How much Sound Deadener to buy?
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How much Sound Deadener to buy?
I was originally gonna go with Second Skin, but it is pretty expensive. I plan to use RAAMmat BXT™. I want to do my trunk to make the exhaust note quieter inside the car and I want to do the rear deck to keep it from rattling. How many SQ ft will I need?
I also was thinking of using Ensolite® MLC Sheeting in the trunk to help keep it even quieter. Is there a cheaper foam alternative?
I might do the front doors later on so how much would they take?
Anyone know where to get discounts on this stuff?
I also was thinking of using Ensolite® MLC Sheeting in the trunk to help keep it even quieter. Is there a cheaper foam alternative?
I might do the front doors later on so how much would they take?
Anyone know where to get discounts on this stuff?
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
Umm did you not read my post? Rear deck and trunk.
edit: 40sqft for all 4 doors is good and SS offers a 20% discount hence the negligible price difference.
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Two rolls of Raamat BXT and a few yards of ensolite should do ya fine. Not sure if it's byt the linear yard or what, but for the price he sells if for and how much you get, Ensolite from Rick/raamaudio is very well priced.
Two rolls of raamat will do what you want and then some. More is always better of course.
Two rolls of raamat will do what you want and then some. More is always better of course.
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Originally Posted by Metal Maxima
40 sqft for a single layer IN the tunk
15 sqft for the trunklid
8 sqft for a single layer on the rear deck. You'll want 2 on opt, 1 underneath.
15 sqft for the trunklid
8 sqft for a single layer on the rear deck. You'll want 2 on opt, 1 underneath.
Those numbers sound better. Do you think I need to do the trunk lid? I dont have any "subs" in the trunk. And what is "2 on opt"? I think I will do 2 layers on the rear deck since thats where my subs are and it rattles the most there. What do I use to stick the Ensolite/Overkill to the dampener?
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RAAMmat BXT™
Square Feet per Roll 62.5
1 roll $119.00
Ensolite® MLC Sheeting
2-5 yards $11.95 per yard
3 yards - $36
Damplifier™
40sq ft $2.40 $96.00
60 x 2.40 = 144
144 x .2 = 28.8
60SQ FT = $115.20
Over Kill™
46sq ft - $53.16
53.16 x .2 = 11.23
46sq ft - $41.93
Any discounts for RAAMaudio products?
Square Feet per Roll 62.5
1 roll $119.00
Ensolite® MLC Sheeting
2-5 yards $11.95 per yard
3 yards - $36
Damplifier™
40sq ft $2.40 $96.00
60 x 2.40 = 144
144 x .2 = 28.8
60SQ FT = $115.20
Over Kill™
46sq ft - $53.16
53.16 x .2 = 11.23
46sq ft - $41.93
Any discounts for RAAMaudio products?
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When I got it from him Rick sold an adhesive spray (made by dap, if I remember correctly). That worked like a charm. Otherwise I'm sure 3m super 77 would do the trick just fine.
My subs are mounted on the rear deck too, and my trunk like does rattle, thought I think it's mostly the spoiler. Can really only hear from the outside though.
When I deaden, I always save a little for "rattling troubleshooting" incase there's that one unexpected rattle left after dampening.
My subs are mounted on the rear deck too, and my trunk like does rattle, thought I think it's mostly the spoiler. Can really only hear from the outside though.
When I deaden, I always save a little for "rattling troubleshooting" incase there's that one unexpected rattle left after dampening.
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Originally Posted by BBOYSTEVIE
When I got it from him Rick sold an adhesive spray (made by dap, if I remember correctly). That worked like a charm. Otherwise I'm sure 3m super 77 would do the trick just fine.
My subs are mounted on the rear deck too, and my trunk like does rattle, thought I think it's mostly the spoiler. Can really only hear from the outside though.
When I deaden, I always save a little for "rattling troubleshooting" incase there's that one unexpected rattle left after dampening.
My subs are mounted on the rear deck too, and my trunk like does rattle, thought I think it's mostly the spoiler. Can really only hear from the outside though.
When I deaden, I always save a little for "rattling troubleshooting" incase there's that one unexpected rattle left after dampening.
I see. I dont have any rattles from the trunk because my spoiler is screwed in pretty good.
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
RAAMmat BXT™
Any discounts for RAAMaudio products?
Any discounts for RAAMaudio products?
In your situation, I wouldn't waste deadener on the trunk lid unless it became problematic then. Save some just in case.
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
I just spent 180 bucks, better be worth it ![Wink](https://maxima.org/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
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...so what this means is that you will indeed make the cabin quieter; it's not going to do a d'amn thing to eliminate rattles.
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Originally Posted by Metal Maxima
Uh...ensolite is a barrier loader, not a mass loader...
...so what this means is that you will indeed make the cabin quieter; it's not going to do a d'amn thing to eliminate rattles.![bustedrun](https://maxima.org/forums/images/smilies/bustedrun.gif)
...so what this means is that you will indeed make the cabin quieter; it's not going to do a d'amn thing to eliminate rattles.
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Yeah, I know. I want to use it to make the exhaust note quieter inside the car.
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
Yeah, I know. I want to use it to make the exhaust note quieter inside the car.
Oh, nice. Good choice, then.
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I would be certain to hit the rear seat bottoms with at least two layers. It's amazing how much noise comes through there.
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Originally Posted by Ollie
Where do you guys find the info. to pull off door panels, take out rear seats, pull out carpeting, without screwing things up and making new rattles?
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Originally Posted by Ollie
Where do you guys find the info. to pull off door panels, take out rear seats, pull out carpeting, without screwing things up and making new rattles?
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Originally Posted by Ollie
Where do you guys find the info. to pull off door panels, take out rear seats, pull out carpeting, without screwing things up and making new rattles?
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Originally Posted by Metal Maxima
Oh, nice. Good choice, then. ![ThumbsUp](https://maxima.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
I would be certain to hit the rear seat bottoms with at least two layers. It's amazing how much noise comes through there.
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I would be certain to hit the rear seat bottoms with at least two layers. It's amazing how much noise comes through there.
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Degreaser and acetone you say, correct?
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Originally Posted by Ollie
Where do you guys find the info. to pull off door panels, take out rear seats, pull out carpeting, without screwing things up and making new rattles?
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
Nice, I will add it there too. I should have some extra so it shouldnt be a problem. I got the stuff just waiting for the roller now
Degreaser and acetone you say, correct?
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Degreaser and acetone you say, correct?
Yep! Absolute best way to clean the surface.
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
Nice, I will add it there too. I should have some extra so it shouldnt be a problem. I got the stuff just waiting for the roller now
Degreaser and acetone you say, correct?
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Degreaser and acetone you say, correct?
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Originally Posted by djfrestyl
Roller? I prefer the rounded end of a screwdriver, or something similar. Roller doesn't get the contours as well.
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Oh man, it's freaking HOT outside. About 85 Degrees. I just got done stripping seats, deck, and trunk. I cleaned it with the degreaser so far. The spare wheel area was pretty freaking dirty. I will use the Acetone later today once it starts to cool down.
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Yes but I am not used to the hot temps yet. Plus usually it is kinda breezy..
Did your 5th gen have tar/damper on the rear deck stock? I tried to clean this too so hopefully my stuff sticks to it.
Did your 5th gen have tar/damper on the rear deck stock? I tried to clean this too so hopefully my stuff sticks to it.
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
Yes but I am not used to the hot temps yet. Plus usually it is kinda breezy..
Did your 5th gen have tar/damper on the rear deck stock? I tried to clean this too so hopefully my stuff sticks to it.
Did your 5th gen have tar/damper on the rear deck stock? I tried to clean this too so hopefully my stuff sticks to it.
Yeah, there is some pretty pathetic OEM tar dampening on the rear seats. The mat will stick just fine to that, just press real hard on the roller/
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Originally Posted by djfrestyl
Roller? I prefer the rounded end of a screwdriver, or something similar. Roller doesn't get the contours as well.
I used both, actually my thumbs too. Man I wished I had used the screwdriver on the coutoured parts from the start, as my thumbs were killing me later on that day, and the next, and the next
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
Yup it sticks pretty good. Almost done with the rear deck. Should I do 2 layers at the top? Or should I do one layer at the bottom too?
Roller? I prefer the rounded end of a screwdriver, or something similar. Roller doesn't get the contours as well.
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