Oh and what do I win now? ...






Yes, I bothered a buddy to go outside in the snow of Michigan to snap these. He offered to again remove the flex loom, but I felt bad enough as it is. BTW he also works for GM at their local plant and did confirm the lack of fusing. So ... who shall I believe?

 

Torgus...
its not that the people on this forum have "boners" for don (as you so eloquently put it), its that his reputation pretty much preceeds him, too put it simply HE KNOWS HIS ****, and what he doesn't know if finds out
think about this...you ask a question and you get 2 answers back. person "A" has every certification imaginable in this field, while person "B" doesn't have any paperwork, but he has the reputation for knowing his ****
me...i'm going with person "B"...why because you can have certifications up the *** and still be shady, a reputation is a hard thing to maintain, all certifications do is prove you can pass a test, ill take experience over certification anyday

 

Wait wait wait.

I have a boner for Don, where do I fit in this equation?

 

"It takes 20 years to build a reputation and five minutes to ruin it. If you think about that, you'll do things differently."
-Warren Buffett

 

hmmm...good question forgot to add you to the equation sorry djfrestyl

 

wow i was drunk last night...anywho:

You said you don't use fusible links for your customers. never have. one would infer it means they shouldn't be used otherwise you would be using them.

You said the chance of it happening is 0 which means it's impossible. doesn't that mean it should not be used if the chance of it happening is zero?

You drive cars without them, allegedly, which means you don't think they should be used.

 

oh and don:


there is your schematic. The LINK, is part of the CABLE.

again me proving every car you own has a fusible link doesn't prove anything. it's the theory we're debating. and i'm not trying to get in an argument. sorry for what i said last night i was hammered man. but my main point doesn't change:

i say they are crucial. and there for a good reason.
you say they are 'worth nill'

What happens if you take your 00 gauge from your + and ground it out? sparks? massive heat at the area of contact...



http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showth...t=fusible+link just proving it can happen. the guy is an idiot. read the last posts it's funny.

 

So what exactly happened in that pic? ^^^ How did the wire ground? Just curious.

Although I have not had an incident, I am going to fuse them from now on. I honestly can't find a good enough reason to not do it. It is cheap, it is easy, and it could avoid a possible issue.

I have had other people read this thread b/c I thought I may be over reacting to the language used. Both people, including my wife, confirmed that you were both sarcastic and demeaning in your posts. I hope you find some other way to comunicate with others, whether you have a good point or not will be overshadowed by your appraoch. This causes people like myself to care less about the content of your argument. I 100% understand that neither of you give a shit, it is our nature, particularly when there is an entire internet between us, but I needed to post this for my own need to be honest. So take it for what it is worth.

 

I did take many classes involving electrical design, but I wouldn't call understanding this topic an achievement.


This is cute, I'm sure King Don might have been right more times than wrong, but even the elite can make mistakes. You are more than welcome to follow in Don's tracks and not use any fuses in your engine bay just don't drive anywhere near me. While you're at it go ahead and remove your fuse box from your engine bay since its just a waist of space and extra weight. Just because you can do something wrong 300 times and get away with it doesn't make it right.

I'm not sure if you're talking to me about 'certs' but I do have a degree if that's what you meant which is more than passing a test and my experience is along the lines of wire work that goes in airplanes which goes by a lot more strict rules than upgrading a car stereo. Not that you need 50 years of experience to understand the concept of a fuse.

That's more like it

 

does the fuse have to be rated the same or about the same as the alternator?? lets say i have a 160 amp alt & a 300 amp fuse, would it be ok? i know nothing about fuses

 

http://www.expertvillage.com/video/4...cruit-fuse.htm
http://www.ehow.com/video_2260488_fu...k-vehicle.html <--listen to that. it's...funny but informative.
http://www.expertvillage.com/video/16421_blown-fuse.htm

http://www.the12volt.com/info/recwirsz.asp
Wire Gauge Recommended
Maximum Fuse Size
00 awg 400 amps
0 awg 325 amps
1 awg 250 amps
2 awg 200 amps
4 awg 125 amps
6 awg 80 amps
8 awg 50 amps
10 awg 30 amps
12 awg 20 amps
14 awg 15 amps
16 awg 7.5 amps
These are the recommended maximum fuse ratings for the corresponding wire size...


There are two argument on this actually: some say fuse to the wire size(that's what most say and I) others say fuse it to what the alt can max put out or a little over.

either way you want the fuse 6 inches away from your batt to prevent it from burning down your car.

I like to use:
https://weldingsupply.securesites.co...:OR:terms::PA3
for alot of my wire and parts. cheap and very effective. wire is wire you don't need kicker hyperflex to do the big 3, or any other wiring in your car.




imagine this:
our alternators like all are capable of putting out well over 14.4v. but the regulator inside them stops that. regulator stops working, battery explodes/fire.

 

im going to be using a 1/0 wire, so its safe to use a 300 amp fuse on a alternator rated around 160 amps?

the fuse will be about 6-9 inches away from the battery.

 

out of curiosity don do you use an in line fuse for the batt to amp run of wire? or is that unneeded as well? the amps all have fuses anyways so who needs it right?

 

Are you really still on this?

Motion for thread locking.

 

why?

i'm curious?

the only reason in my mind for fusing that wire is encase of an accident, regardless of how well you run it...i'm just curious if his reason for not fusing the alt to batt is the same as not fusing the alt to amp wire. as the only time it could go bad is if in an accident. right?

oh and go have it locked, hell delete it. the fact remains all i'v said/used in my argument is basic electrical theory, non of which is complicated...hell i learned it in high school, and i'v had a few people disagree with me. it's a simple discussion. i enjoy it however, mind you no one has yet to use any facts other then i'v done it this way X number of times. facts talk words walk. and saying i'v done it X number of times so i'm right is in itself, a horrible argument.

Please tell me i'm wrong, you know with facts or electronic theory. In my opinion you fuse the alt to batt cable for the same reason you fuse the alt to amplifier wire right? or am i wrong?

again i'm just curious and trying to educate myself. if i'm wrong i'm always the 1st to admit it and love to learn why i was misinformed, it's part of growing as an individual. oh! and thanks for contributing to the discussion!

 

i agree...don please lock, delete, crush, kill, destroy, burn, whatever you got to do kill this thread, i finished my big 2 upgrade (didn't have time to do engine to chassis), no fuse, no problems as of yet, and minimal dimming FTMFW

don i should be good this friday for the thing we talked about

 

Could anyone give a novice like me a few pointers on how to do the Alternator to Battery attachment on a 2007 Maxima?

 

Find the two end points and add the wire in the neatest/safest fashion possible.

Seriously though, this is not that tough and many of us may not yet have experience with the 07 Maxima to give pointers.