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Old 12-03-2003, 10:30 PM
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Can I cut out the plastic door grills and...

If the components I ordered are too deep, is it possible to cut the plastic door panel (grill) and mount the speaker directly on the plastic door trim? I know it can be done, I'm just asking to see if it will generate waaaay too much vibration between the door trim, and the metal door. I plan on using a foam baffle from Crutchfield to "contain" the sound.

Has anyone done this on a 5th gen? Does is sound ok?...

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i think it's more of a support issue. would the plastic be able to support the speaker? some of those magnets can get heavy and over time the plastic might crack under the stress. my $.02
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You shouldn't have any depth issues with your new component set fitting behind the door panel grille. I just installed a JL Audio component set and mounted the 6.5" woofers on 3/4" MDF mounting rings, and there is no issues at all. You should be just fine.

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Old 12-03-2003, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SEmy2K2go
You shouldn't have any depth issues with your new component set fitting behind the door panel grille. I just installed a JL Audio component set and mounted the 6.5" woofers on 3/4" MDF mounting rings, and there is no issues at all. You should be just fine.

Sweet! Where did you get those MDF rings?...

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Originally Posted by 02MaXiMa_GLE
Sweet! Where did you get those MDF rings?...

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I made them. When you get your component set, most likely, you'll get a template with the diameter of the hole you would need to cut out when mounting the woofer into a location. What you do is, cut out the hole for the diameter of the new woofer in a sheet of MDF. Then take the factory speakers and center the magnet into the new 6" hole you just cut out. Trace an outline of the factory speaker which has 3 rounded areas in which the woofer screws to the door frame. Simply cut out the new ring, get some longer self-drilling metal screws from Lowe's or HD and you're golden. I'll post a pic of one of the ones I made for my install from over the weekend.
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G,

You better not do that , ....jeez...just give me a holla and we'll make it work..the right way!

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OUCH bro... Damn I got a SLAP and a KICK in the nuts.

Sounds good man... I'm sure we can tackle it no problem, O!...

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Originally Posted by 02MaXiMa_GLE
OUCH bro... Damn I got a SLAP and a KICK in the nuts.

Sounds good man... I'm sure we can tackle it no problem, O!...

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enjoy those cdt's. im not sure if im getting my system installed now. i went to circuit city and they asked ridiculas prices to install everyting. they wanted $120 for the steering whell controls part and 60 for labor. what a joke. you may need to dynamat your doors because those cdt's are so good.
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Originally Posted by 02MaXiMa_GLE
If the components I ordered are too deep, is it possible to cut the plastic door panel (grill) and mount the speaker directly on the plastic door trim? I know it can be done, I'm just asking to see if it will generate waaaay too much vibration between the door trim, and the metal door. I plan on using a foam baffle from Crutchfield to "contain" the sound.

Has anyone done this on a 5th gen? Does is sound ok?...

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what component did you get?
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Old 12-04-2003, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 02MaXiMa_GLE
If the components I ordered are too deep, is it possible to cut the plastic door panel (grill) and mount the speaker directly on the plastic door trim? I know it can be done, I'm just asking to see if it will generate waaaay too much vibration between the door trim, and the metal door. I plan on using a foam baffle from Crutchfield to "contain" the sound.

Has anyone done this on a 5th gen? Does is sound ok?...

Thanks,
G
hey, how long does it take to ship the cdt's? im gonna install my system with a friend and i just may buy them.
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Old 12-04-2003, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 02MaXiMa_GLE
OUCH bro... Damn I got a SLAP and a KICK in the nuts.

Sounds good man... I'm sure we can tackle it no problem, O!...

G

man...hit me up...u should still have my work info...if not PM me and I'll get you the math!
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Old 12-04-2003, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by slickrick
hey, how long does it take to ship the cdt's? im gonna install my system with a friend and i just may buy them.
Scheduled delivery is Friday the 5th. I may not get a chance to install this weekend due to weather... or I may just wait for my amp.

Ola, I'll hit you up when I get ready to drop 'em in... What do you mean by "the math" ?... I thought I always got better grades than you

-jk I still have your info, bro!

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Old 12-04-2003, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by kgb006
what component did you get?
The HD-62CF up front:

http://www.thezeb.com/caraudio/CDT_A...omponents.html

and CL-6X for the rear:

http://www.thezeb.com/caraudio/CDT_Audio_FullRange.html

Notice the 4 & 3 year warranties!

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Originally Posted by 02MaXiMa_GLE
The HD-62CF up front:

http://www.thezeb.com/caraudio/CDT_A...omponents.html

and CL-6X for the rear:

http://www.thezeb.com/caraudio/CDT_Audio_FullRange.html

Notice the 4 & 3 year warranties!

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are you running them off the h/u or an amp? i think im gonan buy them tomorrow because with free shipping they are actually cheaper than the kappas. i just hope they are not a pita to install myself.
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Originally Posted by slickrick
are you running them off the h/u or an amp? i think im gonan buy them tomorrow because with free shipping they are actually cheaper than the kappas. i just hope they are not a pita to install myself.
Haha sucka... I was kidding!

No really.. I bought them and they'll be here tomorrow. Are you also buying the rears? According to ABS you should be able to run them off the stock Bose amp up front. However, and amp is REALLY needed to drive these carbons (from what I hear)

I have the crappy Bose setup, so I may just wait and install with an aftermarket amp. Would you believe that the Sentra's NON-BOSE setup sounds WAAAAY BETTER than my Bose! Even the Bass is louder & cleaner!

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Old 12-04-2003, 07:28 PM
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02MaXiMa_GLE, here is a pic of the ring setup I was speaking of yesterday.



Hope that helps out some.
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Old 12-04-2003, 08:04 PM
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Would a jig saw work for this?
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Old 12-04-2003, 08:05 PM
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and would this also work? http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/S...o&i=003SG600DX
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Old 12-04-2003, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 02MaXiMa_GLE
Haha sucka... I was kidding!

No really.. I bought them and they'll be here tomorrow. Are you also buying the rears? According to ABS you should be able to run them off the stock Bose amp up front. However, and amp is REALLY needed to drive these carbons (from what I hear)

I have the crappy Bose setup, so I may just wait and install with an aftermarket amp. Would you believe that the Sentra's NON-BOSE setup sounds WAAAAY BETTER than my Bose! Even the Bass is louder & cleaner!

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how much are the rears? i just may have to do it before they sell out.
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Old 12-05-2003, 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by slickrick
how much are the rears? i just may have to do it before they sell out.
$45 shipped...

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Old 12-05-2003, 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by SEmy2K2go
02MaXiMa_GLE, here is a pic of the ring setup I was speaking of yesterday.



Hope that helps out some.
Looks amazing!

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Originally Posted by 02MaXiMa_GLE
Scheduled delivery is Friday the 5th. I may not get a chance to install this weekend due to weather... or I may just wait for my amp.

Ola, I'll hit you up when I get ready to drop 'em in... What do you mean by "the math" ?... I thought I always got better grades than you

-jk I still have your info, bro!

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Originally Posted by 02MaXiMa_GLE
Looks amazing!

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another example of an MDF cutout....

Diamond Audio Hex on 1" MDF Ring
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Originally Posted by 02MaXiMa_GLE
$45 shipped...

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alright. i just ordered both the fronts and back online. just under $200. im excited.
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Old 12-05-2003, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by slickrick
alright. i just ordered both the fronts and back online. just under $200. im excited.
Huh?... I paid $200 + $45??? Did you get the CF ones? Which model# did you order? The CF ones come with silk-dome tweeter.

I just popped the box open. The Carbons look nice. The coaxials came in a small box... but I think I'll keep them. Some people say they work great. If need be I can always replace in the future Besides they're the only coaxials that CDT makes (except for the Braxials)

Now I need Foam baffles from Crutchfield for all 4 speakers & the 8" deck sub!

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Originally Posted by 02MaXiMa_GLE
Huh?... I paid $200 + $45??? Did you get the CF ones? Which model# did you order? The CF ones come with silk-dome tweeter.

I just popped the box open. The Carbons look nice. The coaxials came in a small box... but I think I'll keep them. Some people say they work great. If need be I can always replace in the future Besides they're the only coaxials that CDT makes (except for the Braxials)

Now I need Foam baffles from Crutchfield for all 4 speakers & the 8" deck sub!

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nah. i got the ones for 149 with the bad paint. and i got the cl6x 6.5 coaxials. why doe we need baffles? because they wont fit?
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Is it better to take out the stock baffles? I kept mine in and added a ring adaptor on top of that. Maybe that's why I had fitment issues.
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Would 1/2 inch mdf work or would it hit th window?
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Old 12-06-2003, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by slickrick
nah. why doe we need baffles? because they wont fit?
To protect the speakers from outside moisture & it also helps with the acoustics.

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Originally Posted by 02MaXiMa_GLE
To protect the speakers from outside moisture & it also helps with the acoustics.

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do these really work and is it necessary?
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Just a quick word to the wise, if you put MDF in the door, you had better coat it with something. MDF does not mix with water. It will expand to over double its thickness. I have been installing for 12 years, and I have taken out some nasty stuff from people not putting a little fiberglass resin on the MDF. I have seen it warp the speaker frame over 1/2 an inch. I would actually recommend using plywood over MDF in the door if you cannot fiberglass the MDF
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