Yea but with some bad choices, a processor can hurt a system more than help it.

 

Ya boston's aren't that bad, but theres definately better out there for the price. Of course Don, you're right about the processor, and to add on to that, his "pro" installer friends tune of it.

So Don, is there any leftovers on the ACS's, how much different will the non Rainbow version be as far as quality, etc.?

 

Leftovers? I told theyve been gone for months.

What "non Rainbow" version? Are you referring to the KARs?

 

I could have sworn you mentioned that the ACS's were still going to be made, just no longer by Rainbow? Or are they just going to have a new line for the new year?

 

Itll be completely different. Rainbow *may still make them. They wont be available for quite some time.

 

Oh alright thanks for the info.

 

Ok I mentioned the the Rainbow comps and the first thing he said was " you ain't playing " He says Seas is the company that makes drivers for Rainbow Audio. The mid bass has some of the most detailed and accurate midrange and mid bass performance out there. Another mentioned was Dynaudio MKII I think and DLS Iridiums. Another was the Focals Utopia but after all day of reading reviews this is what it came down to.

Seas RS165A Set $575.00 If you guys can get it cheaper let me know.
For the Rear Seas PS165F set $330
Powered by. PPI DCX 600.4

I still got my eyes set on the Two 12" SI Mag D2's
Powered by. PPI DCX-1500.1

Sound deadening: Stinger Roadkill

The EQ he says has to be 30band+ ? because the ref's require fine tuning for the music I'm going to be playing. Any suggestions on EQ's for the Ref's?

This is what I have so far and it's still within my budget so far.

 

Oh and what about Mmats DREADNAUT12" 1000 watt
SPL Champs at DB drag 05'. with two 12's
Word on the street down here is that these subs are really good ofcourse I never heard of them...

 

haha nice. i would be much less concerned with the rears than the fronts...put most of the $ towards the front components. i like the sub choice although I have not personally ever heard those subs.

 

Rainbow made by SEAS?? LMFAO

 

correct...on the pros i wouldnt run the rallies

 

incorrect on the build of the rainbows. Seas makes some good STUFF, as youve noted. For the component price of 575 get with don, im sure he can touch that line if i remember correctly. In either case the speakers chosen are a cut above the previously listed.
As for the subs, those SI subs are awesome. THe dreadnauts I havent heard but I have been witness to the Jugs (juggernauts). Not SQ oriented but GOOD LORD. Lowd. Depends on what your going for really. I would say the stereo integrities, an adire brahma, sound splinter rlp 15s come to mind as well. Goto realm of excursion dot com and check out the video of the brahma snapping that guys a pillar...Alright tearing. As well they are incredibly/suprisingly sq oriented as well...supposedly.
And look at the flatlines

 

yeah, the brahma's are damn accurate and can still get quite loud. no word on the new brahma's yet. Dan said the new editions will perform the same as the older mark II and I, although the VC diameter went down from 3" to 2.5".

 

kicker solo x. if you want crazy bass this is the way to go. they're pretty heavy though about 70-100lbs, but they have mind blowing bass, 10,000 watts

 

^ not for use really as a DD.

 

Just got off the phone with SEAS indeed they never made drivers for Rainbow. He says there was confusion back 5or8 years ago that they did only because back then they had a partenership but never made anything for rainbow only knowlege was exchanged.

 

Theoretically Seas is the largest OEM parts maker and production speaker making equipment in the world...They have relationships with many companies worldwide...

Rainbow is about the only company i've heard of that employ 4 different vehicles in its R&D department for speaker testing/product evaluation..

 

Ordered the Seas and D2's I'm soo anxious, I can't wait till they get here.

 

160db for 2k, LMFAO

I'm sorry man but this is the funniest **** I've seen in a while....and for future reference, please buy from Don. He carries some/most of the BEST brands in car audio PERIOD (unbiased, educated FACT), he hooks people up, and does very clean installs (from the pics I've seen)

 

Yeah that sounds great but so far I don't think Don can beat the deal my boy is giving me.

Total budget not including the subs.

Pioneer Car AVH-P7600DVD $1200.00 not sure on this but the HU will be over $1k

Seas RS165A Set $575.00

For the Rear Seas PS165F set $330

PPI DCX-1500.1 $465.00

PPI DCX 600.4 $365.00

Includes Sound deadening Roadkill $$$???

External EQ $$???

Complete Install of all these items including Custom Box.

That's a total of $2635.00 All the other stuff that has ?? marks I have no idea how much they cost but it's included. So it's actually way over $3000.00 est..

All for $2000.00 plus $660.00 for the D2 Subs

Grand Total of what came out my pocket so far for a complete Setup $2660.00

If you read the rest of the thread you will see what I'm actually spending but here it is as of right now. Don has not provided his price for the things I'm getting so who knows???

 

What do you guys thinkabout my setup so far??
If it wasn't for you guys I'll prob end up with the usual crap that's out there..
Thanks
Freddy..

 

are you getting 2 sets of components?

 

I don't understand your ?
What I have listed is what Seas recommended..

 

Seas RS165A Set $575.00

For the Rear Seas PS165F set $330

what the are specs for those products? $330 for rear coaxials is a crime.

 

FRONT

The RS165A / F set contains:

2 x RW165. 165mm High End Automotive Woofers.
2 x RT25A / F. 25mm High End Automotive Tweeters.
2 x RX1,7H High Pass Crossover.
2 x RX1,7L Low Pass Crossover.
2 x Lengths of Special O.F.C Tweeter Cable.
1 Pair of Handling Gloves.
1 Set of Mounting Hardware.

REAR



The PS165F set contains:

2 x PW165. 165mm Woofers.
2 x PT25F. 25mm Tweeters.
2 x PX2,5 Crossover Networks.
2 x Lengths of Special O.F.C Tweeter Cable.
Set of Mounting Hardware.

I called them to confirm what I was getting here it is.

 

http://www.mobilesq.com/store/

 

As I menitoned before... you are in fact going to run 2 sets of components which I think is redundant and cumbersome at best. I say get some coaxials for the rear and not components. many people on here will tell you no rear fill but if you have passengers it is not a bad idea to have coaxials back there.

 

The first time I called mobile with my boy we asked them to give us the best stuff you got front and rear. This is it. I know what your saying but I want my Sh%t loud man. I don't care if anyone is going to sit back there or not but if you happen to sit in the back or front it should be crazy.
Like I said earlier a killer setup.

IMO from what seas tells me what I'll get out of the mid and highs is awesome.
Form Stereo Integrity Bass should be ridiculous = for me big happy face
Now all that's left is to make sure my boy tunes it right and installs it correctly which I have complete trust in him doing a good job.

 

good luck. but remember this...you SHOULD be building a system for your ears, not to impress your friends or to get attention from girls. basically: put that $330 towards an ever better frontstage and amp for the front stage for your ears to enjoy, rather than other people. but in the end, either way your system will be loud.

 

Thanks slickrick you have been very helpfull through out this thread even tho others thaught I was a joke and provided 0 input. Audio isn't my thing so I appreciate it. I'll deff post pics when it's done..

 

It's all about the girls man.. J/K

 

Wow so basically if its not tuned right you're going to end up with an overbearing rear setup. I would REALLY REALLY consider going with a coaxial or even just a mid in the rear.

Or just spend less on a set of coaxials. You don't need comps in the back. coaxials will get plenty loud in the rear. I think for the amout your spending you could have gotten a killer setup from Don, although the installation would not be there unless you drove up here. If I had that much money, he's the first person I'd contact about getting my system setup.

 

I respect your opinion but I don't know this guy one bit. Second I only wanted my boy to do the job. He does know allot about car audio maybe not every single audio stuff like "DON" but he does quality work and has lots of experience and he owes me the favor..

I'm sure "Don" would have also given me a killer setup but not for $2660.00. Including install and that's everything listed.. Don can elaborate more on this himself, I'm fine with that.

I asked Seas Specifically if I should go coaxial rear he says, that it won't sound as loud as if I get the rear set comps. So he suggested the lower performance set to not over power the fronts.

I still don't see anything wrong with using comps in the rear. Only that it will sound crazy loud and crisp just like I want it.

 

Its all good. You dont need to know me. The feedback speaks for itself. 100s of members cant be wrong. 17+ years in the field also adds to my credibility.

Ive actually done systems for less than that, that went on to complete.

Pioneer A/V HU IMO...complete waste for an SQ setup.

The amps you chose, could be Alot better.

Proper processing for an SQ setup using speakers at the calibre of SEAs could be quite costly, and I dont even see that in there.

Rear components...Say goodbye to proper imaging and any Judge would drop your points like a fly on his food.

 

word up...not to mention the "lower" components might play louder on less power thus negating "the not as loud" theory by using the cheap set of components in the back. everyone loves to have their "boys" do stuff, but you claim you want 160 db for cheap and we are just here to help you out, and realize what is going on with the audio system you are putting in.

 

Ok cool I can always change my setup.

Help me out here the speakers are a done deal tho Seas front and rear Two D2's rear.

The HU I just through that out there cause that's what my boy suggested something like that is what I should be looking to get. TV DVD MP3...
What should I be getting??

On the amps what do you suggest then? There at his shop I still have time to change.


Rear components...Say goodbye to proper imaging and any Judge would drop your points like a fly on his food..

Why, I'm not going to any competition with this car.


What suggestions for the EQ?

 

dude as long as you're happy and you feel the money is well spent that's what matters. If i had a lot of money though I would get my **** from Don

 

Yeah I deff want to hit atleast 150db's theoreticly with the D2's I should but what should I be using to push it?

 

I'm actually hesitant now because you guys seem to know more about what I should be using.
I'm not going to spend over 3k that's fo sho. What it all comes down too is if my installer can get me those stuff for the money I gave him, he calls and he orders that's it..I just want to make sure I'm getting the right stuff but I guess not..

I need help with these:

Amp?
EQ?
HU?

 

150 db on a real mic "read" Termlab, in a real competition, in a maxima is not possible with that setup. however, it will be more than enough to listen to daily and you will love the setup. for the radio...I personally like the TV setup but for all out tuning and sound quality, do not go with it. I run a pioneer TV setup myself and love it for the bling factor and it still sounds solid.