I still dont understand why ported boxes are better than bazooka tubes
10-20-2004, 05:17 PM
#1
I still dont understand why ported boxes are better than bazooka tubes
i dont know that much about electrical and crap, and ive been searching around about comparisons for bass tubes and ported boxes but i only find comparisons for sealed and ported. THE only reason i ask this i because i have an oldschool punch DVC and the thing is it bases crazy in the tube. i mean you can feel the bass inside the car but outside its sounds like crap trunk just rattling. now i have a huge ported box [the old mtx ones with the feedback hole and tweeters on it.] i put the punch dvc in there and it sounds like a dam 6x9. why does a bazooka tube bass more than a ported box? now i know im going to get flamed like crazy but im just asking from my experience. thanks
10-20-2004, 05:34 PM
#2
thats b'cause the bass tube is sealed. the spk is prob a seald box spk.
it all has to do with how the spk rebounds. with a sealed box the sound hits the back of the tube and rebounds back to the spk. so it moves back and forth quicker.
with a ported it doesn't rebound as quick since the bass leaves the box.
the key is to move the air. move the air get bass.
don't get me wrong some spk work well with ported box better, but they are built for that. some spk are made diffrent than others some harder some weaker, that can compromise bass depending on the box.
it all has to do with how the spk rebounds. with a sealed box the sound hits the back of the tube and rebounds back to the spk. so it moves back and forth quicker.
with a ported it doesn't rebound as quick since the bass leaves the box.
the key is to move the air. move the air get bass.
don't get me wrong some spk work well with ported box better, but they are built for that. some spk are made diffrent than others some harder some weaker, that can compromise bass depending on the box.
10-20-2004, 05:51 PM
#3
oooooo i get it especially how my tube is facing 2inches away from the back of the trunk, the bass builds up in that spot i guess. as if how i had that speaker in a ported box, the speaker was too weak and unable to move all that air. so to move air i need bigger subs then a 10inch, like a 15?
10-20-2004, 05:59 PM
#4
well, people think that the more "watts" you have the better, but I had 15" before with a cheap 300w amp bridged and people would hear me coming down the street. it was a real head turner. so its not all wattage and size, its how you organize your system.
Eq, crossovers, ect..... if its set right your golden.
right now i got a pair of 10" and you'll be surprised. I won't flex my windshield but inside sounds perfect.
Eq, crossovers, ect..... if its set right your golden.
right now i got a pair of 10" and you'll be surprised. I won't flex my windshield but inside sounds perfect.
10-20-2004, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 2 Da Max
i dont know that much about electrical and crap, and ive been searching around about comparisons for bass tubes and ported boxes but i only find comparisons for sealed and ported. THE only reason i ask this i because i have an oldschool punch DVC and the thing is it bases crazy in the tube. i mean you can feel the bass inside the car but outside its sounds like crap trunk just rattling. now i have a huge ported box [the old mtx ones with the feedback hole and tweeters on it.] i put the punch dvc in there and it sounds like a dam 6x9. why does a bazooka tube bass more than a ported box? now i know im going to get flamed like crazy but im just asking from my experience. thanks
10-20-2004, 09:25 PM
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Apparently what has been missed here is what size is the tube and what size is the box? Volume wise. The sh!tiest speaker can sound decent in a proper enclosure whereas a "great" speaker can sound like **** in a bad enclosure. Yo !
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10-20-2004, 09:25 PM
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My best guess would be that it has to do with the waves coming out linear from the tube. The tube directs them, and then they travel by the linear direction. That is exactly why Adire Audio made Sadhara subwoofer for home theater systems.
10-21-2004, 09:56 AM
#15
huh, it might have to do with the sound reflection in you trunk than his hatckback. sedans also use the trunk as a box itself. so your bass is prob been produced by the whole trunk.
bass is better when it moves back and forth. like side to side. that can't happen in a hatchback.
bass is better when it moves back and forth. like side to side. that can't happen in a hatchback.
10-21-2004, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
Apparently what has been missed here is what size is the tube and what size is the box? Volume wise. The sh!tiest speaker can sound decent in a proper enclosure whereas a "great" speaker can sound like **** in a bad enclosure. Yo !
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Reflective sound waves, ported vs sealed, etc.....volume is the probably the key in this "experiment". Maybe the tube's volume is in the spkr's sweet spot. Maybe the box is too small or poorly designed. Who knows?
My question is this: If it sounds better to you in the tube, why not leave it there and enjoy it? Do you just WANT a ported box?
10-21-2004, 12:43 PM
#21
Originally Posted by 2 Da Max
o tek nig i am getting a kicker comp vr 12inch today, lol i will make a ported box for it though. the only thing is........... i never built a box b4
tell you the truth thats the only thing i haven't done is built a box. but I do know somethings what do you wanna know?
10-21-2004, 01:08 PM
#22
yea man of course, my friend told me that it as to be built for a certain tuning? its going to be a box for one 12 inch and i want to get as much bass as i can out of it. i have the nails, saw, silicone all i need is the mdf, how much does that go for?
10-21-2004, 01:13 PM
#25
Originally Posted by 2 Da Max
yea man of course, my friend told me that it as to be built for a certain tuning? its going to be a box for one 12 inch and i want to get as much bass as i can out of it. i have the nails, saw, silicone all i need is the mdf, how much does that go for?
I was looking into do it once. MDF wood I think its hard to get (I'm prob wrong)
they don't sell it at home depot. and silicone is defenatly needed.
for 12" you will need at least 12" of diameter oround the spk. and the bigger the box the better more air being moved in the box. but why ported?
10-21-2004, 01:20 PM
#27
Originally Posted by 2 Da Max
lol the first time i made a box for my 10inc i traced the speaker on the wood. and when i place the speaker in the box, the speaker went rite through lol
ha ha ha!!!! yea this right here was wrong. you have to trace the spk, then mesure the ring of the spk from the outside to the spk rubber its like an inch or so. then you minus that from the trace.
so you have a 12 inch spk and a 11 inch hole
10-21-2004, 01:23 PM
#29
Originally Posted by 2 Da Max
so sealed then? what should i do? i guess i should make a sealed box for my first box then rite?
yea go sealed better is a tighter bass and easier to build. the port can't just be put there. they are rules to that and it looks like a maze. a sealed is a straight up box. simple but effective.
10-21-2004, 01:25 PM
#30
Originally Posted by 2 Da Max
ok, so i should go about building a sealed box then rite? so the bigger the box the more bass? sorry for all the ques i hope im not annoying u
no harm I'm here to help
10-22-2004, 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 2 Da Max
so the bigger the box the more bass? sorry for all the ques i hope im not annoying u
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10-22-2004, 06:27 AM
#34
Originally Posted by Tek-Niq
I was looking into do it once. MDF wood I think its hard to get (I'm prob wrong)
they don't sell it at home depot. and silicone is defenatly needed.
for 12" you will need at least 12" of diameter oround the spk. and the bigger the box the better more air being moved in the box. but why ported?
they don't sell it at home depot. and silicone is defenatly needed.
for 12" you will need at least 12" of diameter oround the spk. and the bigger the box the better more air being moved in the box. but why ported?
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