Best sub under $200?
02-13-2003, 03:15 PM
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Best sub under $200?
I was thinking of upgrading my subwoofer from a 10" to a 12". I was wondering, what would be the best deal for under 200 dollars? Im not worried about the amp yet, nor am I worried about the box. Im gonna make a custom box when I get the sub. And the amp, my dad is probably going to buy for me. Any suggestions? Thanks.
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02-16-2003, 10:38 AM
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2 10's will definately give more base, but I like my single 12 better. I was so against 12's for so long until I tried one in my car. Go to Don (Pearl96Max) for your audio stuff. Awesome prices and customer service.
02-16-2003, 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by Virus
2 10's will definately give more base, but I like my single 12 better. I was so against 12's for so long until I tried one in my car. Go to Don (Pearl96Max) for your audio stuff. Awesome prices and customer service.
2 10's will definately give more base, but I like my single 12 better. I was so against 12's for so long until I tried one in my car. Go to Don (Pearl96Max) for your audio stuff. Awesome prices and customer service.
--Don
02-16-2003, 11:33 AM
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exactly what kind of response are you looking for? how much power will you be feeding it? how much space are you willing to give up to the box? there are a ton of parameters when considering a sub...a lot of different classes out there.
02-17-2003, 09:58 AM
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MTX Thunder 6000 if you have a Circuit City in your city check and see if they have a special on them. I just bought 2 for less than $200 the deal is you buy one at regular price and get the other one for 75% off, but see if they would give you a package deal in which you pay $139 for one and $20 for the second one. Also they don't need a whole lot of power to make them sound good and they can be put in a small box.
02-17-2003, 03:28 PM
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I have a single DA M6D4 12" in a 1.0 ft^3 box in the trunk of my Maxima getting fed 600W RMS x 1 from a DA 1200.1 D5 amp.
I have NEVER heard anyone complain about the lack of any bass sound in my car
Not to mention to accuracy of this sub is unreal. Once again, go to Don for all your car audio needs. Damn man is snowed on and he can't work right now!
Mike
I have NEVER heard anyone complain about the lack of any bass sound in my car
Not to mention to accuracy of this sub is unreal. Once again, go to Don for all your car audio needs. Damn man is snowed on and he can't work right now!
Mike
02-19-2003, 04:22 AM
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Originally posted by maximafever
I wish I could go to Don for my car audio because there is very few good shops here in Reno, NV but since I do my own installation it makes up for the high install price.
I wish I could go to Don for my car audio because there is very few good shops here in Reno, NV but since I do my own installation it makes up for the high install price.
--Don
02-21-2003, 09:01 AM
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Adire audio Shiva. My Brother has 2 12's in his Supercoupe and they are bad.
i think their only like 125 a piece...not built cheap though
www.adireaudio.com
i think their only like 125 a piece...not built cheap though
www.adireaudio.com
02-21-2003, 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by lunchbox
Adire audio Shiva. My Brother has 2 12's in his Supercoupe and they are bad.
i think their only like 125 a piece...not built cheap though
www.adireaudio.com
Adire audio Shiva. My Brother has 2 12's in his Supercoupe and they are bad.
i think their only like 125 a piece...not built cheap though
www.adireaudio.com
02-21-2003, 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by Miasma
hell yeah. shiva KILLS W3 and everything else under $400 for the most part. another one to look at is the elemental designs stuff, supposed to be very good.
hell yeah. shiva KILLS W3 and everything else under $400 for the most part. another one to look at is the elemental designs stuff, supposed to be very good.
--Don
02-21-2003, 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by Pearl96Max
I would take my DA M6 12 over that
--Don
I would take my DA M6 12 over that
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02-21-2003, 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by Miasma
BWUHAHAHAH! I have heard those, and I bet you have not heard a shiva or elemental. And oh yeah, did I mention that i compete in 301-600W amateur IASCA sound quality competitions? I have never heard a judge give one complaint on the quality of the low end.
BWUHAHAHAH! I have heard those, and I bet you have not heard a shiva or elemental. And oh yeah, did I mention that i compete in 301-600W amateur IASCA sound quality competitions? I have never heard a judge give one complaint on the quality of the low end.
And this means what to me? First of all yes I have seen/heard/installed many of them, and I myself as well as the customers that have them will not compare them. Your amatuer competition status means absolutely nothing to me, Im guessing that my 15+ years of experience means nothing to you as well correct?--Don
02-21-2003, 06:04 PM
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Originally posted by Miasma
yes. it is a nice sub, but not in the same league, sorry.
yes. it is a nice sub, but not in the same league, sorry.
Second of all please inform me how a Shive is in a better league than a DA M6
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02-21-2003, 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by Pearl96Max
First of all my reply of "ya sure about that" was to your quote of "not for $125" So yes I can own one cheap
Second of all please inform me how a Shive is in a better league than a DA M6
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First of all my reply of "ya sure about that" was to your quote of "not for $125" So yes I can own one cheap
Second of all please inform me how a Shive is in a better league than a DA M6
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and if you think arguing that your sub is the greatest out there, even limiting a price range, then well, i guess we both are fools, since the sub is only as good as the installation, crossover, power, etc. i do not claim the shiva is better than anything else out there, but i do guarantee that you will not be at all dissapointed if you ever get the priveledge of hearing one.
02-21-2003, 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by Miasma
its not worth your time to argue about the quality of a sub you have not heard, i would think that with your '15 years of experience' you would know that. as such, i will not discuss the qualities of the SHIVA with you since it is a waste of my time until you hear one. and i do agree that your sub is good, no question, but for my purposes, it would not have been good enough, it was quick, but not as crisp as i wanted, and requires more EQing for the response i needed with my crossover type. for some installations, it could be ideal, i am all for cheap subs. i see no reason to pay $400+ for a sub unless all you care about is SPL, because, while there are some good high end SQL subs like the IDMax and W7, the sound quality of an IDQ is definitly comporable to those just with less volume. there is another great cheap sub though, the Image Dynamics IDQ.
and if you think arguing that your sub is the greatest out there, even limiting a price range, then well, i guess we both are fools, since the sub is only as good as the installation, crossover, power, etc. i do not claim the shiva is better than anything else out there, but i do guarantee that you will not be at all dissapointed if you ever get the priveledge of hearing one.
its not worth your time to argue about the quality of a sub you have not heard, i would think that with your '15 years of experience' you would know that. as such, i will not discuss the qualities of the SHIVA with you since it is a waste of my time until you hear one. and i do agree that your sub is good, no question, but for my purposes, it would not have been good enough, it was quick, but not as crisp as i wanted, and requires more EQing for the response i needed with my crossover type. for some installations, it could be ideal, i am all for cheap subs. i see no reason to pay $400+ for a sub unless all you care about is SPL, because, while there are some good high end SQL subs like the IDMax and W7, the sound quality of an IDQ is definitly comporable to those just with less volume. there is another great cheap sub though, the Image Dynamics IDQ.
and if you think arguing that your sub is the greatest out there, even limiting a price range, then well, i guess we both are fools, since the sub is only as good as the installation, crossover, power, etc. i do not claim the shiva is better than anything else out there, but i do guarantee that you will not be at all dissapointed if you ever get the priveledge of hearing one.
I have heard them !!!!!!!!!!! And no I dont claim my sub is the greastest or even close. And for the price I also replies that yes I can get MY sub for that price !!! If you would take a second to read my replies it would save us both alot of time.--Don
02-21-2003, 10:34 PM
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Originally posted by Pearl96Max
Do you read any of the replies that I send??? I have heard them !!!!!!!!!!! And no I dont claim my sub is the greastest or even close. And for the price I also replies that yes I can get MY sub for that price !!! If you would take a second to read my replies it would save us both alot of time.
--Don
Do you read any of the replies that I send???
I have heard them !!!!!!!!!!! And no I dont claim my sub is the greastest or even close. And for the price I also replies that yes I can get MY sub for that price !!! If you would take a second to read my replies it would save us both alot of time.--Don
02-22-2003, 03:57 AM
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Originally posted by Miasma
dude, i am not trying to start a fight with you, why are you so insistant on being rude? maybe if you would just respect what i have to say by reading it closely you would see that i do not say that YOU claim it is the greatest sub. and you are totally avoiding the point anyway.
dude, i am not trying to start a fight with you, why are you so insistant on being rude? maybe if you would just respect what i have to say by reading it closely you would see that i do not say that YOU claim it is the greatest sub. and you are totally avoiding the point anyway.
--Don
02-22-2003, 11:30 AM
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i got two shiva subs, for the price, its actually a great deal, 132 shipped after tax. Unfortunately, my first sub, the silver connect popped off but with my new subs i havent had problems. However, i put them to the test with a few cars. If i put the volume to a pretty good peak, the subs arent THAT accurate. They dont go great with the beat, they are only 350 watts vs. the one's don sell for same price and they are 500 watts. Plus shiva's are discontinued now and the upgrades are beacoup dollars.
125 for a 350 watt sub is a great price but the diamond audio sub that don sells is same price and 500 watts, looks A LOT better, diamond audio is clearer than shiva's, i would go with them, both are DEFINITELY stronger than W3's, do NOT go with those
125 for a 350 watt sub is a great price but the diamond audio sub that don sells is same price and 500 watts, looks A LOT better, diamond audio is clearer than shiva's, i would go with them, both are DEFINITELY stronger than W3's, do NOT go with those
02-22-2003, 09:50 PM
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I am a little confused here...you can get a DA M6 for $125? How much can you get a da macdaddy for?
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Originally posted by Pearl96Max
I was not trying to be rude. I have posted several times that I have heard them, and you insist that I need to hear them. Lets drop this now then please.
--Don
I was not trying to be rude. I have posted several times that I have heard them, and you insist that I need to hear them. Lets drop this now then please.
--Don
02-22-2003, 10:22 PM
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W3s are good subs, but once again for the money, there is better. A 12" W3 can take about 500-600 watts rms in the proper box all day. JL has a very conservative rating on their subs.
Originally posted by meccanoble
i got two shiva subs, for the price, its actually a great deal, 132 shipped after tax. Unfortunately, my first sub, the silver connect popped off but with my new subs i havent had problems. However, i put them to the test with a few cars. If i put the volume to a pretty good peak, the subs arent THAT accurate. They dont go great with the beat, they are only 350 watts vs. the one's don sell for same price and they are 500 watts. Plus shiva's are discontinued now and the upgrades are beacoup dollars.
125 for a 350 watt sub is a great price but the diamond audio sub that don sells is same price and 500 watts, looks A LOT better, diamond audio is clearer than shiva's, i would go with them, both are DEFINITELY stronger than W3's, do NOT go with those
i got two shiva subs, for the price, its actually a great deal, 132 shipped after tax. Unfortunately, my first sub, the silver connect popped off but with my new subs i havent had problems. However, i put them to the test with a few cars. If i put the volume to a pretty good peak, the subs arent THAT accurate. They dont go great with the beat, they are only 350 watts vs. the one's don sell for same price and they are 500 watts. Plus shiva's are discontinued now and the upgrades are beacoup dollars.
125 for a 350 watt sub is a great price but the diamond audio sub that don sells is same price and 500 watts, looks A LOT better, diamond audio is clearer than shiva's, i would go with them, both are DEFINITELY stronger than W3's, do NOT go with those
02-22-2003, 10:39 PM
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Originally posted by kingrukus
W3s are good subs, but once again for the money, there is better. A 12" W3 can take about 500-600 watts rms in the proper box all day. JL has a very conservative rating on their subs.
W3s are good subs, but once again for the money, there is better. A 12" W3 can take about 500-600 watts rms in the proper box all day. JL has a very conservative rating on their subs.
Originally posted by meccanoble
125 for a 350 watt sub is a great price but the diamond audio sub that don sells is same price and 500 watts
125 for a 350 watt sub is a great price but the diamond audio sub that don sells is same price and 500 watts
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02-23-2003, 12:10 AM
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Originally posted by kingrukus
I am a little confused here...you can get a DA M6 for $125? How much can you get a da macdaddy for?
Phil
I am a little confused here...you can get a DA M6 for $125? How much can you get a da macdaddy for?
Phil
He was referring to the CM3 for 125
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02-23-2003, 06:32 AM
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I was just showing that the w3 can run with some of those other choices in terms of power handling. Yes I realise that doesnt make it a better sounding sub.
Originally posted by bahmax
Why does everyone use the power rating to compare the sound quality of subs. I guess that makes a "1500W RMS" Audiobahn sub the best out there. This is foolishness. It would probably be better to pick a random sub name out of a hat than pick the one with the highest power rating. If you are going to compare subs, at least use some specs that mean something.
Brett
Why does everyone use the power rating to compare the sound quality of subs. I guess that makes a "1500W RMS" Audiobahn sub the best out there. This is foolishness. It would probably be better to pick a random sub name out of a hat than pick the one with the highest power rating. If you are going to compare subs, at least use some specs that mean something.
Brett
02-23-2003, 08:31 AM
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Originally posted by meccanoble
i got two shiva subs, for the price, its actually a great deal, 132 shipped after tax. Unfortunately, my first sub, the silver connect popped off but with my new subs i havent had problems. However, i put them to the test with a few cars. If i put the volume to a pretty good peak, the subs arent THAT accurate. They dont go great with the beat, they are only 350 watts vs. the one's don sell for same price and they are 500 watts. Plus shiva's are discontinued now and the upgrades are beacoup dollars.
125 for a 350 watt sub is a great price but the diamond audio sub that don sells is same price and 500 watts, looks A LOT better, diamond audio is clearer than shiva's, i would go with them, both are DEFINITELY stronger than W3's, do NOT go with those
i got two shiva subs, for the price, its actually a great deal, 132 shipped after tax. Unfortunately, my first sub, the silver connect popped off but with my new subs i havent had problems. However, i put them to the test with a few cars. If i put the volume to a pretty good peak, the subs arent THAT accurate. They dont go great with the beat, they are only 350 watts vs. the one's don sell for same price and they are 500 watts. Plus shiva's are discontinued now and the upgrades are beacoup dollars.
125 for a 350 watt sub is a great price but the diamond audio sub that don sells is same price and 500 watts, looks A LOT better, diamond audio is clearer than shiva's, i would go with them, both are DEFINITELY stronger than W3's, do NOT go with those