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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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Need help: Remote start but auto AC doesn't start

Hi I have remote starter on a Maxima 01. When I remote start my car, the AC doesn't turn on along with it (I had the AC turned on before I turned off my engine). Is it because I have an automatic AC? When the engine is remote started, the lights on the AC turn on, but no air comes out. Only when I insert my key and turn the ignition to the on position when air start coming out. Is it possible to have the AC turn on along with the engine? Maybe connect some AC wire with the ACC wire?

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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 02:52 PM
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you make sure you connected everything? forget an accessory wire?
Old Nov 14, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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Its either an ignition or acc wire i would go check to make sure nothing happened to it
Old Nov 14, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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Im betting its 2nd ignition that isnt hooked up to the brain at all.
Old Nov 14, 2006 | 05:08 PM
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Im betting that correct. They prolly used the wrong Red wire.
Old Nov 14, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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red? assuming its what unit?

btw Don - my buddy got the comps today, a day before FedEx said he would. props to you and he thanks you.
Old Nov 14, 2006 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mendon99
you make sure you connected everything? forget an accessory wire?
I had a small audio/alarm shop do the installation for me. The alarm was a prestige A997. I asked him about the AC, but he said he'll have to check online about that which he havn't had a response yet =X.

My stereo turned on along with the remote start, so I guessing the ACC must have gotten power in order for the stereo to start (I hooked the car's turn-on lead amplifier to the ACC when I installed my stereo, so the ACC must have turned on correctly). Maybe the 01 Maxima automatic AC is designed to not run like this? Is there a bypass somehow? Or maybe my installer did it wrong. Thanks for any help/suggestions.
Old Nov 14, 2006 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by notuptodateguy
I had a small audio/alarm shop do the installation for me. The alarm was a prestige A997. I asked him about the AC, but he said he'll have to check online about that which he havn't had a response yet =X.

My stereo turned on along with the remote start, so I guessing the ACC must have gotten power in order for the stereo to start (I hooked the car's turn-on lead amplifier to the ACC when I installed my stereo, so the ACC must have turned on correctly). Maybe the 01 Maxima automatic AC is designed to not run like this? Is there a bypass somehow? Or maybe my installer did it wrong. Thanks for any help/suggestions.

I dont know how a reputable place would not be ale to do this and without extensive help. The Maxima is a Very simple car to do especially the '00-'01. If hes really that lost have him call me. Otherwise Id have to say hes really a nOOb.

No theres no bypass or anything else, its just a matter of connecting the right wires.
Old Nov 14, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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I dont know how a reputable place would not be ale to do this and without extensive help. The Maxima is a Very simple car to do especially the '00-'01. If hes really that lost have him call me. Otherwise Id have to say hes really a nOOb.

No theres no bypass or anything else, its just a matter of connecting the right wires.
When they were intalling the remote starter, they told me i'll need to supply them a copy of my key (with the chip in it) and they'll put it in a module... i did some reseach and brought them a data transponder that didn't require an extra key (technically it stores the chip's info into the module and don't require the key anymore) ... it was a BKN2 (somewhat like the PKN2 model). They said it was their 1st time installing a data transponder.. but they were able to get the engine to start.. maybe they installed it wrong? =X
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Completely unrelated. They simply didnt hook up your 2nd ignition wire.
Old Nov 14, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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Completely unrelated. They simply didnt hook up your 2nd ignition wire.

I absolutely agree. No relation whatsover. Not to mention the module that You obtained is the least reliable in Nissan/Infinitis. I simply do not trust them.
Old Nov 14, 2006 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by kpr10is
Completely unrelated. They simply didnt hook up your 2nd ignition wire.
Thanks kpr10is and Pearl96Max for looking at my issue. Can you guys show me how to hook up my 2nd ignition wire? And does an 01 Max really need a trunk relay to get my trunk to pop open? They said they had to install that part and charged me an extra $25, yet when I pop the trunk using my old remote, my alarm doesn't sound.. guess they didn't hook the trunk pop sensor to the alarm.. neither does opening my hood alert the alarm.
Old Nov 14, 2006 | 11:51 PM
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Go back to the shop and demand they give you a discount for their incompetence.

1) Your alarm install isnt something you want to dig into yourself if you havent done remote starts before. It usually ends in disaster for any noobs that end up attempting their own. Like Don and I said, its an ignition wire (part of your ignition harness wires) that isnt powered up, most likely not even connected to the brain at all. Tell them this.
2) Yes, you really do need a relay to pop the trunk. We sell individual relays for $10, so they didnt really rape you on that, if part of that $25 was a bit of extra labor, but its not a 'deal' either.
3) Reasons why they are retarded: There are factory wires at the SECU, directly under the dash, for the factory hood pin and factory trunk pin, which is where they shouldve tapped into the factory lock/unlock/door trigger wires anyway.
Old Nov 14, 2006 | 11:54 PM
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Or maybe it's the 2nd Accessories wire? According to the remote start diagram on http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=356731 , they didn't list a wire for the 2nd ignition but they did for the 2nd Accessories one

5th Gen 2001
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12volts: green (+) Location: ignition harness

Starter: black/red or (+) Location: ignition harness
black/wht

Second Starter: black/blue (+) Location: ignition harness

Ignition: black/red (+) Location: ignition harness

Accessory: red/yellow (+) Location: ignition harness

Second Accessory: white/blue (+) Location: ignition harness


And on this website: http://www.drdetailshop.com/STARTINSTALL.html
It says:
"Accessory wire
This wire supplies power to the vehicle's blower and heater/Ac controls. It shows between 11.5v and 14v with the key in the ACCESSORY and RUN positions of the key switch. Some vehicles have multiple accessory wires to control all the heater and a/c functions. If it is necessary to connect a second accessory wire, use a relay!"

So I'm guessing they forgot about the Accessories wire, which controls the AC [b/c the 2nd ignition is usually for controlling the transmision]. But please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm just doing research online and guessing b/c I really have no clue.
Old Nov 14, 2006 | 11:59 PM
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Its still describing the same problem....doesnt matter whether it was a 2nd ignition or 2nd accessory, they shouldve tested prior to installing the unit, and subsequently powered up each wire accordingly. All of the said wires are in the exact same spot (the ignition harness) and there are only 6 of them, no more no less.
Old Nov 15, 2006 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by kpr10is
Go back to the shop and demand they give you a discount for their incompetence.

1) Your alarm install isnt something you want to dig into yourself if you havent done remote starts before. It usually ends in disaster for any noobs that end up attempting their own. Like Don and I said, its an ignition wire (part of your ignition harness wires) that isnt powered up, most likely not even connected to the brain at all. Tell them this.
2) Yes, you really do need a relay to pop the trunk. We sell individual relays for $10, so they didnt really rape you on that, if part of that $25 was a bit of extra labor, but its not a 'deal' either.
3) Reasons why they are retarded: There are factory wires at the SECU, directly under the dash, for the factory hood pin and factory trunk pin, which is where they shouldve tapped into the factory lock/unlock/door trigger wires anyway.

Thanks alot, I wouldn't want to be messing with my alarm. I'll come visit the shop in a few days.
Old Nov 15, 2006 | 05:02 AM
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...I asked him about the AC, but he said he'll have to check online about that which he havn't had a response yet =X.
wow... doesn't that make you nervous? that the installer has to check online to figure out whats wrong?

never go there again..

he should be able to diagnose and fix the problem by sticking his head in the dash.
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