Eclipse poops on Pioneer Again...
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Eclipse poops on Pioneer Again...
For the N2 fans, you could always wait for the Eclipse AVN7000. Which of course lives up to all of Eclipse higher quality standards as well as having all the typicals..CD/DVD/MP3 and an onboard 20G HD & Memory Stick Duo. This would of course not be a double as I stated comparing to the N2s, but is a flipout with detachable panel with front display while the unit is closed.
Of course this is an All in one unit. No hideaway brain crap.
Of course this is an All in one unit. No hideaway brain crap.
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Still of course ahead of Pioneer with their 24 bit DACs,5V/55Ohm preouts.
Although when adding the DCU105 Audio Video Matrix things change up a bit...
Parametric Pro mode
Crossover Pro
Time alignment
DTS 5.1
Dolby Digital II
All useable with the E-iServe network as well.
Although when adding the DCU105 Audio Video Matrix things change up a bit...
Parametric Pro mode
Crossover Pro
Time alignment
DTS 5.1
Dolby Digital II
All useable with the E-iServe network as well.
Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
Still of course ahead of Pioneer with their 24 bit DACs,5V/55Ohm preouts.
Although when adding the DCU105 Audio Video Matrix things change up a bit...
Parametric Pro mode
Crossover Pro
Time alignment
DTS 5.1
Dolby Digital II
All useable with the E-iServe network as well.
Although when adding the DCU105 Audio Video Matrix things change up a bit...
Parametric Pro mode
Crossover Pro
Time alignment
DTS 5.1
Dolby Digital II
All useable with the E-iServe network as well.
I didn't know eclipse had more than one 24 bit dac??
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Just to specify with the "pro" modes...The HU itself has timealignment,PEQ,etc. When used with the DCU105 it adds a bit more in terms of an adjustable Q with 3 steps of narrow to wide. Auto timealigment by vehicle size,speaker size,etc. Also has aligment compatible with 3 way fronts. Adjustable crossover slopes in 6/12/18/24.
Appears to me a be all end all Navi/DVD unit for audiophiles...
Appears to me a be all end all Navi/DVD unit for audiophiles...
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Originally Posted by 505max94se
Are you talking about pioneer in general or are you talking about pioneer's screen?
I didn't know eclipse had more than one 24 bit dac??
I didn't know eclipse had more than one 24 bit dac??
sorry its habit when typing I add the 's' on DAC.
Its actually "Advanced" 24 bit DAC.
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Originally Posted by MrGone
something is missing 
where are the pics

where are the pics

Although anyone coming down in the near future can sneak a few pics.
Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
Comparing to the AVIC-N2.
sorry its habit when typing I add the 's' on DAC.
Its actually "Advanced" 24 bit DAC.
sorry its habit when typing I add the 's' on DAC.
Its actually "Advanced" 24 bit DAC.That screen sounds bad a$$. All that in a single din plus no extra brain
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Originally Posted by 505max94se
I LOVE eclipse but it doesn't come close to the p9.
That screen sounds bad a$$. All that in a single din plus no extra brain
That screen sounds bad a$$. All that in a single din plus no extra brain

No but pretty damn good considering NAVI/DVD/Screen.

The P9 combo is hands down a great unit, as well as the Clarion 9255. But Ill stick to analog outboard processing.
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Originally Posted by shurik
Looks cheap to me!!!!! Bad design. Too plane.
Sorry Eclipse believes in function over form, not the other way around. Doesnt make it a "bad design" just not to your taste. Although PLEASE show me something better.
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Originally Posted by 03MajesticMax
Does anyone make a 2din navi w/ detachable monitor?... I want that eclipse but i am crazy paranoid!!!
No as well as I highly doubt they will.
Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
Yes it is. I see you found the japanese pics.
Sure did, just can't understand a darn thing
.As for the looks, I think it's ok. Pretty cool to have all of those features built inand without the need for a brain install somewhere else.
I think it looks very classy. Refined in comparison to their other lines. One thing I do not like is the long line of features listed to the bottom left of the screen. It takes your eyes tward that side. That would be my only cosmetic judgement. I would want one.
I just saw the pics/catalog for this thing yesterday. "poop" is an understatement. This thing kicks everything I've seen out of the water. 1.8inch hard drive...same size that Ipods use, and sooo many other cool features.
I just think its amazing how they fit it all in one unit. I can only imagine how dense it is in there.
Don, get back to my phone calls man...
I just think its amazing how they fit it all in one unit. I can only imagine how dense it is in there.
Don, get back to my phone calls man...
Originally Posted by maxgtr2000
It sucks if it has no detachable face...just kidding. Hold on to your receipts for insurance purposes boys.
I know you guys praise Eclipse > to any other car A/V companies especially Pioneer. But there prices tend to be higher and they appear more exclusive than pioneer. I mean you can find pioneer at most shops where Eclipse seem to be less common.
What are the sales comparisons like?
Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
The AVN7000 will be MSRP at about $2500. Just below the AVN5495
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-OIfx7LU...0&I=099AVN5495
Originally Posted by Progress
Make sure to get it insured.
I know you guys praise Eclipse > to any other car A/V companies especially Pioneer. But there prices tend to be higher and they appear more exclusive than pioneer. I mean you can find pioneer at most shops where Eclipse seem to be less common.
What are the sales comparisons like?
I know you guys praise Eclipse > to any other car A/V companies especially Pioneer. But there prices tend to be higher and they appear more exclusive than pioneer. I mean you can find pioneer at most shops where Eclipse seem to be less common.
What are the sales comparisons like?
I also wonder about the sales differential. I assume Pioneer would be in the lead as the internet sales and the market saturation. You can pick up a Pioneer deck just about anywhere. And don't forget the pretty dolphins.
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Originally Posted by Progress
No I did mean just BELOW. Thats Crutchfields price, I said about $2500MSRP. AVN5495 is $2699MSRP.
that's what I thought.
Originally Posted by filtor1
I think it looks very classy. Refined in comparison to their other lines. One thing I do not like is the long line of features listed to the bottom left of the screen. It takes your eyes tward that side. That would be my only cosmetic judgement. I would want one.
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