0 gauge split to 2 4gauge

one amp wont turn on (directed one), the other goes immediately into protect mode.

RCA's are not hooked up, neither are speaker wires. just power, ground and remote turn on.

JL e4300 btw, and a directed 350d

just throw ideas out there, im absolutely stumped

(this is an install im doing right now, im baffled and the kid is probably very upset)

 

Are the amp new or used? Does he know or you know that they are both good amps, bench tested?

Try hooking them both up independant of each other. Check them both.

 

Some amps go directly into protect mode if no inputs/outputs are detected

 

Did you use a relay on your remote turn on??? You might want to try that....

 

How would that help?

I'm quite sure Nilesh would have considered that before asking for help, he is quite the capable installer.

 

Turns out it was the amp itself.

I started off using a relay but then noticed that the supposed remote turn on didn't infact do its job correctly, so I just tapped ignition right off of the main harness under the steering column.

3-4 hours of troubleshooting and I all my wiring was right on the entire time. I could have been with my girl or bowling with Don. asdjhdfjhgsdgf

grrrr.

thanks all for the help

 

ah sucks to hear

 

No worries, Gordon. Just another example why its best to purchase from authorized dealers.

 

Damn, man. Sorry to hear.

 

Happens. Just glad its done with.

So, gentlemen, what's on the postwhore agenda for tonight?

 

yup, yup 10+ hours spent in my garage for pretty much nuttin...

 

+1 to that.

it's not friday yet

 

Most of the day was productive, just the last few hours were a waste.

And, technically it IS friday.

 

But a few hours that could have been spent doing something more enjoyable...

 

BTW Nilesh you left $20 here, come get it whenever.

 

are u stupid? When connecting more than 1 amp, you are supposed to use a relay with the remote turn on wire.

Maybe you should ready 12volt forums once in a while....or ask any pro installer.

 

Hey Newb, why would You call someone else stupid with false info? Cmon Igor, you should know better than that.

 

so can we turn this into a post ***** thread? which amp was the messed up one?

 

O ummm I also asked a "pro" he said its fine.

I love talking to myself....

 

The JustLousy

 

i'm running two amps with no relays on the remote wire...no issues here...

 

sure it's fine but best with a relay...

 

Gordon, you shouldnt. According to Igors theory you must have a relay for more than One amp. Im assuming this refers to Any amps used as well, despite their turn on capabilities.

 

According to who???? Its not gonna make a bit of difference. 12V is 12V no matter how you spin it.

You do realize your fighting an uphill battle here right?

 

http://www.teamrocs.com/technical/pa...lay_basics.htm

Just one of the many pages found on google. If you keep splitting a single 12v source, it's bound to lose current down the line.

 

A relay would have been used if we didn't use a high current source.

The Blose factory turn on wire is weak, yes.

Don the $20 is yours.

Looks like Don already got started on the whoring

 

i knew it was the JL...arguing with Don is like competing in the special olympics, even if you win you're still retarded.

 

Dude, the money is yours. I read the note with it and dont care. Its YOUR money. So take it Bish

 

So when it loses current enough to not be able to turn on an amp, throw a relay in. No problems with two amps here, and I could probably get a third too.

 

so no harm when NOT using the relay eh? both my amps turn on just fine. and each one is getting ~12 volts when i checked

 

It was a JL e4300.

 

When I had just 2 it was fine also. But when I got 3, I noticed that each was getting less voltage. To stay safe in the long-run, I used a relay. Now each of the amps gets almost equal power.

To sum it up, yes...its fine to not use 1 but it's always better to have 1.

 

Hmmm.. dont need to read it its common knowledge. ALthough in YOUR words....

KEEP SPLITTING I dont see any of that with TWO amps. But hell what do I know?

 

And if you had amps that had a slower turn on this wouldnt be a problem. I always did love the POP on with PG Octanes.

 

I have 0 problems with any of the PG amps. They turn on just fine.

 

Turn on capabilities play a factor as well. Rule of thumb for me is adding a relay with more than 2 amps. Especially some of the cheaper ones with a faster turn on. 3+ amps all quickly drawing that current will typically leave your remote output lifeless. Hence the need for a relay.

 

Im sure they do, Very quickly.

 

Ooooo you gonna ban him for that? I thought you were gonna ban me for my post in Avi's thread!

 

interesting thread...

how much power does an amp usually need on the remote wire to turn on?

 

Ugh. I'm only turning on an LCD, DVD Player, Arc Audio 4150/2500XXK, and an AltoMobile Drive 30 with no issues whatsoever. So where does it start losing current, then? That looks like a hefy equipment list to me.