im just curious y alot of ppl have them [ sorry if its a stupid ques] i mean my local audio store doesnt have them, and i havent seen cruthcfield with them, so what makes them so good? y dont most ppl jus have solo barricks L7 or sumtin? dont flame me, im jus curious to know if there that good of a sub tanx neways

 

Good question They are good subs, no argument there, but the only thing I dont like about diamond is the BL is higher then needs be. You can get a better sub for the $, they are overpriced IMO.

 

the reason crutchfield doesnt sell them is because they dont sell over the internet. i have all diamond and i like it better than most things ive heard. ive had Type R's, JL's and even audiobahns<crap) and the diamond i had before this was better than them all. the one now im getting is their TDX and ive heard it in a max before and its insane. great subs, great amps, and personally, the best components.

 

Better quality. Better build. Better sound.

 

id say if anything in general that everyone does "not" have diamond subs. just a few guys on here do but in general if i asked anyone i knew they'd have no clue about diamond subs.

 

because right now i am thinking of gettina a sony xplod 12 inch but my friend said that is crap, then i thought about a L7 but everyone around my way has one i mean i like it but i want something different, i am curious how much a diamond sub goes for, if its that good i could probably scrap up to buy a 10inch if they sell it.

 

Crutchfield doesn't have the greatest selection of car audio equipment, they sell commercial mainstream lines- and high end companies restrict their products from being sold online to avoid piracy, refurb equip to be sold as new, and joe internet schmoe from downselling dealers and offering no warranties-which can harm a companies reputation

 

2DaMax,

If you haven't realized it by now I'm partial to JL audio. So thats what I would recommend you buy. I've posted several times about the different brands I've owned before & I have to say IMHO there excellent. I once owned a pair of JL audio 12W6 (the originals) & those damn speakers lasted well over 5yrs. I never had a single problem with them, they always sounded great. When I finally decided to sell them I was able to get $300 bucks for them, I including the box. And the guy I sold them too still has them & they work great. There not as pretty as they used to be when I owned them but they still function. Until I own another set of subwoofers that can take the amount of abuse I put into those things my hearts set on JL. I don't know what other way to explain it other then I consider JL audio lifetime equiptment. By the time you "decide", note key word "decide" to replace your subwoofer(s) they have well paided for themselves. So basically your decision to replace them is pretty much because you want to not because you have too. Thats just my feelings about them. There are other brands I like also, but nothing has proven to me there as durable.

 

sony sucks ***

 

thanks guys for the info, and thanks again nostroxide lol, hmm JL huh, ill look into them after hearing that comment nostoxide.The lady at the audio store said jls are for maturer ppl then me because of the quality sound, to where i want bass lol she told me i would rip those speakers up in a week the way i bass my music. but ive heard of JLs reputation but i never really payed attention to it, and i never heard a JL sub. the only subs i hear are rockfords audiobahns and type Rs.

 

Everytime i go to the store she really pushes me on the xplods or the type Rs. dam all i wanted was a sub and an amp lol i got that and now i want something even better! i didnt know i was going to get addicted to sound, even though im all about speed.

 

Yep, get funky pups instead. They go Boom like so...

 

Well let me put it like this. First of all the information you got is coming from a female. Not that I am racist against females, any female that is down with stereo equiptment is cool with me. But honestly, common man? Thats like asking a dude's advice about high heels & make up. I think the only thing that harms JL's rep is the fact that the are alittle pricey. But isn't the good stuff always alittle more expensive then the average equiptment? Also if all you have been hearing are RF, Audiobahn, Alpine & Kickers then I got big news for you. None of those subwoofers can hold a candle to a JL. From what I've been reading & hearing lately is the other brands that are comparable to JL's are Brahma's, Diamond, Eclipse & a few others I can't think of at the moment. I'm sure someone will eventually read this post & add a few more brands.

 

Those are a few of the best but Im not going to add much more then that.
Adire Audio, Resonant Engineering. Both are worth looking into, in terms of either SPL or SQ or a combo of both, both offer some damn nice products to suit your needs (actually beyond your needs ).

Closing comments...the search feature now works!!...use it.
Also check out places such as www.caraudioforum.com
www.soundillusion.net www.caraudio.com

Search there & ask questions there for a more broad section of info.

Im done.

 

John your on those too? LoL never saw ya there before, now I know who to look for and harass

 

Yes Don I am

Ive been on CAF for a while, same with CA, SI I just joined not too long ago but dont post much I havnt visited any of the audio sites for a little while though, but I will...eventually

Which 1 are you on most often?

 

Usually on CA, but mostly on This one

 

im gonna have to add mb quart to that list

 

forget diamonds

 

^Thats what IM saying!^

i love it when the funky pups go boom!!! booom!!! like so. i really like the pink and yellow colors
they kick ***. i was wonderin if u could cut me some kind of a deal
because those funky pups make me broke like so. but still the wooffer
goes BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!! like so. i love the pups. pink..yellow....funky
pup? im lookin forward to the poundage ill get in my geo metro with
these PUPS. i heard that snoop dogg has some pups in his lowrider fool
with dubs n ****. just so u know THE WOOFER SAYS BOOM!! LIKE SO.. fool

http://www.nexxon.com/funkypup/funkypup.htm.bak

 

I also owned a JL mine was a 15w3d2. I tell you the truth when I say that it pounded like no other. I pushed it with a 1000 watt amp and it rocked!!! Forget those ghey xplods, get some JL's. I rocked mine for over 2 years with no problems at all. When I say rocked I mean it, I shook my little Ford probe apart with it. Trust me, YOU WILL NOT RIP A JL APART!!!"

 

Reaaaaaaaally, put that sub in my box and Ill destroy it

 

all I have to say is Resonant Engineering. Hand made subs, you can only get from distributors, or factory direct, not on the internet. At this one sound off local to me, a guy with the 12" SE version RE sub destroyed this w7. Wasn't even close, they both had sealed boxes. 1200W, and still goes through all the octaves without the least bit of trouble. Simply amazing

 

dam im thinking about getting a jl. after comming home from school today my friend gave me his blown 15 inchL7 so i could give it to my cousin so he could rewire it, neways theres alwasy this aviator there with a system that rocks the school man, he sees the sub and laughs, hes like i have 2 10 inch jls [ i forgot the name] nd hes like if your not going to get jls get xxx. i was like wtf? i saw dat movie alredy nd he just starts explainin to me about it that its a bad *** speaker. neways i tink JL has a website rite? im curious to know how much they cost, but i was suprised the dude with the aviator had JL's the bass was crazy, i always thought they were solo barricks. owell i was wrong. o the dude who gave me the L7 to fix has a 92 300zx with a rockford amp and 2 12 hx2s they sound like tweeters compared to the JLS man!

 

The XXX is by Resonant Engineering or RE...bad a$$ subs. JLs are nice but way overpriced. Like others have mentioned, look into Adire, DD, RE, Image Dynamics, etc. There are plenty of alternatives to JL. After all, how many SPL vehicles use them? Also decide on what you are going to power them with. Chances are that guy in the Navi has a whole bunch of power.

 

yo dan how much those subs go for the ones you mentioned? for like a 10 inch

 

o the system in his aviator were W7

 

well i know the 1200W sub from resonant engineering is $180+shipping factory direct. The XXX is a 2500W sub, so I guessing anywhere up to double that because they are freakin amazing subs.

 

Call them at (702) 896 4823. If you have a dealer in your area, then they will give you the contact information. The price will be set by your dealer. If not, then you can buy them factory direct. They also have multiple product line. The lower RE line is a very good value. Their XXX line is one of the best using XBL^2 technology from Adire Audio. They also have a few lines in-between to accomodate all different price points.

Adire Audio was also mentioned. They are another of the lesser known sub maker. The top of the line Brahma series use a low distortion motor (magnet and voice coil) called XBL^2. I haven't heard one but reports say that it's one of the cleanest sounding subs on the market. What sets them apart from RE, Adire's mid line (Koda Series) also uses XBL^2. Their lowest line is one of the best bargains in audio with the Shiva and Tempest.

Adire is more a research company. They manufacture very few drivers for sale. They will build some special order ($$$) ones if you are willing to pay. They get the Shiva and Tempest from Eminence Manufacturing, who is one of the oldest driver manufacturer in the US. The Brahma and maybe the Koda are manufactured by Destijl Engineering. If you look up the address for Destijl and RE, they are the same. That's one of the reasons they use Adire's technology in RE subs. I finally get to my point. These are small companies but they are passionate about audio. It's not uncommon to find the CEO of Adire posting on Home Theater sites. You aren't going to find that type of service or commitment with the big boys.

-Robert

 

What about a Koda 10...avail for the low low price of 229.00 from http://www.adireaudio.com/Merchant2/...gory_Code=2000

I've only ever seen one but I hear they are great, or you can step up to a Brahma for 349.00. The others that I mentioned don't have published online prices.

yo 2DMax how much coin you willin to spend anyway?

 

I don't know what you have in your trink, but if you will destroy it then crazy props go out to you!!!! Great job buddy. For the normal joe schmo, That would be hard to do, thats all i'm sayin...

 

im willing to spend around 150 to 200

 

Ill keep this thread jack relativley short

Lets just say its enough to flex the entire car...& break a few things in the process
Perhaps "destroy" is kind of an exaggeration, but im 100% sure that I can roast the VC's til the sub is no longer functional. Thats w/o changing anything in my setup. Shouldnt take too long. Actually, that would be kinda fun, just to see how long another sub can last.

 

ive been on ca.com since 2001... it humors me that site. i like SI and CAF is a notch above CA but below SI imo. although their are too many OT posts on SI. btw... go funky pups!

 

No Diamond Subs here

 

wow those are nice

 

The subwoofer debate can go on & on & on. It doesn't always take the best equiptment or big $$$ to make something sound good. I once helped my friend build a system in his Integra & we hooked up (6) 8" Radio Shack DVC woofers to a JBL 500 X 1 mono amp & it was insane. His system produced just as much bass as my 2 JL W6's & I was running 500w to each one. And no, my system wasn't hooked up worng, my box wasn't sh!tty or anything like that. The only difference was I had more money in my equiptment. There are tons of different brands of subwoofers (known & unknown) that work great. Just buy something that fits your budget & make the best of it. I promise you'll be happy...

 

Doug...those are supposed to be in an enclosure in your car !

 

niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!

 

I agree with the JL experience. I have had my 3 10W3's in my car for over four years now and they continue to rock on. They are wired at 1 Ohm and are powered by a Xtant 1001 that puts out approximately 333 watts RMS to each 250 watts RMS sub without a problem so far. The car hits 143 db which is pretty loud for what I have. Go to a dealer and negotiate a price, most dealers that sell JL often sell below MSRP. For your situation a W3 or W6 will be much better because the wattage needed for the W7 will cost you huge bucks.

Yes, they are expensive; No, they are not indestructible.