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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 05:00 PM
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is this a Pulsar GTi-R that youve swap VQ too ?
Old Jun 19, 2009 | 08:59 PM
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Not this particular car. I have done a VQ swap into a GTiR though.

This engine is in a FWD N14 5 door hatch. Uses the same floorpan design as the B13 NX and Sentra.

Modifications are:
A32 Maxima front hubs, with Altima SE-R calipers and DBA 4000 series rotors
94 Maxima 5 stud rear hubs/calipers
Custom engine mounts
Custom radiator
BC Coilovers
Nissan Murano 18" x 7.5" wheels



This is the shape car it is

This is how tight the engine bay is...

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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 09:49 PM
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Cams will arrive early next week... I have witnessed dyno figures now on pump fuel from a NZ prepped 350Z track, lets just say my hopes have been surpassed. For my car, if the Nitto drag tyres hook up at the drag strip, it should see a low 11 second pass in the 120mph range.

Thinking about ordering Nismo VTC gears so I can get some of my idle back though and some ear muffs inside my race helmet for the expected intake roar(aka sonic boom!)

Also spoke to my Tomei sales guy, he can make a VQ35 specific ITB setup with an enclosed dual 3" entry path plenum so that I can use a MAF if required.

Jeff the Sales rep at Quartermaster is not replying to any of my emails, so I guess I will have to call him and confirm when my clutch will arrive!
Old Jun 30, 2009 | 11:31 PM
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Car is still at the workshop, waiting on the clutch and the camshafts. Kelford expect to deliver them in about a week, clutch is taking a little longer so far. The clutch is a bargain price compared to any other flywheel + clutch combo as well and the fact I get a superlight setup with a twin plate disc was the icing on the cake
Just further to this, for anyone fitting a VQ35... the 7.25" V Drive twin plate clutch kit I just sourced from Quartermaster(part number 298064ry) allows you to use a VQ30 flex plate + timing gear for staring the car. The V-Drive clutch and flywheel assembly bolt through the flex plate into the crank using normal VQ35 manual flywheel bolts. No huge cost of getting a VQ35 lightweight flywheel and strong clamping force clutch kit for $800+ when the Quartermaster unit is under $600 Confirm exact pricing with Quartermaster but I know I am impressed!

Total combined clutch + flywheel weight: Less than 12Lbs!! Most of that is centred closer to the crank as well.


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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 09:34 PM
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Do you have any pics of this setup? That's pretty interesting!
Old Jul 6, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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Waiting on Quartermaster's package to be delivered, taking its sweet *** time like most stuff I source internationally.
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great work man, keep us updated. and of course, pictures are a must here lol
Old Jul 31, 2009 | 10:37 PM
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One Twin Plate clutch...


Gearbox side view


The custom flywheel bolts to this face, flywheel bolts to the crank with the auto flex plate in the middle as a sort of big 'washer' which allows the starter motor to engage and Crank Ref signal to be attained.


Component form

More pics to come...
Old Aug 2, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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would that clutch fit on a 6 speed altima?
Old Aug 3, 2009 | 07:58 AM
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Need a suitable flex plate with a timing ring to suit the Altima ECU but yes, it would work in the 6 speed Altima. Thats the gearbox I am using
Old Aug 4, 2009 | 12:59 PM
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hey pretty new to this forum registered a while ago during my vq swap into my sentra and now that i have saved up some more $$$ i am going furhter into building it. I was wanting to know if the JWT c8 rev up cams will work in an 06 altima se-r engine. i am pretty sure they will.

My build details are JWT c8r cams jwt springs arp head studs and rod bolts. TechnoSquare redline raise up to 75-7700 (not sure yet) a 100 shot of nitrous installing wideband so as not to destroy my pride and joy. then hopefully gonna be making low 11second passes. If anybody has more knowledge on these cams let me know.

(posted it here because im too new to start my own thread...)
Old Aug 6, 2009 | 10:10 AM
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Rev up cams will not be ideal, there is no real point using them when JWT have cams to suit your engine already that are much better suited

Check the Cosworth Head Studs against the ARP ones as well and fit some Supertech Dual Valve springs
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Any word on the cams man?
Old Aug 9, 2009 | 02:41 AM
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Need the time to get the engine and gearbox back together now that the new clutch has arrived. Just ordered new tyres for it as well, so jealous of all you Max owners getting decent rubber on 18" wheels. I am running 215/35R18's which last around 6000 miles

This weekend I will be in the workshop, will be cataloguing everything then
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Might look into their clutches, but which one would I use for a vq30/5speed setup?
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Originally Posted by throttlehappy46
Need the time to get the engine and gearbox back together now that the new clutch has arrived. Just ordered new tyres for it as well, so jealous of all you Max owners getting decent rubber on 18" wheels. I am running 215/35R18's which last around 6000 miles

This weekend I will be in the workshop, will be cataloguing everything then
Why cant you run better tires?
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Originally Posted by throttlehappy46
Just further to this, for anyone fitting a VQ35... the 7.25" V Drive twin plate clutch kit I just sourced from Quartermaster(part number 298064ry) allows you to use a VQ30 flex plate + timing gear for staring the car. The V-Drive clutch and flywheel assembly bolt through the flex plate into the crank using normal VQ35 manual flywheel bolts. No huge cost of getting a VQ35 lightweight flywheel and strong clamping force clutch kit for $800+ when the Quartermaster unit is under $600 Confirm exact pricing with Quartermaster but I know I am impressed!

Total combined clutch + flywheel weight: Less than 12Lbs!! Most of that is centred closer to the crank as well.

SHATTT , I should have read up on this before I made my purchase .. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Old Aug 10, 2009 | 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
Might look into their clutches, but which one would I use for a vq30/5speed setup?
The 5 speed and 6 speeds have the same input shaft spline and diameter, so they should be the same Use the VQ30 auto flex plate and the clutch, then your set

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Why cant you run better tires?
The car came from the factory with 14" rims, so even squeezing 18's in there is tough. I am using good tyres(Hankook K104 Ventus Sport and some Dunlop SP Sport Maxx) but traction is a bit of an issue.
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Originally Posted by throttlehappy46
The 5 speed and 6 speeds have the same input shaft spline and diameter, so they should be the same Use the VQ30 auto flex plate and the clutch, then your set
Nice, let me know how it drives with this super light combo
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good read.... cant wait for some numbers
Old Aug 23, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by throttlehappy46
Need a suitable flex plate with a timing ring to suit the Altima ECU but yes, it would work in the 6 speed Altima. Thats the gearbox I am using
what flex plate should i use? the stock one? what flex plate are you using?
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If more people used 00VI's w/ their 3.5's we wouldn't need such monstrous and uncivilized cams for serious top-end powah.

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Originally Posted by nismology
If more people used 00VI's w/ their 3.5's we wouldn't need such monstrous and uncivilized cams for serious top-end powah.





Tis why I am keeping teh 00VI manifold. Though, it might have a few changes...
Old Aug 24, 2009 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by throttlehappy46
The 5 speed and 6 speeds have the same input shaft spline and diameter, so they should be the same Use the VQ30 auto flex plate and the clutch, then your set
What flywheel setup will you be using? Does Quarter Master make a button flywheel that will bolt to the VQ crank?
Old Sep 1, 2009 | 06:19 AM
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As for tyres:


Originally Posted by tuko316
what flex plate should i use? the stock one? what flex plate are you using?
I am using a VQ30 flexplate and timing gear as I am using a chipped VQ30 ECU with my swap.

For yours, I would assume that a VQ35 Altima auto flex plate would work.

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What flywheel setup will you be using? Does Quarter Master make a button flywheel that will bolt to the VQ crank?
Quartermaster will have some revised CAD drawings next week to make it a easy kit. They have only ever done SR and KA engine clutch kits, this was their first VQ kit and I am helping them with the final development

I have a VQ30 and VQ35 auto flex plate profiled in CAD, which should allow Quartermaster to make an entire flexplate and flywheel as a complete single unit in the future, then would just need the timing gear attached.

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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by nismology
If more people used 00VI's w/ their 3.5's we wouldn't need such monstrous and uncivilized cams for serious top-end powah.

The word uncivilized does not appear to be in the Kelford dictionary Monstrous certainly is though...

Power graph has a reasonably smooth incline from 2000rpm to 5500 before it goes crazy to the current 8200rpm rev cut. The tune does need some adjustment as it is still on the run in tune which is best described as adequate for the task.
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Hey what did ya end up using for fuel management?
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Originally Posted by TurboS13Hatch
No need to go that big for a street car.. We're making 300whp, N/A, with JWT's C8 cam profile, an a mildly build, stock bore/stroke VQ35.

Travis
Ever got this car strapped to a dyno?
Old Sep 18, 2009 | 02:20 AM
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I am confident that 110Hp per litre at the wheels is achievable on pump fuel and more if I can get enough E85 flowing through the current injectors. Thinking 4 bar rail pressure is the only solution and the better fuel atomisation shuld make the E85 respond better as well.

Originally Posted by Kgkeen101
Hey what did ya end up using for fuel management?
Nissan 95 Maxima ECU with a daughterboard. That way, I can tune it myself Have a PLX wideband already from my wrecked car, so makes it simple

The engine back when it was a stocker when it arrived via UPS air freight last year.



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How is this coming along? My build should be getting tuned sometime this weekend if all goes well. I'm eager to see your results and share mine as well.
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Had absolutely no time to work on the car recently due to a few big projects at work(I am in the Industrial Fork Lift / Pallet Racking industry)

I believe the workshop(my brother owns it) is ready for the engine to go back in after running the engine in on the dyno. Hopefully make some progress this week now things have died down a bit at work.

I am also eager to get some firm results and share. Also looking forward to some track day outings in November

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why are you covering the trans and axle holes with a newspaper?
Old Oct 2, 2009 | 01:21 AM
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why are you covering the trans and axle holes with a newspaper?
I wasn't, I used it to show that it was actually my engine(and not a random pic off the net) Since the 6 speed is non-existant in Australia, it easily 'fixes' that issue since that is our local newspaper
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Its in... well not completely but you get the idea lol

Detailed pics to come this weekend once I get home and have time to play
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Originally Posted by throttlehappy46
I wasn't, I used it to show that it was actually my engine(and not a random pic off the net) Since the 6 speed is non-existant in Australia, it easily 'fixes' that issue since that is our local newspaper
hahaha. It looked like you had some super secret trans that you didn't want anyone to see...
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Spaghetti wires = fun

Also, what's up with the daughter board? Send more over here?
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Im eagerly awaiting.
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
Spaghetti wires = fun

Also, what's up with the daughter board? Send more over here?
I am finally getting home this weekend, stop in at the post office then and send it back. Sorry for the delay but work has just gone crazy lately! Atleast UPS and US Customs Service have no reasons to complain now!!

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Im eagerly awaiting.
Me too... I think youtube videos of cam idle will cause a lot of drooling as well once the car is ready to start
Old Oct 8, 2009 | 02:18 AM
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A great read man. That Quartermaster find is a nice find. Would there be flex plate adaption for us 5.5gen 6MTers? This might be a possible investment option...<12lbs Flywheel/clutch combo is quite impressive.

Originally Posted by throttlehappy46
(I am in the Industrial Fork Lift / Pallet Racking industry)
Haha, do explain?

EDIT: n/m. I thought you said "Racing industry"...that was going to serve as a GOOD discussion topic, haha. It's late.
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Currently waiting on a new flywheel design due to a spline engagement issue(gearbox side disc was hard up on the spline when clutch was fully depressed). Purely my fault but thankfully it should be sorted asap.



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