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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 01:52 PM
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*in an attempt to fight for the last word*

These speakers pick EVERYTHING up. Almost forces you got get satellite radio. When the radio gets "staticky", the speakers pick it up and magnify it in a way. Although Im a big fan of mp3 on my phone, I have been making a lot more cd's than usual in an attempt to get the best sound, not necessarily for loudest but best sq. Just wanted to throw more feedback, whether considered positive or negative.

At any rate, after over 60 hours of listening, (I have to be near it atleast), I am still smiling. I got my subwoofer up and running again but i cant even tell where the bass is coming from. My fronts always shaked my side and rear view mirrors, just feels more surrounded...saving and patiently waiting for an Esotar 1200...when the time is right .

*ahem*, Don, I say you sell me yours in a month or so since its already broken in and you should be working on the next big thing
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Originally Posted by meccanoble
*in an attempt to fight for the last word*

These speakers pick EVERYTHING up. Almost forces you got get satellite radio. When the radio gets "staticky", the speakers pick it up and magnify it in a way. Although Im a big fan of mp3 on my phone, I have been making a lot more cd's than usual in an attempt to get the best sound, not necessarily for loudest but best sq. Just wanted to throw more feedback, whether considered positive or negative.

At any rate, after over 60 hours of listening, (I have to be near it atleast), I am still smiling. I got my subwoofer up and running again but i cant even tell where the bass is coming from. My fronts always shaked my side and rear view mirrors, just feels more surrounded...saving and patiently waiting for an Esotar 1200...when the time is right .

*ahem*, Don, I say you sell me yours in a month or so since its already broken in and you should be working on the next big thing
I still fish around around at the 60 mark on certain songs and improvements continue. I wonder If I should add some rear dyns to this set up or just go with the Esotar 1200 hhhmmmmmm.
Old Jul 21, 2008 | 07:06 PM
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I still fish around around at the 60 mark on certain songs and improvements continue. I wonder If I should add some rear dyns to this set up or just go with the Esotar 1200 hhhmmmmmm.
dam 60's? I'm chillin in the upper 40's on most cd's and venture into low 50's on radio and mp3. Tell me you got your Billet gains at half (yea yea i know we cant compare but I still like to know how his setup looks)

Also, Im preparing for the 1200....rear speakers = rear amp ($$) or connection to head unit (waste of speakers)....IMHO
Old Jul 21, 2008 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by meccanoble
dam 60's? I'm chillin in the upper 40's on most cd's and venture into low 50's on radio and mp3. Tell me you got your Billet gains at half (yea yea i know we cant compare but I still like to know how his setup looks)

Also, Im preparing for the 1200....rear speakers = rear amp ($$) or connection to head unit (waste of speakers)....IMHO
My gains I believe are set at 50 hz What are yours set at? Im not sure what affects It would have if I change it so Im going to leave it... for now as least till the drivers break in. As for the rears you are right mo money mo money. I'll just get the Esotar 1200 first and see how It is from there.
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NO rear dyns. Unless just midbass, then hell ya.
Old Jul 21, 2008 | 07:53 PM
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[QUOTE=nismos14;6529892]NO rear dyns. Unless just midbass, then hell ya.[/QUOTE

Sup Parag? When you say just midbass are you referring to a Sub? or mids like the 8" in the door?
Old Jul 21, 2008 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by meccanoble
dam 60's? I'm chillin in the upper 40's on most cd's and venture into low 50's on radio and mp3. Tell me you got your Billet gains at half (yea yea i know we cant compare but I still like to know how his setup looks)

Also, Im preparing for the 1200....rear speakers = rear amp ($$) or connection to head unit (waste of speakers)....IMHO
upper 40 sound to low for me. Or maybe Im just getting used to loud music to soon.
Old Jul 22, 2008 | 03:26 PM
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upper 40 sound to low for me. Or maybe Im just getting used to loud music to soon.
nah my amp gains are at 3/4 and my frequency is at 35hz, minimum amp can go. Its all good, like they say, my 40 can be louder than your 60
Old Jul 22, 2008 | 03:58 PM
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[QUOTE=maxprivate;6529929]
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NO rear dyns. Unless just midbass, then hell ya.[/QUOTE

Sup Parag? When you say just midbass are you referring to a Sub? or mids like the 8" in the door?
he is referring to 8" mids in the rears although two of them in the car sounds like a lot, especially for just rear fill. I would just get 6 and a half to avoid any custom installs but esotar 1200 is all you need.
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Originally Posted by meccanoble
nah my amp gains are at 3/4 and my frequency is at 35hz, minimum amp can go. Its all good, like they say, my 40 can be louder than your 60
Yeah that very well may be the your 40 is louder than my 60 wierd but yeah...or im just going deaf

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he is referring to 8" mids in the rears although two of them in the car sounds like a lot, especially for just rear fill. I would just get 6 and a half to avoid any custom installs but esotar 1200 is all you need.
Yeah Im sure the 1200 would suit my needs , that why I will go that route first.
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This thread is comical.
Old Jul 22, 2008 | 07:38 PM
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Indeed.
Old Jul 22, 2008 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by nismos14
This thread is comical.
Alright , Im glad we are entertaining you.
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Indeed.

WHY SO SERIOUS! checked your voicemail.
Old Jul 22, 2008 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by maxprivate
Alright , Im glad we are entertaining you.



WHY SO SERIOUS! checked your voicemail.
Who is serious? you checked my voicemail? How dare you ! Oh, do you mean I need to check my voicemail? I did, but didnt wanna call you late ...
Old Jul 22, 2008 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by nismos14
This thread is comical.
this is what you get when you give newbies expert level equipment...
Old Jul 23, 2008 | 03:42 AM
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Who is serious? you checked my voicemail? How dare you ! Oh, do you mean I need to check my voicemail? I did, but didnt wanna call you late ...
yeah you know what I meant give me a call when u get a min.
Originally Posted by meccanoble
this is what you get when you give newbies expert level equipment...
mec yeah we are entertaining. They just sit back and watch us babble and make stuff up.
Old Jul 23, 2008 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by meccanoble
this is what you get when you give newbies expert level equipment...
Yea that was mistake number 1.

Originally Posted by maxprivate
yeah you know what I meant give me a call when u get a min.

mec yeah we are entertaining. They just sit back and watch us babble and make stuff up.
You guys are! You have no idear. The making stuff up part is the best.
Old Jul 23, 2008 | 08:00 AM
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i mean, if 1 set of dyns is this good imagine 2 (or 3 or 4 ).
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 09:35 AM
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Mec the only time MY 40 Volume is way loud is if I put the EQ on setting 4 and set the treble to low on the AVN. Sound good for a newbi heh? I just made this up!
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Can you guys stop comparing volume?

What eq setting are you changing exactly Lenny?
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Can you guys stop comparing volume?

What eq setting are you changing exactly Lenny?
the eq setting on the avn itself. it makes a huge difference.
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Um .. there 6 or 7 bands on the eq setting, which specific one?
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Originally Posted by nismos14
Um .. there 6 or 7 bands on the eq setting, which specific one?
when I select EQ it then Avn brings me to a EQ screen ..on the right hand side are preset selections numbered 1 thru 5. I selected number 4 , not to much bass and nice highs.

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I see.
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Originally Posted by maxprivate
when I select eg it the Avn brings me to a Eq screen ..on the right hand side are preser selections numbered 1 thru 5. I selected number 4 , not to much bass and nice highs.
Through nismo's previous recommendations, I have mine on flat but a friend saved a new preset that brings a lot of the bass down. I will play with the flat and try to bring the highs up.

Any custom eq preferences that anyone feel make the dyn's shine even more?
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Mecca, it is going to be different for each car, hard to tell you what will work best and what not.
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tune for your ears.
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Originally Posted by meccanoble
Through nismo's previous recommendations, I have mine on flat but a friend saved a new preset that brings a lot of the bass down. I will play with the flat and try to bring the highs up.

Any custom eq preferences that anyone feel make the dyn's shine even more?
IMO it sounds nice on the number 4 EQ setting but thats on the AVN 6620 I think you have a different hu right? So I dont know if it the same. If I run it flat it doesnt sound as good especially on volumes near 40. But I dont play with it much because I know the drivers are still breaking in and I wouldn't want to damage the flux capacitor and void my warranty.
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This thread really rocks, I love it, would read multiple times.
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Originally Posted by nismos14
This thread really rocks, I love it, would read multiple times.
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RESURRECTS THREAD!

Ok, so I've been playing with the equalizer in an attempt to bring more vocals into the system, those 8" mids create a lot of bass up front. After some changes I seen a big improvement but was fiending for more.

I just tampered with the crossover setting the tweet and 3" dome to +2db each instead of standard 0 db. This actually makes a big difference. Brightens up the vocals and allows for more high end sound during low volumes. Definitely liking this change. Thank you to a fellow dynaudio owner that made the recommendation. Also thanks to Don for assisting with equalizer adjustments. Hopefully someone still cares
Old Aug 7, 2008 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by meccanoble
RESURRECTS THREAD!

Ok, so I've been playing with the equalizer in an attempt to bring more vocals into the system, those 8" mids create a lot of bass up front. After some changes I seen a big improvement but was fiending for more.

I just tampered with the crossover setting the tweet and 3" dome to +2db each instead of standard 0 db. This actually makes a big difference. Brightens up the vocals and allows for more high end sound during low volumes. Definitely liking this change. Thank you to a fellow dynaudio owner that made the recommendation. Also thanks to Don for assisting with equalizer adjustments. Hopefully someone still cares
I care Mec, I was trying to tell you guys messing with the equalizer makes a big difference ... but since Im a newbi in Audio scene no one cares what I say. So Mec the setting you change.. Was this on the xover for the dyns or an adjustment you made on the amp.
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i'm no tuning pro but my understanding is its better to attenuate the over emphasized frequencies rather than boost the under emphasized ones. not sure if this is a fix all reccomendation but startng from a flat eq its where i would go.
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i'm no tuning pro but my understanding is its better to attenuate the over emphasized frequencies rather than boost the under emphasized ones. not sure if this is a fix all reccomendation but startng from a flat eq its where i would go.
I believe you are right and thats what I did. First I brought down the low end frequency (first band on left) to improve on vocals and this made a difference. I could raise volumes with less stress on the mids and hear more vocals. I then raised some of the vocal bands. This also made an improvement. Today during lunch I made adjustments on my dynaudio crossovers (did not touch my amp) and thats where I felt an even bigger difference.

It doesnt sound like the quality has went down, just they are a little brighter or a little more noticeable and still not ear stressing like previous components I've played with. Not sure if its because of the quality or the placement (most likely both).

maxprivate, I did not touch my amp this time, well i put the gains half way or slightly under halfway for one reason. My head unit jumps in double increments until I get to volume 50. I'm a blaster (if speakers survive in my car, they must be good). So I brought gains down so I can maximize the volume with increments of 1. Now I can touch low to mid 50's depending on cd, radio or mp3 quality.

I will listen to a few more tracks at home, both r&b and hip hop. I was playing Rick Ross Trilla album and I didnt notice a weakness in SQ, just more vocals which is a plus to me since by default this system has a lot of bass. So far, the first song which is heavy in bass sounds a lot better. I'll update you all as I continue to listen.
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Came out nice. Don is the greatest.
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Came out nice. Don is the greatest.
another happy camper.

BTW, I found my final setup, I'm not touching it again.

I kept my crossover settings for 3" mids and tweets to +2db and put my equalizer at flat and brought the first band down 2 notches. Brought my sub amp gains up 2 levels and I am at peace with this setup.

I kept going back and forth between flats and a custom setup that had vocals brought up a little. Some songs they sound slightly better than flats but most songs the flats sound better. I would get some songs where vocals just sound too high or too high pitched. Not bad but you definitely favor the flats. I will stay with the flat setup. Very happy with this and with speakers fully broken in, my system definitely feeds my need for loudness, accuracy and bass.

If anyone feels system has too much bass or vocals arent matching with bass, I recommend this setup but I definitely recommend letting them break in COMPLETELY before making any adjustments. The wait was terrible but end result was definitely worth it.

I used to blast songs until the tweets went into protection mode, now I find myself lowering the volume a little because volume is too high, even for a blaster like me.

Now I just need a more accurate sub and I'm done.
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