Calculating RMS
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Calculating RMS
I was checking out an amplifier rated 160+160W peak power, or 320W bridged. I wanted to know what the RMS output of the amplifier is but it's an old amp and there's no info about it on the web. I figured there had to be some way to calculate RMS from peak power, so I kept surfing the web. Then I ran into this:
http://www.radioelectronicschool.com.../reading10.pdf
Now if I'm reading this article properly, it appears that the RMS output of an amplifier is the amplifier's peak power output times 0.707, or to put it in the form of an equation:
RMS = 0.707 X Peak
If that's the case, an amplifer with 320W of peak power should be putting out 226W RMS.
Whatcha think? Does this formula apply to power amplifiers? If not, why not?
http://www.radioelectronicschool.com.../reading10.pdf
Now if I'm reading this article properly, it appears that the RMS output of an amplifier is the amplifier's peak power output times 0.707, or to put it in the form of an equation:
RMS = 0.707 X Peak
If that's the case, an amplifer with 320W of peak power should be putting out 226W RMS.
Whatcha think? Does this formula apply to power amplifiers? If not, why not?
Re: Calculating RMS
I wouldn't trust that. If you look at the specs for a lot of amps, you'll see their peak power is like double the RMS power. That would mean that the formula is peak power times .5, not .7. Here is a good amp to use as an example. Max power says 1000W, but RMS is 460. That would say it's peak times .46 . Therefore, I would not trust that formula. I think amp companies just like to put the absolute, once in a life time, on it's best day power rating. If I had to guess, I would say that amp is closer to 80x2.
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Re: Re: Calculating RMS
When I took circuits in college RMS power equalled peak power divided by the square root of 2 (which is equivalent to multiplying by 0.707). Maybe the companies can legally claim a higher peak power to trick unsuspecting buyers?
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Originally posted by Mizeree_X
When I took circuits in college RMS power equalled peak power divided by the square root of 2 (which is equivalent to multiplying by 0.707). Maybe the companies can legally claim a higher peak power to trick unsuspecting buyers?
When I took circuits in college RMS power equalled peak power divided by the square root of 2 (which is equivalent to multiplying by 0.707). Maybe the companies can legally claim a higher peak power to trick unsuspecting buyers?
What I was told one time is some manufactors use Vp-p (voltange, peak to peak) so that the number comes out higher (think of a wave) now I think you'd have to do a bunch of math to figure out what the real rms (using whatever resistance it's rated for) rating is but I think a good rule of thumb is a little less than half.
(Sorry told this a long time ago, and it's late)
(Sorry told this a long time ago, and it's late)
Originally posted by bender
What I was told one time is some manufactors use Vp-p (voltange, peak to peak) so that the number comes out higher (think of a wave) now I think you'd have to do a bunch of math to figure out what the real rms (using whatever resistance it's rated for) rating is but I think a good rule of thumb is a little less than half.
(Sorry told this a long time ago, and it's late)
What I was told one time is some manufactors use Vp-p (voltange, peak to peak) so that the number comes out higher (think of a wave) now I think you'd have to do a bunch of math to figure out what the real rms (using whatever resistance it's rated for) rating is but I think a good rule of thumb is a little less than half.
(Sorry told this a long time ago, and it's late)
you guys are alll correct. in a perfect circuit rms is peak x .707
but this isnt an ideal world, and manufacturers use different ways to calculate rms value, it is usually less than half of peak
Re: Calculating RMS
Originally posted by y2kse
I was checking out an amplifier rated 160+160W peak power, or 320W bridged. I wanted to know what the RMS output of the amplifier is but it's an old amp and there's no info about it on the web. I figured there had to be some way to calculate RMS from peak power, so I kept surfing the web. Then I ran into this:
http://www.radioelectronicschool.com.../reading10.pdf
Now if I'm reading this article properly, it appears that the RMS output of an amplifier is the amplifier's peak power output times 0.707, or to put it in the form of an equation:
RMS = 0.707 X Peak
If that's the case, an amplifer with 320W of peak power should be putting out 226W RMS.
Whatcha think? Does this formula apply to power amplifiers? If not, why not?
I was checking out an amplifier rated 160+160W peak power, or 320W bridged. I wanted to know what the RMS output of the amplifier is but it's an old amp and there's no info about it on the web. I figured there had to be some way to calculate RMS from peak power, so I kept surfing the web. Then I ran into this:
http://www.radioelectronicschool.com.../reading10.pdf
Now if I'm reading this article properly, it appears that the RMS output of an amplifier is the amplifier's peak power output times 0.707, or to put it in the form of an equation:
RMS = 0.707 X Peak
If that's the case, an amplifer with 320W of peak power should be putting out 226W RMS.
Whatcha think? Does this formula apply to power amplifiers? If not, why not?
Though I did find his voltage estimates to be off. My amp displays the voltage it's seeing, and it's almost always over 14 volts. So do your math with that.
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Re: Re: Calculating RMS
Originally posted by Kojiro_FtT
Read this: Real World Power
Though I did find his voltage estimates to be off. My amp displays the voltage it's seeing, and it's almost always over 14 volts. So do your math with that.
Read this: Real World Power
Though I did find his voltage estimates to be off. My amp displays the voltage it's seeing, and it's almost always over 14 volts. So do your math with that.
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