Hi Guys!

I would like to get a sub and custom enclosure built under the rear deck in place of the Bose Woofer. I think the woofer is 7 inches but wanted to check with you guys. I would like to go with a JL Audio and keep it the same size as the Bose. Has anyone done anything like this?

Also, looking for feedback on Diamond D3 amps. Are they any good?
Thanks again

Steve

 

The JL 8W7 is an 8 incher and supposedly is extremely capable for it's size.

Diamond makes solid products. I have no experience wtih that amp, but I haven't heard anybody complain about any diamond products (not that i can remember).

Good products you're talking about here....how it turns out will depend on install from there.... Mounting an enclosure right up to a rear deck sounds like quite an install PITA to me. If it were me, I'd find an 8" that was suited for IB or infinite baffle use, seal any air leaks between your trunk and cabin, and mount it to the rear deck...Of course dampen the heck out of your rear deck too and use a nice thick baffle....To me this sounds easier than hanging a rear enclosure from the deck, but anything is doable wtih fabrication. I remember a guy named JLAINE on the forums had 2 12" Eclipse aluminiums firing through his rear deck, but had it built into a sealed enclosure a few years ago...

IB sounds simpler and takes up less space.....

 

Thanks for the input! So would the infinite baffle setup be the same as the Bose Sub I have now? Just trying to picture what this would look like. Also, do you know if JL makes an 8 inch for this application?

 

JL used to make a line of subs suited for IB. I would go ahead and recommend the Image Dynamics ID8 for it, but hey I'm biased and love that company. Any JL dealer, and they are everywhere, should know if they still have any subs avaliable that are recommended for IB use....

Ib would be the same as the bose...the sub just essentially hanging there from the rear deck (hopefully you do it a little more solid, and fill in any air holes between the cabin and trunk, but yes, it will essentailly just be hanging there.

Check out this thread that I butted into and recommended IB just like I am this thread. http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=416317

I did link to some pics of IB installs. I think the pics I linked to are "big" IB sub setups, but you'll get the point....Stiffen up that rear deck, block any airholes between trunk and cabin, and mount the sub there as solidly as possible....Personally, the "best" sounding sub setups I've heard have been IB installs....

 

Steve....Diamond D3 amps are actually Rob Zef designed amplifiers (the Z in ZAPCO, and head engineer for ARC AUDIO) Very good company. I've steered many friends to D3 amps, nothing but love stories...rock solid, reliable...

If you patiently surf the search tools- you will come across a member(or two) who built an enclosure under the rear deck to accomodate aftermarket sub. I recall seeing this been done a year or two ago.

 

I say don't even bother with IB, That rear deck isn't that strong and along with sealing up ALL air holes in the trunk, and dampening everything, you'll have to strenghthen the deck. Not worth it IMO. I say, just remove the stock woofer, leave teh grill there and either get a prefab sealed or ported box and stick it in the trunk, or fiberglass something nice into a nook.

 

True IB is a PITA install. I'd just say less of a PITA than mounting a sealed enclosure under there. The deck is weak...but so is a single 8 A nice big baffle can help.

But I agree....at the end of the day a little sealed box or little fiberglass enclosure is a simpler way to go....

Manny..cool to know...didn't know Zeff made those amps. I know of him well from Zap and Arc fame.

edit...ehh, the more I think of it, i guess it wouldn't be too bad to mount a little box up there....I just love IB i guess

 

Thanks for all the info. Have you heard anything about the CDT EF8? I've been told they can used in the same application.

 

I really think a baffled IB 8 in that rear deck with a nice dose of dampening could yield nice results- better than having a tiny lil' cube, cutely sitting in a corner of your trunk. IMO its simply not going to push much air and have as nice a response as it woul rolling off your rear windshield.

Its really not that hard, but would require effort nonetheless.

 

Agree and said well. Look into the ID8 I don't have any experience with the CDT8 so I can't help on that one. CDT is a "respected company" though. They have put out some decent stuff. But that ID8 can be had for under 100

 

the Arcv2 is an ID built sub...the only IB rear deck setup as of recent that i've seen Don put into a 6th gen Accord. Came out quite nice actually.

You just have to take into consideration how much depth is available under that Bose cutout to work with.

Here are pics of 'how to' as far as dampening the rear deck goes, illustrations give you an idea-courtesy of housecor..
http://www.innerbean.com/housecor/bose_deck_fix.html

Throwing an 8" in there is just a matter or cutting a 1/2 or 3/4" baffle out of wood/mdf- above or underneath the deck cutout(depending on clearance available) and throwing you 8" of choice in....

Do it!!!!!

 

Manny,

Thanks for the info on the D3. I think I'll be going with D3400.4 to run my components and rears.


Whitebread,

I wanted to keep all the space in my trunk without having an enclosure or box taking up space no matter how small. The more I think about it the more I want to go the IB route so that I could keep the stock look.


So far I've decided on the following:

Eclipse CD5435
MB Quart QSD 216
MB Quart Reference 5.25
Diamond D3400.4

Sub/Amp (still deciding)

CDT EF8
Image Dynamics ID8
Diamond D3600.1

Let me know what you guys think. Thanks

 

Taking into consideration that the D3 400.4 in actuality does a clean 70+rms per ch.....a bit more than rated....thats a good thing for those comps.
Also take into account the cost of dampening and wiring needs.

I noticed you stated you wanted to stay under $5k on the other thread for everything including install. Before you get **** raped, contact Don (Pearl96max) on this forum, hes a Diamond/Eclipse dealer and can give you an idea of what everything SHOULD cost you, and what labor on an install like that would be. Alot of those FL do nice work, but thats barely a show install and you should not have to pay for one considering nothing crazy custom is being done. Good luck.

 

AGREE....as I said in the other post, for that money you better be getting a WORLD CLASS install (hence the Audionutz).

$5k ....I'm still trying to get over that.

 

I would like to think you'd be under $3500 after install as a high rough estimate...def go into the shops with knowledge on what costs what.

 

SC2K1, The next State wide meet should be coming up. You will get a ton of ideas and product reviews there. Personally, I am a Diamond Audio fanatic. I have had great results from all the products I have bought. It sounds like IB is the way to go considering your perameters. 5K is very high for a single 8/IB with a non AVN HU. I will second calling Don. He has been very helpfull in my install. I wish I had a recommendation for the sub, but I have never gone that small before and have no experience in the IB world. Where in Tampa do you live. There are a ton of audio lovers there to use a references during the build. Are you going to DIY or have a shop install it for you. If you want it done locally, AVE in Clearwater is awesome. I hear they have one of the best box builders in the area. Another is Ultimate Audio in Orlando, they are high class, but very capable in meeting specific needs. Hopefully you will give it a shot yourself, there are a few people here that would be willing to help and learn along side you.

 

then send $200 to Manny and $200 to me for saving you money...just kidding...

Seriously though, he's right. Nothing about the install you want is so ***** out to require crazy custom work and the equiptment you're looking at is high end IMO but not in that super high price range (Tru/Brax amps, Genesis Speakers....). Your system should sound AWESOME at well under $5k.

Do tell the installer to go to town dampening, though Thats worth spending a few hundred on

 

<---world class FL installer who will install stuff Don/anyone sells you for cheaper than anywhere else

Ok, I dont know about world class, but itll be at least as good as any shop in Tampa, unless they are doing fiberglass or something intricate. I can pretty much do 5th gens with my eyes closed.

/shameless plug

 

Thanks a lot for all the great info guys!!!! I'll be shopping around to get some prices this weekend. Once I get everything together I'm gonna get in touch with Don and see what he says. I would like to try to do the install myself but I can't afford the downtime it would take me to learn so I plan on getting an installer. I'll keep you guys posted. Thanks again.

 

filtor1,

I'm over by the New Tampa/Wesley Chapel area. I'll have to check AVE this weekend. Thanks

 

Cool. If you do change your mind about paying a shop to install it, let me know. Kevin and I would be glad to help. It would only be a day job with three of us. And as far as pricing goes, I have yet to find someone who can hang with Don.

 

Off the top of my head just for the HU and amps youd be Under a G. Ill have to pull out my MBQ sheets to see cost on those as theres not a high demand for them much around here. Better can be had for the money, but Im sure you already auditioned them and liked what you heard and thats what matters..

 

BTW Steve...got your PM, Ill be replying shortly.

 

Did you foget the New TL that I did with the 5150XXK or Caseys 5.5gen?

 

Don, thanks! The MB Quarts sound the best to me so far but I'll be auditioning some more stuff this weekend so that may all change.

 

If you liked the Q's, try to listen to the Focal K2's and even the Diamond D6 (alum or silk option) for comparison. It sounds like you like detailed, analitical sounding components.....metal dome seems for you.

 

Manny,

Thanks for the suggestions I'll definitely try to sample them this weekend. My biggest priority with my system is SQ. I want to be able to hear every note but not necessarily at the loudest setting. I've always had metal tweeters in all of my components so I do enjoy the sound.

 

filtor1 and kpr10is,

check your PM when you get a chance. Thanks

Steve

 

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