need help with amp/sub
#1
need help with amp/sub
I have a Knewood 729 s
- Maximum Output Power: 600 Watts
- Power Output at 2 Ohms, at 14.4V (1kHz, 0.8% THD): 150 Watts x 2
- Power Output at 4 Ohms, at 14.4V (20Hz-20kHz, 0.08% THD): 100 Watts x 2
http://www.kenwoodusa.com/product/pr...&productId=713
and 1 Rockford ZFosgate RFD1210
- Impedance: 4 Ohm DVC
- Power Handling MAX: 1000 watts
- Power Handling RMS: 500 watts
- Sensitivity: 85dB
I have it in a sealed enclosure and I am running each voice coil to a seperate channel on the amp (one vc to left one to right).
My problem is that it just doenst sound that loud. THeres no distortion but i had 2 ****ty *** 8 inch pyle subs hooke dup to the same amp and it was loud as hell.
Can anyone help me out, suggestions without tellng me to get another sub or a new amp.
Thanks.
- Maximum Output Power: 600 Watts
- Power Output at 2 Ohms, at 14.4V (1kHz, 0.8% THD): 150 Watts x 2
- Power Output at 4 Ohms, at 14.4V (20Hz-20kHz, 0.08% THD): 100 Watts x 2
http://www.kenwoodusa.com/product/pr...&productId=713
and 1 Rockford ZFosgate RFD1210
- Impedance: 4 Ohm DVC
- Power Handling MAX: 1000 watts
- Power Handling RMS: 500 watts
- Sensitivity: 85dB
I have it in a sealed enclosure and I am running each voice coil to a seperate channel on the amp (one vc to left one to right).
My problem is that it just doenst sound that loud. THeres no distortion but i had 2 ****ty *** 8 inch pyle subs hooke dup to the same amp and it was loud as hell.
Can anyone help me out, suggestions without tellng me to get another sub or a new amp.
Thanks.
#4
That amp is a little under spec for the sub. It puts out 300w rms bridged, where the sub recommended takes 500W rms. And that's a max of 300W rms @ 14.4v. I think I'd look to get another amp that puts out a little more juice.
I couldn't find the RFD1210 on Rockford's site. But the 2110 with the same power handling is a dual 2 ohm VC sub. I'm thinking yours is dual 2s. If so, I'd definitely wire the voice coils in a series to achieve a 4ohm load, and wire + / - to the amp in such a way that it's running bridged @ 4 ohms. This is the way to achieve the 300W rms rating. Right now, the amp is running in 2-channel mode, which isn't how the sub should be wired up.
I couldn't find the RFD1210 on Rockford's site. But the 2110 with the same power handling is a dual 2 ohm VC sub. I'm thinking yours is dual 2s. If so, I'd definitely wire the voice coils in a series to achieve a 4ohm load, and wire + / - to the amp in such a way that it's running bridged @ 4 ohms. This is the way to achieve the 300W rms rating. Right now, the amp is running in 2-channel mode, which isn't how the sub should be wired up.
#5
It's a dual 4 ohm
Originally posted by blizz20oma
That amp is a little under spec for the sub. It puts out 300w rms bridged, where the sub recommended takes 500W rms. And that's a max of 300W rms @ 14.4v. I think I'd look to get another amp that puts out a little more juice.
I couldn't find the RFD1210 on Rockford's site. But the 2110 with the same power handling is a dual 2 ohm VC sub. I'm thinking yours is dual 2s. If so, I'd definitely wire the voice coils in a series to achieve a 4ohm load, and wire + / - to the amp in such a way that it's running bridged @ 4 ohms. This is the way to achieve the 300W rms rating. Right now, the amp is running in 2-channel mode, which isn't how the sub should be wired up.
That amp is a little under spec for the sub. It puts out 300w rms bridged, where the sub recommended takes 500W rms. And that's a max of 300W rms @ 14.4v. I think I'd look to get another amp that puts out a little more juice.
I couldn't find the RFD1210 on Rockford's site. But the 2110 with the same power handling is a dual 2 ohm VC sub. I'm thinking yours is dual 2s. If so, I'd definitely wire the voice coils in a series to achieve a 4ohm load, and wire + / - to the amp in such a way that it's running bridged @ 4 ohms. This is the way to achieve the 300W rms rating. Right now, the amp is running in 2-channel mode, which isn't how the sub should be wired up.
#6
Hmm, then you might want to wire the coils in parallel for a 2 ohm load.
The amp specs say it's stable at 2 ohms, but it doesn't come out and say what impedance the bridged mode runs at. So I can't say for sure. I searched on the web for that amp and in one place it said the bridged mode was 300x1 @ 4 ohms. I can't recommend that you wire it the way above until you find out for sure it bridges @ 2 ohms or not.
Maybe someone else can pick up where I'm leaving off.
The amp specs say it's stable at 2 ohms, but it doesn't come out and say what impedance the bridged mode runs at. So I can't say for sure. I searched on the web for that amp and in one place it said the bridged mode was 300x1 @ 4 ohms. I can't recommend that you wire it the way above until you find out for sure it bridges @ 2 ohms or not.
Maybe someone else can pick up where I'm leaving off.
#8
Like I said, I can't elaborate any further on the above...
...but I can tell you the quick way to fix your problems (provided the sub is still in good-working condition)...
...buy a new amp that puts out ~500W rms @ 2 ohms
...but I can tell you the quick way to fix your problems (provided the sub is still in good-working condition)...
...buy a new amp that puts out ~500W rms @ 2 ohms
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Re: need help with amp/sub
Originally posted by Phynias
I have a Knewood 729 s
- Maximum Output Power: 600 Watts
- Power Output at 2 Ohms, at 14.4V (1kHz, 0.8% THD): 150 Watts x 2
- Power Output at 4 Ohms, at 14.4V (20Hz-20kHz, 0.08% THD): 100 Watts x 2
http://www.kenwoodusa.com/product/pr...&productId=713
and 1 Rockford ZFosgate RFD1210
- Impedance: 4 Ohm DVC
- Power Handling MAX: 1000 watts
- Power Handling RMS: 500 watts
- Sensitivity: 85dB
I have it in a sealed enclosure and I am running each voice coil to a seperate channel on the amp (one vc to left one to right).
My problem is that it just doenst sound that loud. THeres no distortion but i had 2 ****ty *** 8 inch pyle subs hooke dup to the same amp and it was loud as hell.
Can anyone help me out, suggestions without tellng me to get another sub or a new amp.
Thanks.
I have a Knewood 729 s
- Maximum Output Power: 600 Watts
- Power Output at 2 Ohms, at 14.4V (1kHz, 0.8% THD): 150 Watts x 2
- Power Output at 4 Ohms, at 14.4V (20Hz-20kHz, 0.08% THD): 100 Watts x 2
http://www.kenwoodusa.com/product/pr...&productId=713
and 1 Rockford ZFosgate RFD1210
- Impedance: 4 Ohm DVC
- Power Handling MAX: 1000 watts
- Power Handling RMS: 500 watts
- Sensitivity: 85dB
I have it in a sealed enclosure and I am running each voice coil to a seperate channel on the amp (one vc to left one to right).
My problem is that it just doenst sound that loud. THeres no distortion but i had 2 ****ty *** 8 inch pyle subs hooke dup to the same amp and it was loud as hell.
Can anyone help me out, suggestions without tellng me to get another sub or a new amp.
Thanks.
Many amps are 2 Ohm stable, but only in stereo NOT in Mono.
--Don
#10
I just exchanged my kenwood 829 in today for the JL 250/1. I can't believe the difference in sound quality. I thought the Kenwood sounded just a tad muddy, but the JL Audio 250/1 sub amp is just an amazing little amp. It's driving a single 12w3. I probably should've gotten the 500/1, but the 250/1 is just fine.
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