Kind of a weird radar detector question
06-17-2003, 09:23 AM
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Kind of a weird radar detector question
Ok well um, i like in virginia, and radar detectors are illegal here, i was just wondering if there was anyone else that lived in a state where radar detectors are illegal, that have found some way to "hard-wire" them and make them undetectable, but when a cop is around it will let you know..i hope this makes sense...thaks in advance.
-Brian
-Brian
06-17-2003, 10:56 AM
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Re: Kind of a weird radar detector question
Originally posted by Charcoal95GXE
Ok well um, i like in virginia, and radar detectors are illegal here, i was just wondering if there was anyone else that lived in a state where radar detectors are illegal, that have found some way to "hard-wire" them and make them undetectable, but when a cop is around it will let you know..i hope this makes sense...thaks in advance.
-Brian
Ok well um, i like in virginia, and radar detectors are illegal here, i was just wondering if there was anyone else that lived in a state where radar detectors are illegal, that have found some way to "hard-wire" them and make them undetectable, but when a cop is around it will let you know..i hope this makes sense...thaks in advance.
-Brian
06-17-2003, 12:22 PM
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Re: Kind of a weird radar detector question
Originally posted by Charcoal95GXE
Ok well um, i like in virginia, and radar detectors are illegal here, i was just wondering if there was anyone else that lived in a state where radar detectors are illegal, that have found some way to "hard-wire" them and make them undetectable, but when a cop is around it will let you know..i hope this makes sense...thaks in advance.
-Brian
Ok well um, i like in virginia, and radar detectors are illegal here, i was just wondering if there was anyone else that lived in a state where radar detectors are illegal, that have found some way to "hard-wire" them and make them undetectable, but when a cop is around it will let you know..i hope this makes sense...thaks in advance.
-Brian
06-17-2003, 03:12 PM
#6
Go with the V1 but I really wouldn't recommend putting the actual unit in the grill or you will ruin it in the rain. Mount it as high as possible on the windshield and run the hidden display down to your guage area.
06-17-2003, 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by WaarrEagle
Go with the V1 but I really wouldn't recommend putting the actual unit in the grill or you will ruin it in the rain. Mount it as high as possible on the windshield and run the hidden display down to your guage area.
Go with the V1 but I really wouldn't recommend putting the actual unit in the grill or you will ruin it in the rain. Mount it as high as possible on the windshield and run the hidden display down to your guage area.
Yeah forget what i said before I agree with mounting it as high as possible in the windshield and run the power wire through the A-pillar.
06-18-2003, 02:04 AM
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Here is the response from V1:
Does Valentine One have "stealth?"
Is this the same as being VG2 proof?
The real question is, can V1 be found by an instrument called a "radar-detector detector?"
Good radar detectors, like good AM/FM radios, are super-heterodyne receivers, and they all share a common trait. They receive, but they also transmit a signal; it's called "local oscillator emissions." This transmitted signal can be found by another radio if it's tuned to the right frequency. A radar-detector detector is merely a radio tuned to the right frequency range for most detectors.
VG2 is the most famous of the radar-detector detectors.
A little history: Escort was the first X-K super-heterodyne detector. Jim Jaeger and I invented it, working out of his basement in the mid-seventies. Since then, other detector makers have taken the easy way and copied Escort's frequency scheme, which means they have the same L-O frequency. So VG2 knows right where to tune for them.
The one detector that's apart from the pack is V1. I didn't copy myself. So VG2 misses Valentine One. In our tests, Valentine One is better than all others for VG2-proofing. Our best competitors are pretty good, maybe good enough. Some others resort to a dubious strategy; they switch off their radar protection when they sense VG2 nearby.
Recently, we've been hearing of another radar-detector detector, the Spectre RDD. Used first in Canada, enforcers of detector bans in Virginia and Washington, DC, and the nationwide ban in heavy trucks, surely have this tool on their must-have list. It claims to have been designed specifically "to detect the latest state of the art stealth-type radar warning receivers." Does it find V1? Very likely, according to reports we've been hearing from a few V1 users. One participant in an internet chat room, who claimed to be a Canadian enforcer, said "I've snagged a Valentine 1 already." We've been unable to acquire a Spectre RDD for testing. Until we can do so, be advised that no super-heterodyne receiver is perfectly undetectable, and that includes V1.
Does Valentine One have "stealth?"
Is this the same as being VG2 proof?
The real question is, can V1 be found by an instrument called a "radar-detector detector?"
Good radar detectors, like good AM/FM radios, are super-heterodyne receivers, and they all share a common trait. They receive, but they also transmit a signal; it's called "local oscillator emissions." This transmitted signal can be found by another radio if it's tuned to the right frequency. A radar-detector detector is merely a radio tuned to the right frequency range for most detectors.
VG2 is the most famous of the radar-detector detectors.
A little history: Escort was the first X-K super-heterodyne detector. Jim Jaeger and I invented it, working out of his basement in the mid-seventies. Since then, other detector makers have taken the easy way and copied Escort's frequency scheme, which means they have the same L-O frequency. So VG2 knows right where to tune for them.
The one detector that's apart from the pack is V1. I didn't copy myself. So VG2 misses Valentine One. In our tests, Valentine One is better than all others for VG2-proofing. Our best competitors are pretty good, maybe good enough. Some others resort to a dubious strategy; they switch off their radar protection when they sense VG2 nearby.
Recently, we've been hearing of another radar-detector detector, the Spectre RDD. Used first in Canada, enforcers of detector bans in Virginia and Washington, DC, and the nationwide ban in heavy trucks, surely have this tool on their must-have list. It claims to have been designed specifically "to detect the latest state of the art stealth-type radar warning receivers." Does it find V1? Very likely, according to reports we've been hearing from a few V1 users. One participant in an internet chat room, who claimed to be a Canadian enforcer, said "I've snagged a Valentine 1 already." We've been unable to acquire a Spectre RDD for testing. Until we can do so, be advised that no super-heterodyne receiver is perfectly undetectable, and that includes V1.
06-19-2003, 02:14 AM
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Originally posted by drauden
Here is the response from V1:
Recently, we've been hearing of another radar-detector detector, the Spectre RDD. Used first in Canada, enforcers of detector bans in Virginia and Washington, DC, and the nationwide ban in heavy trucks, surely have this tool on their must-have list. It claims to have been designed specifically "to detect the latest state of the art stealth-type radar warning receivers." Does it find V1? Very likely, according to reports we've been hearing from a few V1 users. One participant in an internet chat room, who claimed to be a Canadian enforcer, said "I've snagged a Valentine 1 already." We've been unable to acquire a Spectre RDD for testing. Until we can do so, be advised that no super-heterodyne receiver is perfectly undetectable, and that includes V1.
Here is the response from V1:
Recently, we've been hearing of another radar-detector detector, the Spectre RDD. Used first in Canada, enforcers of detector bans in Virginia and Washington, DC, and the nationwide ban in heavy trucks, surely have this tool on their must-have list. It claims to have been designed specifically "to detect the latest state of the art stealth-type radar warning receivers." Does it find V1? Very likely, according to reports we've been hearing from a few V1 users. One participant in an internet chat room, who claimed to be a Canadian enforcer, said "I've snagged a Valentine 1 already." We've been unable to acquire a Spectre RDD for testing. Until we can do so, be advised that no super-heterodyne receiver is perfectly undetectable, and that includes V1.
06-19-2003, 11:40 PM
#13
Just out of curiosity, if I drove through a state like VA where radar detectors are illegal can they take mine being from out of state? Are there signs that say no detectors? I have never been there so I wouldn't know. And about detecting detectors. If Valentine One's R&D team can't get their hands on one of those Spectre RDD units then I doubt too many police forces have them. And if they do then the V1 will be your best bet of staying hidden.
06-20-2003, 04:34 AM
#14
Originally posted by WaarrEagle
Just out of curiosity, if I drove through a state like VA where radar detectors are illegal can they take mine being from out of state? Are there signs that say no detectors? I have never been there so I wouldn't know.
Just out of curiosity, if I drove through a state like VA where radar detectors are illegal can they take mine being from out of state? Are there signs that say no detectors? I have never been there so I wouldn't know.
If you get pulled over with one operating in your car, well.... 
06-20-2003, 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by SuperChris
There are signs as you enter VA telling you RD's are illegal. On the honor system, you're expected to turn it off as long as you drive in VA. If you get pulled over with one operating in your car, well....
There are signs as you enter VA telling you RD's are illegal. On the honor system, you're expected to turn it off as long as you drive in VA.
If you get pulled over with one operating in your car, well....
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