WTF is going on here? i go out for the night and come home to this nonsense??? bro honestly it goes both ways...if you don't give him respect and call him out...why should he even reply to you? why would he make up this stuff and sit here and continuouosly back it up? its not like he is ******* jL audio or anything...just giving some insight into how the dub 7 was started.

 

Thanks for the imput.

 

dude has his panties in a twist cause he can't accept the fact companies can build things for each other.

Audio Enhancers (AE) builds all of Memphis's boxes. whoopie doo that ID makes the W7 Honestly man, just give it up. Don has years of dealer and audio experience.

 

THE DON!!!! you dumb mortadella's gonna get clipped!

 

sweeeet so your tellin me i have what was planned too be JLs best woofer.... sounds good too me..... nahh i dunno, but non sense.... it doesnt matter....

 

I wouldn't say his panties were twisted, he was just asking for proof. I sent an email to JL Audio last night asking them for info regarding this subject. If and when they reply I'll share the results with everyone.

Tony

 

Another company building boxes for Memphis doesn't mean anything. It's just a box. ID doesn't make the W7 and they never did. You can't tell me that some guy can come on here, start making claims about one company actually producing a sub for another company...and then not having to back it up. It doesn't matter how much longer he's been on the board or anything, it all comes down to the fact that he can't back it up. So he calls on all of you to 'vouch' for him because what he always posts is 'factual'. He has no grounds for saying what he said. It's as easy as that.

 

there's a LOT more going on than consumers think behind the scenes of the industry. i wouldn't be surprised if this type of information wasn't even available, i mean i'm sure JL doesn't want everyone to know their dirty little secret

 

you really have your panties in a twist. a sub is a freaking sub man. Plus, we back him up because he has proven himself to have reliable information. And stuff like this happen before.

Look at the drama between Adire and Ascendant audio. here's even a link for you. http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=401369 One company using another's tech. So does ID make the W7... more than likely. Do I care? Nope, I'm a memphis fan.

have a great day getting bent out of shape over a manufacturer of a subwoofer. Jeez, people get **** about stupid $hit

 

this is getting interesting

 

very surprised this thread isnt locked yet. +1 that s regulars usually back Don up because he has proven himself in situations like this that happen before.

kevin

 

If I would have locked it, then some people would just say that Im avoiding it. Like posted above, theres tons of things that go on that general public isnt aware of. Theres a handful of buildhouses out there that manufacturer and/or design for other bigger companies. The issue between ID and JL was never meant to reach the public, as JL would of course look bad to them. Makes me wish I never made the statement to begin with. A letter or phone call to JL would of course never confirm it.
ID of course wouldnt confirm it either, being again it was never supposed to reach general public ears.

 

i think don's knowledge is overfilling his head...it's starting to leak out bit by bit...and stuff like this happens

 

I'm just holding myself back before I tell these to do something that would get me banned for a month or so.

 

Dont worry, if its informative and not a threat, you wont be getting banned at all.

 

oh it would be informative... and not really a threat... just a suggestion.

 

do people really think every company does R&D and makes their own subs? i like the this forum because people share everything they know...some is BS and some isn't. President Bush makes blanket statements with no "proof" some of the time, and yes people question him. unfortunately sometimes you have to believe what people say: IE WMD's in Iraq.

 

no it's a perfect point that you aren't seeing. A company is building a product for another company. Memphis has them put the Memphis logo on the box that AE builds for them.

give it up, companies don't have a perfect image. Especially JL.

 

they were there. we just happened to loose the nice long convoy of them

 

Just a newb question but what is "IE WMD's."

 

haha any for sale?

a WMD= my sub= weapon of mass destruction.

 

Weapons of Mass Destruction. You know... the biological and nuceular armanent that was supposed to be in the skuds they shot at us during the beginning.

It seems everyone forgot about that. It's easier to hide weapon's grade plutonuim in small cases than a skud missle.

 

 

not at this time. and you should know to think of a more quieter way to ask

 

i was trying to get the FBI on the org...

 

betrayed by a fellow orger.... oh the humanity.

 

You guys must be pretty bored?

 

Guys, I did not come on here to be an internet badass. Like I said, I saw this thread and wanted to chime in.

C'mon it was said that the w7 IS and ID sub...I just wanted to see a little more on this than what has been posted.

If the w7 was developed off of an idea that ID had back in the early 90s then that is one thing...but to say it "IS an ID sub" based on that is absurd...IF Image Dynamics had a hand in the w7 (don't know for positive...still waiting on confirmation) I would be willing to bet a substantial amount of anything that JL had a bigger hand in it.

IE...A Maxima IS a Ford because it is built on an assembly line...see what I am getting at...

And Pearl96Max...if you don't want to acknowledge me on here that is fine, and if you don't want to post the info you have, fine too. But, I really am curious about this so if you would be so kind as to respond to the e-mail I sent you Friday (couldn't pm because I am a NEWB) I would appreciate it.

On a sidebar: As someone removed from the inner-workings on this forum I find it funny that someone was giving someone else a hard time for being a "sheep following the heard" when that is EXACTLY what is going on here for most of the people that responded.

And finally...I never questioned Pearl96Max's experience or knowledge, I just wanted confirmation. You guys are right...I have no idea what kind of experience or longevity he has in the mobile electronics indusrty...then again...no one knows if I have any either. Thus...I am just a guy who wants some more info.

 

Tony

Thank you for not hopping on the "new guy has know idea who or what he is talking about" bandwagon. I appreciate you seeing the whole point of my post.

-Adam

 

i see your point...and i see you are not a fanboy...i also see how Don might not want to divulge exact details on the design/partnership between JL and ID. i believe he only mentioned it because someone was trying to be a fanboy and he wanted to show the "relationship" between the two.

 

Fair enough...but, you say something like that and don't be suprised if someone calls you on it. You never know who might be reading what you are saying.

 

exactly...

 

Interesting discussion.........

 

All of the info is out there, just not always easy to find. It was told to me many years ago by my rep and confirmed many times over with other reps and others in the manufacturing industry. Do I have it on paper? No, do I need it to be? No. Should I have posted it? No of course not.

With that being said, theres tons of others forums that can easily confirm this. If niave people want to believe that every manufacturer designs and builds their own products then so be it, but there is actually Very Few out there that do so. Theres actually a ton of buildhouses that manufacture for several companies at a time. Theres also several others that design for them. As well as many manufacturers that do OEM products and do not stamp their names on them for marketing purposes.

It all comes down to similiar situations like when noone believed the Arc amps to be a Zeff design, till it went public and many were dumbfounded and went and bought them over the slightly inferior, but more costly Zapcos.

What I do find interesting is that your on a Maxima forum, and the only thing you seem to post in is A/V/E. Do you even have a Maxima? Some specs on it? As Nothing is in your profile. Did you happen to just stumble across this thread in a search and decide to join?

BTW...What email?

 

I paruse a lot of different car forums. No, I do not own a Maxima. I have a Buick of all things (at least it is the supercharged one). I don't understand what specs you are asking about, Maxima specs? And yes, I stumbled onto this thread and decided to join. I sent an e-mail to the one in your profile on Friday because I could not pm you. I don't expect you to believe me here, but I am not niave about these things. Like I said...I have never heard this from anyone before and just want some hard confirmation.

 

I only have one thing to say on this point... I was not refering to you but refering to NCTRNL. And 2 I will refer to my own post

 

did the original question ever get answered? Just wondered.

 

Just got an email from Joseph Colasanti from JL Audio.

My question: "I have heard a "rumor" that the W7 subs were in fact originally manufactured by Image Dynamics. Since I am a big fan of both JL Audio and ID subs, I was wondering if you could please enlighten me. Thank you for any information you might provide."

His answer: "That's silly on many levels. #1 being that we have no manufacturing relationship with that company. The patents are all in our CEO's name and is a matter of public record."

Tony

 

i believe Don said designed by ID and they couldn't afford to produce it at that time... not produced by ID for JL.

 

Odd you should say that:

Now, it sounds to me like you have been proved wrong. I realize that you are going to keep up with the ambiguous defenses of things that you know. What you said is wrong. Simple as that.