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Old 12-14-2005, 05:25 PM
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most bass w/o a sub

i really got sick of having a sub in my trunk so i took it out,

just wanted to know what kind of speakers that would fit in the stock locations of the maxima (i have a 96 - 4th gen) and give me the most thump w/o having a box in the back.

a component system would offer the most bass? some one please advise me

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Old 12-14-2005, 05:28 PM
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Old 12-14-2005, 05:33 PM
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Those or some of the Tang Band 6.5 "subs"..of course if you're going to do that, it's not really hard to upgrade and squeeze some 8's, 10's or even 12's back there in teh rear deck IB (without a box). I know it seems drastic to some but it's not really that.
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You will not get bass like a sub out of any speaker smaller than an 8 inch. And that probably not unless you have it setup right.

If you invest in the right speakers/amp combo's you can pull off some good midbass. With the right x-over frequencies you can amplify the right frequency's and pull off what you're looking for.
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Old 12-14-2005, 05:39 PM
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yeah, i know i wont get the same bass with 6.5" speakers or watever the size is in the back...

kevlo911... you posted pictures without posting any text? is that a sub?



nismos14... what good speakers are there for the midbass then? and what frequencies?
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Old 12-14-2005, 05:41 PM
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we need a budget badly...
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Old 12-14-2005, 05:43 PM
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sorry ok, well i was thinking bout getting 4 replacement speakers (im fine with my denon tweeters) and amp the 4 speakers if anything.

im willing to spend $400-500 at most ... so $100 each speaker? hehe

and also for a 'budget' version of $200...
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Mb quart's can produce nice clean midbass when x-over'd properly. Diamond, Rainbow, Dls, Dynaudio, Focal, there's a good amount of speakers that can be used for very good midbass response. Frequencies between 80/100-400 hz are what you want to work on. Anything below 80 hz is subwoofer territory.
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Old 12-14-2005, 05:45 PM
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i recommend some RE XXX mids or some adire mids for some solid bass. regardless of the mids you pick...set aside time and $ for deadening the front doors. it is worth it.
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Do you already have an amp? If so what kind, how much power etc.
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Old 12-14-2005, 05:46 PM
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the amp is hot garbage, i got it for free from my friend... its alphasonic

im gon buy an amp for the speakers what are some good amps? im such a newbie when it comes to audio. thanks for all the quick replies
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what company is RE?
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We also need an amp budget
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Old 12-14-2005, 05:53 PM
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how are these speakers?

Audiobahn ABC6003N
http://www.cardomain.com/item/ABNABC6003N?vq_id=none

Kenwood KFC-P705ie
http://www.cardomain.com/item/KENKFCP705IE?vq_id=none

Polk Audio db Series db6750
http://www.cardomain.com/item/POLDB6750?vq_id=none
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alright amp no more than $100, that shud be more than sufficient enough for the 4 speakers right? i dont really need my ears to bleed
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Resonant Engineering...
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The polks are the only decent ones of that group IMHO. I would definately look into other speakers instead though. Like the ones I mentioned.
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Um $100 for an amp is not going to be suffiecient. Give us an overall budget on what you want and how much you're willing to spend then we can go from there.
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Old 12-14-2005, 05:56 PM
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===> $500 for everything <===

the pictures of that elemental designs sub... thats the Eu-700?
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i definetly would get diamonds, i had s600 comps and its nearly impossible to get decent midbass from them.
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Yes thats the eu-700 those are verywell priced. Most people on this board though will say to stay away from Elemental Designs. That budget for just speakers would be okay but for a 4 channel amp and 4 speakers you're looking at more like the $700-800 range AT LEAST.
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Originally Posted by CreativeDesignz
i definetly would get diamonds, i had s600 comps and its nearly impossible to get decent midbass from them.

So why would he want them if its impossible to get decent midbass from them?
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Old 12-14-2005, 06:00 PM
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hmm how bout for not as nice of a set of 4 speakers and a 4 channel amp? im looking at the companies you suggested, which is the cheap(er) of them all?

the eu-700 looks nice, and the RE xxx ones look good too
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Old 12-14-2005, 06:04 PM
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i just checked adire, they don't make any "subs" that fit into the stock locations.

i dont know who makes the s600... so diamonds are good too creativedesignz?
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i do believe its the extremis mids...
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S600's are Diamond components.
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What kind of source unit are you running?
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Old 12-14-2005, 06:35 PM
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i have for sale an amp that does 75x4 for 90+shipping, its a decent amp will work great for what you are doing... its a Total Mobile Audio T4404
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STOCK HEAD UNIT! woohoo...
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Where'd you buy that from adampit?
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Old 12-14-2005, 06:45 PM
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the 6.5" components that ascendant audio will release looks promising

not sure on price though.
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Old 12-14-2005, 06:57 PM
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what size speakers can fit in the car?

im looking at the eu-700 and their going for $50 (35 off the reg price of 85) on the site right now!
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Yup those will only fit in the rear deck. so $100 for the rear fill leaves you with $200 for the amp and $200 for the front stage.
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so 7" can fit in the rear? i thought the speaker size was 6.5" for all 4?
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Ya 7 will fit. It's basically the same jstu the mounting spots are a lil bigger. You have to drill new holes to mount that ED.
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oohh... i dun like the sound of drilling. how much drilling would have to be done?

what are the speaker sizes for just 'drop in' installations?

6.5" in the front AND rear?

the eu-650 will drop right in, correct?
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4 holes to mount it. Yes 6.5 all around.
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Old 12-14-2005, 07:39 PM
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how big are these holes? i dont really like the sound of drilling, but if its something that even a newbie can do, then ill do it. is there a installation guide to do this?
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No, you just mark the holes with a marker or soemthing and then drill.
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You drill 4 new screw holes.
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