roll4life

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so i thought about it..and since i'm on a really tight budget..i decided to go with 2 alpine type e's 12"..so thats about $180..then i will get a sealed box for about $50 hopefully and this amp...

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-FYDUVUs...30&I=037A8000T


its a pretty good price($300) for it and i think 400 watts will be enough for my likes...so im hoping with a wiring kit and installation everything will come out to about $550..and if it does that would be perfect..im hoping to install it myself..since i only want a little extra bump i think this setup will be good

any comments or suggestions about the amp or anything else guys?

thanks a lot

TheBigDu

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Eh, don't get that amp, man. For $300, you can get a much, much better one that does 400 watts. Talk to Don (Pearl96Max) about an ARC amp.

roll4life

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hmm i should do that...whats so special about ARC though? i really don't know too much about amps, and this one just appealed to me since its pretty cheap and has a cooling fan..does Don have like an actual company or a website?

machinehead

Actually, the amp does 800 watts in 2 ohms, which is what he'll be running at. Wayyyy too much power for those subs. Those subs are actually 150 bux for 2, they are on sale btw.

Heres the deal. For a sub, buy this: http://www.ascendantaudio.com/Atlas%2015.htm
The atlas 15 is the same price as 2 of those alpine subs, and has 33% more displacement(much louder). Go with that instead.

For an amp, that auidobahn is kinda gay, so we will find you something better, for less cash too. I reccomend this amp: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...768246985&rd=1
Not many mono class D sub amps put out their rated power into 4 ohms(The atlas is 4 ohms), but this one does. 400 watts is plenty for that sub.

As for a box, I highly suggest building your own. All you need is a jigsaw and you're set. We'll help you out with designing it. If thats not an option, we'll help ya find a decent prefab box.

OMG, crutchfield is gay: peak power: 750 watts RMS.....who da fawk rates peak power in RMS d'oh!

roll4life

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im kinda sure about the type e's at this moment so all i need now is amp ideas for them..but thanks anyways


i like the amp idea..maybe more amp ideas would be great..and do i have to use 4 gauge wiring or can i use something else?

AscendantMax

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that amp is a powerful but it shouldn't be a problem if he wired it in a series to get a 8 ohm load. the subs will see about 200 watts.

roll4life

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hey do you know any other cheaper but good quality amps that would suit the type e's better? cause that audibahn was just an idea

slickrick

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yeah to be honest 1 15" atlas with 300 watts sealed would be alot better than the 2 type E's in build quality, sq, and possibly spl.

roll4life

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haha damn man you guys always have to change my mind..maybe i will go with that atlas after all...lol well what 300 watt amp should i get for it? i mean i trust your judgement guys..i dont wana buy something that i will regret buying

roll4life

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thanks for the help guys..i like the idea of that 15" but i think the two 12's would suit my needs better

Black Maxima

What's wrong with this amp?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT

I think it would go very well with 2 Alpine Type E's. Bridged at 4ohms you get 200watts RMS per sub.

AscendantMax

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i think they hve a typo on the specs. it's a mono amp, you can't bridge it.

Black Maxima

WOW then the people working at BestBuy are RETARDS! Who says you can't bridge a mono amp? How else would you power 2 subs with a mono amp? Shed me some light...say I was to get two AlPine Type E's and that Alpine amp - how would I wire it up? Thanks...

Aaron

TheBigDu

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Bridging an amp consists of combining two channels into one. Since a mono amp is already one channel, you can't bridge it.

I'm not sure if there's a term for splitting one channel to power two speakers, but I'm pretty sure it's not "bridge." You just have to connect two wires to the positive and two to the negative, and run one of each to each sub, as far as I know.

Black Maxima

Thanks, I was a bit confused about the term "bridging". I thought that's what spliting one channel into two was. But, I'm wrong, so it is as simple as hooking up two positives and two negatives. And another question: When you have 2 subs on a one channel amp, will each sub get the full amount of watts RMS for the channel? Or do you cut it in half?

Thanks, Aaron

TheBigDu

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I'm not an expert on this, and I think it may depend on whether you have dual or single voice coil subs, but you would ideally get half of the wattage output per sub. When Don returns to the forum, he should be able to clarify this for you a bit more.

slickrick

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jbl 600.1 is a mono amp... 600 watts at 1,2 ohms. 2 subs= 300 to each sub if the total impredence is 1 or 2 ohms.

AscendantMax

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well you don't really just hook up two positives and two negatives. check out these drawings courtesy of RF.





i use these because the thread is talking about the alpine type e's ,which are SVC 4 ohms. wiring two DVC subs is a bit more involved.

Black Maxima

Right, I was looking at those also. So I get the Alpine amp and two Type E subs. Which "picture" would you recommend wiring them at? Thanks for staying with me...

Aaron

AscendantMax

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depends on the amp's power. the lower the resistance, the easier the amp to supply the power.

if the sub can only take 200 watts for example, and running at 2 ohms will give them 400 watts, i'd run them at 4 ohms instead so the power would be lower. you got to look at both the amp's power at difference ohms, and the power handling of the sub (which is enclosure dependent...but that's for another thread).

machinehead

Trust me man, that 15" will be louder and sound better than those alpines could ever hope to be. don't get caught up on bling bling alpine hype.

It would put out 200 watts total, 100 to each sub. For $300, thats a waste.

roll4life

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hmm i see..damn..well that atlas 15" is $160 and it handles 300 watts if i'm reading it right on their website..so if i want to use a medium sized box...not too big..but big enough to sound great and have all the right dimensions..with that in mind, do i want an amp that puts out around 400 watts? more or less?
thanks guys

roll4life

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hey actually i just read that the atlas 15 only needs like 250 watts..whats up with that? so if i get a 300 watt amp that should suffice?

TheBigDu

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Does anybody really need a 15" sub? You guys trying to make your doors fall off or something?

roll4life

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haha no way man..maybe just some bump but nothing too crazy..this 15" is only rated at 300 watts so thats not crazy loud like some other subs out there

slickrick

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nah my 15" ported is perfect for me. the 15" atlas needs about 300 watts total which is nice because it needs a cheap amp and will not burdon the electrical system much.

TheBigDu

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OT warning

slickrick- You need a cardomain site or something so we can check out your ride and your system. Got any pics anywhere?

slickrick

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my ride is nothing but tint and some audio mods. i can post up some pix of my system in my mug thread if you like. i just use my schools webspace as my website.

TheBigDu

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I do the same thing with the school's space. But if you noticed, I went all out on my site (probably a waste of time) and basically all I have are some lighting mods and a system. Just because your car is mostly stock, doesn't mean I don't want to check it out. It's a Maxima, damn it! And Majestic Blue at that! Now post some pics!

slickrick

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surprisingly i dont have any pix of my max besides system pix. i should take some pix because i washed the beast last night. anyway heres my "site" i have a bunch of pix im hosting for either myself, the org, or my frat. so check em out and tell me what you think. also at the bottom there is a special treat where you CAN see my car in motion.

http://plaza.ufl.edu/gator68/

roll4life

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hey slickrick..what amp are you using to power that avalanche?

slickrick

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DEI 750D...i like it for the price.

roll4life

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hows the quality on that amp?

roll4life

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anyways guys..disregard my ideas in this thread..i changed my mind again lol..i think ill spend some more money and get a bigger system..i still want a 15" but i want it louder and more than 300 watts..i just want to do it right the first time so i could enjoy it for a while..sorry for all the confusion

slickrick

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whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa??? this is like the 18th time you've changed your mind right? if you have had no prior systems id go as far to say a 15 ported with 300 watts will be PLENTY loud for you. as for the quality of my amp... i beat on it in the FL sun and it never gets hot.

roll4life

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lol what do you mean by PLENTY loud? i want to really feel the bass and i want it to hit real hard

AscendantMax

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sit in my car with my 12" brahma blasting...it'll give you an idea of how "plenty loud" sounds like

woofer sized isn't the main thing to look at. it's all in the box and the design of the sub.

slickrick

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lol you have no clue what you want. you can feel the bass with a 12 sealed and 300 watts. i need to make a video sometime this week to show wha ta 15" ported is about.

AscendantMax

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agreed....slick you need to make better vids

roll4life

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aigh lol i get it guys..then yea ill stick with the atlas 15" since now i think it will deff be enough bump..for as for the box...i saw your box for your 15" slick..and thats pretty big

i was wondering what the difference between this box

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1082742218889

and slickricks style box...i mean that bestbuy box is pretty expensive but much smaller..