chamber.. as well as some moderate bowl work, and slight port enlargement/reshaping. Nothing crazy, but, I expect modest gains.

Anyone want to take a guess at what kind of power we're going to make?

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330-350ish ? Good luck with the build
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I'd guess about 290-315 whp at this point... I think you'd see alot of gains changing out the 2.5" exhaust for a 3" and SSIMing that FWD IM. Similar mods on a 350z (with a true dual and revup IM) made 320 whp.
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I guesstimate you're going to make a "crap load" of power. Yes, that's an educated guess.
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I'm going to say 290-ish. Only because of the stock IM and unmodified cam timing maps (unless you got TS to change it for you). Sounds pretty good so far. Which valve springs will you be using?
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Agreed with nismology on the two points he made, however I would say you hit closer to 300. Very interested to see how it turns out though.
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Originally Posted by nismology
I'm going to say 290-ish. Only because of the stock IM and unmodified cam timing maps (unless you got TS to change it for you). Sounds pretty good so far. Which valve springs will you be using?

Yea, I'd like to know about the springs. I'm assuming HR/JWT double shimmed? I'm getting the HR double shimmed in my car now, and dont plan on reving past 7200.
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At the wheels i say around 290. impressive build though i bet that thing will be a BLAST to drive.
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Hell, they're a blast to drive at 235whp, with just bolt-on's.. This one is going to be nutty..

I'm using JWT's single spring.. Not sure of the seat pressure, but, it has a larger shim than stock, and Clark informed me that it would be good for 7500rpm with the C8 cams.

I think it'll be around 285whp, due to the stock manifold.. In about 2 months, we're going to be adding a sheetmetal manifold with velocity stacks, and a direct port setup..

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No v-manage? Or I guess TS could do it for you as well.


rednezz on my350z saw some significant gains up top with his tomei 272's by delaying the point at which the intake cams fully retard. The stock map retards them too soon when using long duration cams and dynamic compression is lost even at or slightly beyond the stock fuel cut. Dialing in some advance at higher revs can actually be beneficial in restoring it. Of course, as you know comparing two different sets of cams is an apples and oranges affair, but I still think tweaking the cam timing would be of benefit.


Also, YGPM.

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Hmm.. I'll have to look into the v-manage..
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When was it confirmed that an HR oil pump will fit in a DE? I haven't been around much lately...
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Originally Posted by DandyMax
When was it confirmed that an HR oil pump will fit in a DE? I haven't been around much lately...
Yea I glanced over briefly and figured he may be talking about the Revup. I just did another build using the revup, it'd be a shame if the HR bolts in and is more beneficial. Then again im only reving to ~7500.
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Sounds interesting.
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In for the HR oil pump consensus.
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Why bother speculating about the WHP? Put it together and install the damn thing, then come back with numbers.
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It was just something to read over while drinking your coffee in the morning.. It's coming together..

The engine will be in the car/running by Sunday..

Travis
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w00t!!!

I actually would like to see more info on this sheet metal IM with velocity stacks you speak of! If it proves gains over SSIM without too much loss at the bottom, I'd be all over it!
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I thought I had better pics of the cylinder heads all cleaned up, after the port work.. but, this is the best that I can find..



Also, the C8 cams came in yesterday..



The engine is 100% finished, and ready to go in.. I should have it running this weekend.. Stay tuned for video and dyno numbers/track times.

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cant wait to see the dyno and vids
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This might make me pull out my motor or get another one and build it up. Might be a stupid question but what is the stock C/R on our motors? 10.0:1?
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10.3:1 in a VQ35DE
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Originally Posted by 95BLKMAX
w00t!!!

I actually would like to see more info on this sheet metal IM with velocity stacks you speak of! If it proves gains over SSIM without too much loss at the bottom, I'd be all over it!
Give me about 3-4 weeks.. I'm working on the Autocad file right now.. It's not going to be cheap, though. I'm going to try to keep it around the price of a Kinetix manifold, but, no guarantees. However, it will be a well designed manifold, and won't just be a shiney piece of metal.

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It's 95% finished.. Just have to put the axles in tomorrow, strut bar, and brakes/wheels, plus fluids.. then she's ready to start.



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Originally Posted by TurboS13Hatch
It was just something to read over while drinking your coffee in the morning.. It's coming together..

The engine will be in the car/running by Sunday..

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Folgers & this thread FTW.
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im so in on this thread. def gonna subscribe. nice work Travis. For some reason i had an urge to read about and wanting to rebuild/build up a vq this weekend.. odd
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Well.. she's alive..

I've got about 100 miles on the clock, so far, and I dropped the break-in oil.. so, we're good to go.

My impression...

The C8 cams with JWT's shelf-stock springs.. perfect for power all the way out to 8K rpm. This car pulls HARD from 5K to the rev limiter of 8K.. Not much bottom end loss.. Noticeable, but, not dramatic. The idle is noticeable, but, not dramatic, and there's no stalling issues or anything funny that I've noticed so far.

I got in a quick race with my buddy this evening.. He has a '01 Lightning that runs consistent 12.50's @ 108-109mph. From a 10mph roll (1st gear), on street tires.. (Lightning is on Nitto drag radials), I spun 1st/2nd, but, kept him within 1 car's distance from me. From 3rd gear on up, I was ever so slowly pulling on him.. and by 110mph, my front bumper was even with his door. We shut it down and drove home.. I think the car will go 12.30's-12.40's on the 24.5x8" slicks, as it sits right now.. We'll find out Wednesday..

I'll have video up soon..

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Great to see this come along so quickly. Cant wait to see what the dyno's bring.
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i bet it sounds awesome at 8k...
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im more interested in the TQ this thing might make.
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Fire up video..

http://www.fi-r.net/images2/VQSwapFi...ryVQFireUp.wmv
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I like the music in the video, very very cool

If this thing doesn't make 300whp, I bet some people have some ideas to push you over that mark
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This may be a noobish question but where does it sit at idle, stockish or closer to 900 or so?

Congrats on excellent work! Makes me want to go out to the garage and work on my Nissan...after I get a better heater

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Originally Posted by DaveVQ
I like the music in the video, very very cool

If this thing doesn't make 300whp, I bet some people have some ideas to push you over that mark
Heh.. thanks.. My fav. band.

Here's a few highway pulls from earlier.. And, to top it off, this was with a dead/shorted knock sensor!

http://www.fi-r.net/images2/VQSwapFi...ghwayPulls.wmv

I pulled a knock sensor code when I got to Nissan after that video was shot..

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very nice travis. so your running the factory ecu with jus a reflash with this high compression engine? and all is good? i seriously i want to do this when its time to rebuild this sucker.
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Sweet run Travis!
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In for dyno #s :-D!!!!!!!

Awesome work Travis!
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Originally Posted by TurboS13Hatch
Heh.. thanks.. My fav. band.

Here's a few highway pulls from earlier.. And, to top it off, this was with a dead/shorted knock sensor!

http://www.fi-r.net/images2/VQSwapFi...ghwayPulls.wmv

I pulled a knock sensor code when I got to Nissan after that video was shot..

Travis
FIGHT THE TORQUE STEER LOL

Man that thing looks like fun
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