If you could have one 12" sub up to $400 what would it be
09-18-2002, 09:45 PM
#41
I have a Q for you out there. My set up includes Pioneer H/U with 4v preamp outputs, and rather inexpensive but trustworthy (over a year in use) 2-channel amp, rated at 500w max and 200-250 rms. This amp drove my 2x10 MTX in bandpass enclosure so good that I had to turn all the setting down, I just couldn't handle it. Now I'm about to sell my subs (if the buyer wont f**k me up) and looking for inexpensive substitute, either new or used. Would like to get a nice 1x12" and build a sealed enclosure for it. My budget is modest at $150 tops. Any recommendations? Dont care about looks but the sound quality. Used is OK.
09-18-2002, 10:59 PM
#42
Originally posted by Gates
I had a very bad experience as a customer with ampmanaudio. I ordered a 12" Brahma and at the time it was showing on the website as in stock & shipping. After being told time & time again that the sub would ship very soon I requested that he refund the money to my credit card until the sub actually shipped (I was charged immediately.) He said okay and that he would just charge my card again when the sub came back in stock. I recieved the refund but I guess he forgot about my order. Honestly I'll never deal with ampman again after being lied to several times about my order status. I did find the he was very nice but he would always tell me he would either get back to me or the sub will ship next week and I wouldn't hear anything from him.
I had a very bad experience as a customer with ampmanaudio. I ordered a 12" Brahma and at the time it was showing on the website as in stock & shipping. After being told time & time again that the sub would ship very soon I requested that he refund the money to my credit card until the sub actually shipped (I was charged immediately.) He said okay and that he would just charge my card again when the sub came back in stock. I recieved the refund but I guess he forgot about my order. Honestly I'll never deal with ampman again after being lied to several times about my order status. I did find the he was very nice but he would always tell me he would either get back to me or the sub will ship next week and I wouldn't hear anything from him.
09-18-2002, 11:11 PM
#43
Yeah, I understood that they were backordered, but the fact that he told me that he would check on my order status and never e-mailed or called me back really ****ed me off. He did this 3 or 4 times, not just once. All he had to say was that they were backordered and tell me when he expected my sub to ship.
Originally posted by skeelo34
I had a similar experience. I ordered a brax x2000 amp from him and had it chrome plated. Well, it took two months to get here, few exra weeks b/c of the chrom plating, but thats understandable, the amp came straight from germany. Oh well, never had another problem with them. Brahmas were out of stock for a while like shivas, but thats due to such high demand for these awesome speakers.
I had a similar experience. I ordered a brax x2000 amp from him and had it chrome plated. Well, it took two months to get here, few exra weeks b/c of the chrom plating, but thats understandable, the amp came straight from germany. Oh well, never had another problem with them. Brahmas were out of stock for a while like shivas, but thats due to such high demand for these awesome speakers.
09-19-2002, 06:28 AM
#45
Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
My budget is modest at $150 tops. Any recommendations? Dont care about looks but the sound quality. Used is OK.
My budget is modest at $150 tops. Any recommendations? Dont care about looks but the sound quality. Used is OK.
09-19-2002, 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
I have a Q for you out there. My set up includes Pioneer H/U with 4v preamp outputs, and rather inexpensive but trustworthy (over a year in use) 2-channel amp, rated at 500w max and 200-250 rms. This amp drove my 2x10 MTX in bandpass enclosure so good that I had to turn all the setting down, I just couldn't handle it. Now I'm about to sell my subs (if the buyer wont f**k me up) and looking for inexpensive substitute, either new or used. Would like to get a nice 1x12" and build a sealed enclosure for it. My budget is modest at $150 tops. Any recommendations? Dont care about looks but the sound quality. Used is OK.
I have a Q for you out there. My set up includes Pioneer H/U with 4v preamp outputs, and rather inexpensive but trustworthy (over a year in use) 2-channel amp, rated at 500w max and 200-250 rms. This amp drove my 2x10 MTX in bandpass enclosure so good that I had to turn all the setting down, I just couldn't handle it. Now I'm about to sell my subs (if the buyer wont f**k me up) and looking for inexpensive substitute, either new or used. Would like to get a nice 1x12" and build a sealed enclosure for it. My budget is modest at $150 tops. Any recommendations? Dont care about looks but the sound quality. Used is OK.
Eric
09-19-2002, 02:38 PM
#47
Originally posted by nismo240sx
If you need a 12", the Adire Shiva is world-class too. They aren't beautiful by any strech of the word, but they do what they're built to do...go low and be clean. The Tempests are also capable of TONS of output. Eric
If you need a 12", the Adire Shiva is world-class too. They aren't beautiful by any strech of the word, but they do what they're built to do...go low and be clean. The Tempests are also capable of TONS of output. Eric
Maksim and Nismo240sx, thanks for the input. I am staying with my current amplifier (which does not provide a lot of power) and my concern is not to underpower the subwoofer or it will blow.
Reading my amps manual it says max @2ohm 250x2=500w max. Power Output @2ohm (is it rms?) 85x2=170w, @ 4ohm 60x2-120w. I have the reason to believe it is way underrated because it pushed my two 10" MTX w/ no probs.
What about 2 Ohm and 4ohm, its not like there is a switch for either one. What kind of sub would work best with my amp?
09-19-2002, 07:34 PM
#49
Originally posted by DJSCIASCIA
All of you guys failed to mentioned Digital Designs 9512....I'm surprised at all of you!!! It will give the brahma a run for its money if not taking it in spl & sq in the right box...
All of you guys failed to mentioned Digital Designs 9512....I'm surprised at all of you!!! It will give the brahma a run for its money if not taking it in spl & sq in the right box...
09-19-2002, 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
where do you guys learn about these brand, brahma, etc? These are not on the display at regular stores.
where do you guys learn about these brand, brahma, etc? These are not on the display at regular stores.
I'm on the audio boards almost constantly...
Eric
09-19-2002, 07:47 PM
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Originally posted by DJSCIASCIA
All of you guys failed to mentioned Digital Designs 9512....I'm surprised at all of you!!! It will give the brahma a run for its money if not taking it in spl & sq in the right box...
All of you guys failed to mentioned Digital Designs 9512....I'm surprised at all of you!!! It will give the brahma a run for its money if not taking it in spl & sq in the right box...
Eric
09-19-2002, 08:53 PM
#53
Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
Reading my amps manual it says max @2ohm 250x2=500w max. Power Output @2ohm (is it rms?) 85x2=170w, @ 4ohm 60x2-120w. I have the reason to believe it is way underrated because it pushed my two 10" MTX w/ no probs.
What about 2 Ohm and 4ohm, its not like there is a switch for either one. What kind of sub would work best with my amp?
Reading my amps manual it says max @2ohm 250x2=500w max. Power Output @2ohm (is it rms?) 85x2=170w, @ 4ohm 60x2-120w. I have the reason to believe it is way underrated because it pushed my two 10" MTX w/ no probs.
What about 2 Ohm and 4ohm, its not like there is a switch for either one. What kind of sub would work best with my amp?
Now if you going to run only one sub the (x2) rating doesn mean much 'cos you'll need to drive it mono (even if it is dual voice coil) you need to figure out if your amp is bridgeable(i.e you can join to channels into one mono channel) and what is the lowest impedance(ohms) at which it is stable (it would be given something like "160x1@4ohms bridged "). From there on you'll know what impedance to look in a sub if you can do x1@4ohm you can get a singe voice coile sub(SVC) with imedance of 4 ohm or DVC sub with 2 2ohm coils (or 2 8ohm coils if such a thing exists. Or if the sub can do x1@2ohms you can get a DVC sub with 4 ohm coils.
BTW if you give us the brand and model of the amp we might be able to look it up(of course after grilling you on poor taste in amps
)
09-20-2002, 10:40 AM
#54
Originally posted by Maksim2000
BTW if you give us the brand and model of the amp we might be able to look it up(of course after grilling you on poor taste in amps )
BTW if you give us the brand and model of the amp we might be able to look it up(of course after grilling you on poor taste in amps
)
09-20-2002, 11:38 AM
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Re: If you could have one 12" sub up to $400 what would it be
Get the JL W7. End of story. Most bass for your buck. It hardly needs any air-space either. it will handle like 1500 watts or some bs but i installed one in a cheesy$50 box with 700 rms and that thing hit like no other.
09-20-2002, 11:52 AM
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Re: Re: If you could have one 12" sub up to $400 what would it be
Originally posted by ocMax
Get the JL W7. End of story. Most bass for your buck. It hardly needs any air-space either. it will handle like 1500 watts or some bs but i installed one in a cheesy$50 box with 700 rms and that thing hit like no other.
Get the JL W7. End of story. Most bass for your buck. It hardly needs any air-space either. it will handle like 1500 watts or some bs but i installed one in a cheesy$50 box with 700 rms and that thing hit like no other.
Eric
09-20-2002, 12:07 PM
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Re: Re: Re: If you could have one 12" sub up to $400 what would it be
Originally posted by nismo240sx
Umm...yeah. The 12w7 is 750 bux. Also, have you ever actually figured up what the optimum boxes are for the w7's?
Eric
Umm...yeah. The 12w7 is 750 bux. Also, have you ever actually figured up what the optimum boxes are for the w7's?
Eric
Actually the W7 is more like 500 or cheaper if you shop around. And YES i have looked for the best box size and YES it would be better with more space. All i was saying is its not one of those subs that needs big space to make big sound.
09-20-2002, 02:48 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: If you could have one 12" sub up to $400 what would it be
Originally posted by ocMax
Actually the W7 is more like 500 or cheaper if you shop around. And YES i have looked for the best box size and YES it would be better with more space. All i was saying is its not one of those subs that needs big space to make big sound.
Actually the W7 is more like 500 or cheaper if you shop around. And YES i have looked for the best box size and YES it would be better with more space. All i was saying is its not one of those subs that needs big space to make big sound.
09-20-2002, 03:16 PM
#59
oh stop the cat fight will ya? I need a sub that is prices within my budget (150 bux, not 400, and not 750) and can be safely hooked up to my amp-I posted the technical data above. My conern is that most subs are made for higher power than what my amp provides, and as we all know, underpowering causes the sub to blow.
09-20-2002, 04:01 PM
#61
Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
its a Wolfenhug ZX400..I think it is bridgeable. ..
its a Wolfenhug ZX400..I think it is bridgeable. ..
It's Volfenhag btw...
AIs it anything like this one : http://app.infopia.com/Shop/Control/...224/scat/15462
09-20-2002, 04:29 PM
#62
Originally posted by Maksim2000
you go hug a wolf
It's Volfenhag btw...
AIs it anything like this one : http://app.infopia.com/Shop/Control/...224/scat/15462
you go hug a wolf
It's Volfenhag btw...
AIs it anything like this one : http://app.infopia.com/Shop/Control/...224/scat/15462
should be able to push something like:
Phoenix Gold QX12(4 ohm)(rec 150w) (nice cheap sub)
Phoenix Gold Tantrum 12(4ohm) (rec 300watts) (nicer sub)
possibbly ID IDQ12 D.2 V2 (rec 350watts) (even nicer but pushing it as far as amout of power)
Alpine type R SWR-1221D
Kicker C12vr (iffy)
...
I had really good experience with Phoenix Gold subs so take a look at those. Everybody loves my IDQ V2 though...
10-11-2002, 01:05 PM
#63
DD9512, there is a guy that Hit 156.2 db with a single 12 in an extented cab S10. I'm going with a Tempest, but if i had to pick a 12 it would be one of the following:
Shocker Extreme III
Resonant XXX
Beyond Audio Inhuman
IDMAX
Shiva
Brahama (but their like *******s, everyone has one)
Elemental SP
As for the Kicker L7's, NOPE. I've been through 3 pairs and their Junk. they sound good till the tinsel leads snap or you pull the suspension through the spider.
Kevin.
Shocker Extreme III
Resonant XXX
Beyond Audio Inhuman
IDMAX
Shiva
Brahama (but their like *******s, everyone has one)
Elemental SP
As for the Kicker L7's, NOPE. I've been through 3 pairs and their Junk. they sound good till the tinsel leads snap or you pull the suspension through the spider.
Kevin.
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