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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 05:49 PM
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Later tonight can work, anytime cuz I'll be out and about so give me a call you know the #, or pm me for it. I do understand man. I just should have picked up the other day when I came over. Don't mean to be a pest. But now that the soundstream is sold I need something to replace it you know?
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 06:14 PM
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Cant_Get_Ryte
i should make that my sig

I just don't know how to take that, yet I still laugh at it
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 06:39 PM
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Alright so I just read all 7 pages of this thread and it sounds like a few of you are in a similar situation as myself. So i got new sony 52x4W headunit for my max which is BOSE. It came with the PAC (the adaptor with the gain controls) and an antenna adapator. I installed it crimped/wirenutted all the wires etc, the only problem is the sound is horribly distorted. The bass is gone and overall the sound is really tinny (if thats even a word).

Also the volume is barely audible from volume settings 0-20 (out of 34) and gets more distorted as it increases to a decent level (25-30) and goes into the range of unlistenable because of major distortion at 30-34 the upper range of the volume controls.

Have any of you had this problem when replacing the bose HU but leaving the bose speakers and amps? I tried adjusting the gain controls on the PAC adaptor but it didnt seem to help the distortion problem much only increase the volume so i left it at the lowest setting.

AHH help Im losing patience with this stupid bose system. what can be done?!?!

Old Dec 26, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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You already have amplification from the sony unit. Just replace the 4 speakers, run new wire and be done with it.
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 06:49 PM
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replace the 4 speakers? I thought there were 6...

I dont remember what page it was on but someone said something something, with the new headunit it will sound better than with the bose... was that just utter bullsheet?
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 06:50 PM
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You already have amplification from the sony unit. Just replace the 4 speakers, run new wire and be done with it.
But it looks like he wants to keep the Bose.
Instead of spending more money, it would probably be better to figure out why the problem is occurring.
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 06:51 PM
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No it wasn't. But it seems that something in your pac may be causing distortion or in your wiring.

Okay let me rephrase, replace the 4 bose speakers and tweeters.
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by nosidetrips
replace the 4 speakers? I thought there were 6...

I dont remember what page it was on but someone said something something, with the new headunit it will sound better than with the bose... was that just utter bullsheet?
No, when done right, it should sound better than before.
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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and im not an audiophile or a bass junky, I dont really want to drop 500 bucks on new speakers and all that, I just want it to be listenable, maybe 80% of the sound quality I had with the original BOSE would be a goal?
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But it looks like he wants to keep the Bose.
Instead of spending more money, it would probably be better to figure out why the problem is occurring.

This is true. Any suggestions on what to check with his wiring. I suggested replacing it all bc its the easiest, although more expensive way to get it done if someone has less experience working the bose into the aftermarket headunit.
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 06:54 PM
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Have you tried re-wiring it?
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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I was considering taking it into a shop or car toys or something but I was just hoping there was a quick fix or some common problem... :-/ anyone know who might do good work with bose systems?
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 06:57 PM
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1. Sure everything is wired correctly? Wire with black stripe is negative.
2. Turn EVERYTHING down. Including all the gains, all the EQ of the HU
3. Turn one thing at a time back up.
Does anyone have suggestions of how high the gains of the PAC should be? I've never used one

Sounds almost like something is turned way up, causing distortion.
Process of elimination here....
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by djfrestyl
Sounds almost like something is turned way up, causing distortion.
Those were my thoughts, and that's even considering I don't know much about audio...
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Tatanko
Those were my thoughts, and that's even considering I don't know much about audio...
You're learning, young lad
How did yours go?
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 07:05 PM
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The pac from what I understand uses high level inputs, so its already working with a exponentially greater input than low level rca inputs. Maybe the head unit has a source level adjustment or an attenuator built in... that could help.

What kind of distortion are you getting? Is it from too much bass? Or is it an overall distortion?
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 07:06 PM
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does anyone know the "correct way" to adjust the gain controls on the pac? should the volume on the headunit be low, high, in the middle?? Im assuming eq all set to 0... any other suggestions?

Im already planning on checkin the wiring in the morning and doin some diagnostic stuff wen its light out..
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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Can't go wrong with dead center.
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 07:10 PM
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the distortion is overall, but what i really dont understand is why the bass levels seem to be much lower in relation to the mids/highs than before... even with the eq adjusted for maximum bass and minimum highs it only seems to decrease the oveall volume and there is no noticable difference in bass level.

ive been tryin it with lynch and project pat and that little 6x9 bump is definately gone.. :-/
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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I would set the headunit to 1/2 - 3/4's. Go from there.
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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Nismo, you have been very busy today . I read 6508 posts earlier, and now 6555. You're on fire .
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Interesting, which sony headunit are u using?
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Lol I just have way too much time on my hands man. WAY TOO MUCH.
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by djfrestyl
You're learning, young lad
How did yours go?
Mine won't even get here til next week probably. I ordered both wiring harnesses yesterday, bought the DIN pocket off of nismos14 today, and my headunit is supposed to be shipped out tommorrow as well.
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Well that's if you can get him away from his computer and his mad posting skills .
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I think after this thread you won't have any problem at all Tatanko lol.
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Originally Posted by 1996blackmax
Well that's if you can get him away from his computer and his mad posting skills .

Remember Don combined some of my threads and deleted some posts so I have more than that under my belt today Nismos14 <---
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 07:19 PM
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Its a sony CDX GT-200 http://www.crutchfield.com/S-CxbX9eM...asp?i=158GT200

I got it for christmas because my bose HU had that CD ERR / Display error thing goin on.
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 07:24 PM
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Sounds like a wiring issue. If any of the speaker leads are out of phase this can happen. Ive never used a PAC unit and I never will. Never had a complaint from a customer, especially when theyre saving $50+.
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Originally Posted by nismos14
I would set the headunit to 1/2 - 3/4's. Go from there.

1/2 - 3/4 volumes??
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 07:28 PM
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1/2 - 3/4 volumes??

Check wiring first. Then set all "processing" to zero. Then the PAC to almost zero. Try it then and adjust accordingly.
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 07:41 PM
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I think after this thread you won't have any problem at all Tatanko lol.
If I do, I'm hunting all of you down


I still have djfrestyl's phone #, too, so I'm good...
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 07:44 PM
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If I do, I'm hunting all of you down
I can give ya my address if yad like.


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I still have djfrestyl's phone #, too, so I'm good...

So you think.
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 07:46 PM
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Jeez, tryin to take everyones confidence down tonight? Heading out soon, I guess I'll just call ya tommorow Don.
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 07:50 PM
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Jeez, tryin to take everyones confidence down tonight? Heading out soon, I guess I'll just call ya tommorow Don.

Nah he knows Im playing with him.
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So you think.
What'd you do, sneak over here and delete it from my phone?
Old Dec 26, 2005 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
Sounds like a wiring issue. If any of the speaker leads are out of phase this can happen. Ive never used a PAC unit and I never will. Never had a complaint from a customer, especially when theyre saving $50+.

so the speaker leads could get out of phase by connecting like a + to a - or a green with white stripe to a green or something like that? Is that what you mean by wiring issue, or something more like an incomplete contact or bad wire??

im a little confused on what i should be looking for when i get in there in the morning..
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im a little confused on what i should be looking for when i get in there in the morning..
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