Slickrick got metered today!
05-09-2005, 09:42 AM
#41
Originally Posted by filtor1
I was talking with a competitor at SBN who happened to be the Regional champion in his division, he was running a pair of Kicker Solo-X 12's in a Mountaineer. He told me that the meters are very different. There are basically two brands. AC and TL. The AC mic as well as the TL can be run using the Term Pro software. It is Very hard to get a solid score on the new TL. And yes the AC will typically read anywhere from 6-8db lower than a TL mic. The TL is also a much better gauge of actual SPL than the AC. It has been designed specifically for the higher ranges of SPL. I related it too a vehicles speedometer that has a higher degree of inaccuracy the higher the speed. Not sure if that is a good analogy though. BTW, that guy was hitting a 152-154db with a box that was below the window line and just a pair of 12's. Sick I say. This conversation happened at 3AM. I hope I didn't mix any of the facts.
i was reading the graphs on the TL scores and i can see why the mic is very hard. also the audio control mics tend to me inconsistent at times because i was as much as 2db difference in peoples performance with no modifications done prior to the 2nd round of competing.
05-09-2005, 09:44 AM
#42
Originally Posted by filtor1
Oh and one more thing. SPL setups are not going to be the same in that the Street Beat or daily drivers may sound louder but almost never get good #'s in comparison. I had, in my 3rd gen, 3 Kicker solo 12's that wound pop out my sunroof. People egged me on to get it metered b/c it sounded louder than many of the other people that were going to compete. I caved. When I closed my car up and lined up against a guy with 2 old Sony 12's, no clue what model they were grey in cone color though, And he put down a 141 and I put down a 133. I spent 3K. He spent less than 1K. I would shake his car apart while he was in front of me. But he put up much higher #'s. Anyway the point, Just b/c you think your car is loud, doesn't mean the meter will be nice and give you a good score.
Manny: in the 130's for sure but please dont ever get metered because its addicting. now i want to buy a mic and just play around with moving the box around, different test tones, etc.
05-09-2005, 09:59 PM
#43
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Originally Posted by slickrick
exactly...low frequency output means nothing in spl comps.
Manny: in the 130's for sure but please dont ever get metered because its addicting. now i want to buy a mic and just play around with moving the box around, different test tones, etc.
Manny: in the 130's for sure but please dont ever get metered because its addicting. now i want to buy a mic and just play around with moving the box around, different test tones, etc.
If you're serious about getting the most SPL outa your sub, the first thing you should do is get an accurate transfer function for your car. That way you know what frequencies are being boosted the most.
I sorta glanced over most of this post, what did you use for source material.
too bad your're clear across the country from me or I'd lend you my amp.
05-10-2005, 12:28 AM
#45
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Originally Posted by slickrick
haha crushing my dreams eh? i used a 45 hz tone then i tried a 40-80hz sweep. i would like a US amp for sure.
You would easily have cracked 140 with a higher box tuning and playing around with the sub placement. But burping it with 2+KW woulda' been really cool.
05-10-2005, 12:37 AM
#46
oh yeah... if i removed my amprack which blocks the pass through in the max i know 140-141 would have been hit with ease. i still question people when they say "1 db isnt really audible". right when the amp rack was put it i noticed it wasnt as loud. i thought about building a box out of mdf and tuning it much higher and making it as big as i can for comp use only.
05-10-2005, 11:14 PM
#52
I just bought this....
http://mobileaudiocontrol.com/produc...50&l1=5250&l2=
I haven't installed it yet but I'm curious to see what my eclipse aluminum 15 will do. I'm thinking 140ish.
I'm not into spl either (mostly sq) but I still like loud bass especially if it's clean bass.
BTW US Amps or the ****. I have the tu-4360 tube amp powering some rainbow pro-van kick 3-ways and it sounds amazing to say the least. I had a usa-1000x but I sold it because it was black and my tu-4360 is chrome. Now I want to get a chrome usa-1000.
http://mobileaudiocontrol.com/produc...50&l1=5250&l2=
I haven't installed it yet but I'm curious to see what my eclipse aluminum 15 will do. I'm thinking 140ish.
I'm not into spl either (mostly sq) but I still like loud bass especially if it's clean bass.
BTW US Amps or the ****. I have the tu-4360 tube amp powering some rainbow pro-van kick 3-ways and it sounds amazing to say the least. I had a usa-1000x but I sold it because it was black and my tu-4360 is chrome. Now I want to get a chrome usa-1000.
05-11-2005, 07:57 PM
#56
Originally Posted by slickrick
i think you have a shot but you have 1 15 xxx ported at 35hz right with over 1.5k of power? my guess would be 138 but my guess has no real education behind it.
im hoping for it but i don't know if its gonna happen..
what hz should i play at? 45? 40? i know 50 is too high.
05-11-2005, 09:57 PM
#58
Realmofexcursion.com can make u a custom sweep. If u go to the download section, they have different sweeps u can download, but if they don't have it there i think u can post on the forum and they'll make u a custom sweep.
05-12-2005, 04:31 PM
#60
Originally Posted by Chitwista
The best thing to do, is to find out what is the best frequency for your setup and just burp your system at that particular tone. Bass sweeps will drain your voltage and could possibly post a lower score.
05-13-2005, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ShRapNeR
thats what i was going to do.. but 40 and 45 don't sound to dif to my ear...
05-17-2005, 11:17 AM
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Haha, i almost forgot what forum i was on and asked what car you hit 139 in lolol. I just ordered my av15 the other day. Its only gonna get 400watts from my monitor amp, but it should still pound. gonna do front firing/sealed of from trunk setup. for $225, you can't beat this sub.
05-17-2005, 11:38 AM
#70
Anyone on the .org have a box n place of the back seat yet? Somebody's gonna have to b able to say, I've got the loudest car on the .ORG". The way things r goin now its gonna turn out to b a contest. I'm getting a new enclosure built next week for my 12" H2 next week, since my current one doesn't have enough port area. It won't b long b4 i'll b posting a score.
05-17-2005, 12:07 PM
#71
haha i couldn't care less about whos loudest on the org...i know im way behind a few people. i actually did see 3 15 RE HC's in the back seat of a 2k merc gran marquis...it was interesting.
i actually did see 3 15 RE HC's in the back seat of a 2k merc gran marquis...it was interesting.
05-17-2005, 12:33 PM
#72
I'm seriously thinking about maybe 2 15" XXX...not an everyday system, and i could always just switch enclosures and put my back seat n. I've got enough power right now to push 1150 to each sub when i run my amp @ 1ohm. But its just a thought now...
05-17-2005, 07:16 PM
#78
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Originally Posted by slickrick
care to elaborate?
4 Memphis M-Class 12"
Custom Vented Box
500D Memphis Amp
Butt load of Dynamat
I will be upgrading to a 1100D amp with next year's tax return. Also, I hope I will be adding the Kenwood Navi/DVD H/U.
The nice thing is. With how I'm having everything wired up, when I stick that 1100D in... it'll be running @ 1ohm
1000 watts @ 12.8 constant volts. My charging system can easily handle that bigger amp. I would push for the amp's max rating of 1100 watts. but that's a costant 13.5, plus gain all the way up. I don't plan on pushing those subs that hard. For now I must suffer with the 500 watts. Hopefully everything will be finished by the end of next week. Depends upon when I get my money.
05-17-2005, 09:10 PM
#80
I really need to get a more efficent sub than my H2. To hear all of u guys talking about running 500-1000w just shows how more efficent everyone else's subs r. I think my current enclosure has a lot to do with it though. It just may b the loss of hearing over the yrs though, LOL. Ascendant really needs to get the Brahma metered...i wanna c what the single 12" can do. I like that most of ya'll guys r like me...1 sub...but enough to take ur breath away. Its always a good feeling when people ask u whats n ur trunk, u say 1 15" or 1 12", and the look on their face is priceless.