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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 05:45 PM
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NEW CAMS ?????

Okay. The engine has been rebuilt with high dome pistons bringing psi to 190-200. Headers, full exhaust. CAI. Underdrive pulley. Heads ported and polished with HD bolts and gaskets. So it's cam time. Now, Jim Wolf has some with .460 lift!!!!!! Too high. Then some with .430 which is still high but drivable. Two questions: any other cam dealers out there? And what is the lift on stock cams. Thanks.
Old Jan 30, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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Are you running a VQ35 or VQ30? You haven't filled in your information in your profile. This question would be best placed in AM, most of the regulars in the general forum aren't too keen on cams.
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Moved to All Motor. Some cam specs and discussion is here:

http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/5...me-decide.html
Old Jan 31, 2009 | 11:29 AM
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Thanks for the moving this thread. Some more info. The car is a 2003 6sd man with LSD. Short throw mod too. It's pretty hot right now (ask the gold max I toasted on the Taconic the other day) but misses below 1600 rpm. I know I need a remap for that, so I figured what the hell? Gotta be dynoed to be tuned might as well drop in some cams. It was mapped a few years ago by technosquare. Oh yeah, springs and struts drop it by 2 inches and tighten the ride along with anti-sway in the rear and strut brace in the front. Also sub-frame bushings and motor mounts from cattman kill that wheel hop.
Old Jan 31, 2009 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by knightmelodic
Thanks for the moving this thread. Some more info. The car is a 2003 6sd man with LSD. Short throw mod too. It's pretty hot right now (ask the gold max I toasted on the Taconic the other day) but misses below 1600 rpm. I know I need a remap for that, so I figured what the hell? Gotta be dynoed to be tuned might as well drop in some cams. It was mapped a few years ago by technosquare. Oh yeah, springs and struts drop it by 2 inches and tighten the ride along with anti-sway in the rear and strut brace in the front. Also sub-frame bushings and motor mounts from cattman kill that wheel hop.
Just throwing this out there, I hope you understand just how much labor goes into 'throwing in' a set of cams in the VQ. You just have boltons, so I don't know if you're aware of that or not.
Old Jan 31, 2009 | 03:00 PM
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Just throwing this out there, I hope you understand just how much labor goes into 'throwing in' a set of cams in the VQ. You just have boltons, so I don't know if you're aware of that or not.
Yep, I do. That's why I'll let my speed guys do it. Actually, the hardest part is getting the timing and cam chain cover off. They have dyno and ECM tuner to advance timing etc. Also, my engine was balanced during the rebuild so should be good to go. I'm just looking for something like .414 or so, so I'll have WHP increase from bottom to top.
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Cam lift itself means nothing without knowing what the other specs are.



And there are a handful of other manufacturers that produce cams for the VQ35. Tomei, JUN, Nismo, Brian Crower, HKS, and GT Motorsports come to mind.

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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 03:09 AM
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like what?

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Cam lift itself means nothing without knowing what the other specs are.



And there are a handful of other manufacturers that produce cams for the VQ35. Tomei, JUN, Nismo, Brian Crower, HKS, and GT Motorsports come to mind.

Wudduya need to know for cams? Comp is 10.7. Psi is 190-205. Lift and duration are what cams are all about.

Anyway thanx for the suggested sources. Those crowers look good. Anyone had experience with them?
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Originally Posted by knightmelodic
Wudduya need to know for cams? Comp is 10.7. Psi is 190-205. Lift and duration are what cams are all about.
FWIW, you mentioned lift but didn't say a thing about duration, and there's a bit more to cams than just those two.
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Originally Posted by pmohr
FWIW, you mentioned lift but didn't say a thing about duration, and there's a bit more to cams than just those two.
+1

Duration @ .050"/ramp rates and LSA are much more important than max lift or advertised duration. Area under the lift curve and valve event timing makes all the difference.
Old Feb 7, 2009 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by pmohr
FWIW, you mentioned lift but didn't say a thing about duration, and there's a bit more to cams than just those two.
True. But not really for PnP's.
Old Feb 7, 2009 | 12:31 PM
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yup +1

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+1

Duration @ .050"/ramp rates and LSA are much more important than max lift or advertised duration. Area under the lift curve and valve event timing makes all the difference.
Just had it dynoed and it's being strangled by the stock cams. Torque is a straight line. HP climbs and levels. It's very happy @ 6k+. But every pull you could tell the motor wanted to do more. So, I think I'll drop in the crower 2s and remap the ECM. With the other mods the tuner was talking possible 30 @ the wheels. We'll see.
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picture doesnt work for me curious what it is???
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Old Feb 16, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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picture doesnt work for me curious what it is???
Dyno sheet. Funny, it shows up on prview post, my post and your quote.
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For you. I DLed your file and am hosting it elsewhere.

t3h dyno

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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 04:56 PM
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For you. I DLed your file and am hosting it elsewhere.

t3h dyno
You are right my friend. Why I didn't use a photo host I don't know. But it's up now. Thanks for your help.
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 05:11 PM
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You are right my friend. Why I didn't use a photo host I don't know. But it's up now. Thanks for your help.
for all that motor work and ur only pushing 230 TTW's omg u need to slap whoever build that motor
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Jesus thats lean as hell!!!
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There are a few things that you can do for power without opening up the motor. You have definitely not maximized your current setup.
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thats very lean, even for a stock car! Was there a wideband or sniffer after the cat (if there is one). I would seriously hope so and your not running the car hard with ratios like that.
Old Feb 19, 2009 | 05:54 PM
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for all that motor work and ur only pushing 230 TTW's omg u need to slap whoever build that motor
LOL. No, the re-build is fine. I have 2% leakage on my vavles, which is sick. 190-195 psi in the cylinders. Balance is a dream. It's something else.

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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by nismology
There are a few things that you can do for power without opening up the motor. You have definitely not maximized your current setup.
Well, I'll be dropping some of those Brian Crower cams in and adding an Apexii 2. But before I do any of that, what would you suggest? BTW, the ECM goes back to TS with the dyno sheet next weekend.
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