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Old 02-15-2002 | 03:25 AM
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Are my subs going to be under powered?

hi,
Right now I have an Autotek Stealth series Mono block amp. It can run 1500 watts rms.. I will be getting 2 Crystal CMPx-2's 12" which r 900 watts rms per voice coil. Do you think they will sound sh1tty with my amp?? I know these subs need a lot to get them going.. Thank you for your concern.
Old 02-15-2002 | 03:29 AM
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you ask to many questions. just buy your system before tony fat sacks changes his mind and *** your ish up. spend all night 'researching' then ask questions on org. people here tell you one thing and tony tells you another. you get all confused. your system is going to end up in pieces in your room for the rest of your life. shoulda kept the rockford sub. now b3k boy has more beat than you. you gonna take that? hurry up and buy. these people dont know ish anyway. just talk to tony and everything will be ok. hush lil baby dont you cry, you know tony wont do you dry.

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Old 02-15-2002 | 04:15 AM
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Just because those subs can handle 1800 watts, it doesn't mean that they won't play if they have less. Those subs would sound fine with 100 clean watts apiece. The amp you have is fine.
Old 02-15-2002 | 02:13 PM
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Just because those subs can handle 1800 watts, it doesn't mean that they won't play if they have less. Those subs would sound fine with 100 clean watts apiece. The amp you have is fine.
Excellent, that's what I like to hear.
Old 02-15-2002 | 07:21 PM
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Excellent, that's what I like to hear.
who do you think you are? fukin or sumthin?
Old 02-15-2002 | 07:38 PM
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Old 02-16-2002 | 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by Micah95GLE


Just because those subs can handle 1800 watts, it doesn't mean that they won't play if they have less. Those subs would sound fine with 100 clean watts apiece. The amp you have is fine.
actually on the contrary micah... if a sub says it can handle "X" power rms, you should be powering it to that... with most subs, its just as unhealthy to underpower a sub as it is to overpower it
Old 02-16-2002 | 11:19 PM
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actually on the contrary micah... if a sub says it can handle "X" power rms, you should be powering it to that... with most subs, its just as unhealthy to underpower a sub as it is to overpower it
Thats what I thought...and heard from others
Old 02-17-2002 | 04:59 AM
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actually on the contrary micah... if a sub says it can handle "X" power rms, you should be powering it to that... with most subs, its just as unhealthy to underpower a sub as it is to overpower it

No it's not. As long as you are sending clean wattage to the speaker, a small amount of power has no possible way of damaging a speaker. And in reality, even if you have a 2,000 watt amp for the subs, you'll use maybe only a hundred or two of actual output to drive the subs for normal listening. Just because an amp is rated for a certain amount of power, it doesn't put that much power out contiuously the entire time it's on.
Old 02-17-2002 | 08:28 AM
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No it's not. As long as you are sending clean wattage to the speaker, a small amount of power has no possible way of damaging a speaker. And in reality, even if you have a 2,000 watt amp for the subs, you'll use maybe only a hundred or two of actual output to drive the subs for normal listening. Just because an amp is rated for a certain amount of power, it doesn't put that much power out contiuously the entire time it's on.
do i really have to go to the RockfordFosgate site and pull the documentation from their files to show you it that it says so?... i really dont feel like searching for it
Old 02-17-2002 | 08:59 AM
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Originally posted by Micah95GLE



No it's not. As long as you are sending clean wattage to the speaker, a small amount of power has no possible way of damaging a speaker. And in reality, even if you have a 2,000 watt amp for the subs, you'll use maybe only a hundred or two of actual output to drive the subs for normal listening. Just because an amp is rated for a certain amount of power, it doesn't put that much power out contiuously the entire time it's on.
Autotek amps can...it's been proven..
Old 02-17-2002 | 09:51 AM
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Autotek amps can...it's been proven..
by fat fingers...
Old 02-17-2002 | 12:58 PM
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I think both of you are right in different ways..

Here's my example I have first hand. I have two audiobahn subs (400 RMS each), and a 800.2 RF amp. Since the subs are 4 ohms and the amp is 4 ohm stable bridged I can only get 400RMS out of it, not the full 800. Since I am only putting out that much I had the gains all the way up thinking that since it's underpowered it will not be close to hurting them. But, they blew quick. This was because i had the amp working to its extreme and it was prolyl sending a distorted signal sometimes form being pushed to its limits. So Micah is right because if the signal is clean then you will be fine. But, Sugarhi is right also because underpowering kind of did hurt my subs. I would have been better off sending them 800 RMS with the gain down a little bit.

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Old 02-17-2002 | 01:47 PM
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do i really have to go to the RockfordFosgate site and pull the documentation from their files to show you it that it says so?... i really dont feel like searching for it

What does the RF site say? That every amp puts out 100% of its power 100% of the time that it's turned on? That's just wrong.
Old 02-17-2002 | 10:50 PM
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Originally posted by Micah95GLE



What does the RF site say? That every amp puts out 100% of its power 100% of the time that it's turned on? That's just wrong.
this has nothing to do w/ the amp... im talkin about the underpowering or overpowering of subs
Old 02-18-2002 | 01:39 AM
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I think speednsound007 has hit the nail on the head. Using an underpowered amp is only really bad when you try to overdrive it.
Old 02-18-2002 | 08:39 AM
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Originally posted by Shugarhi


actually on the contrary micah... if a sub says it can handle "X" power rms, you should be powering it to that... with most subs, its just as unhealthy to underpower a sub as it is to overpower it
that is a myth!
Old 03-01-2002 | 10:29 AM
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I have to agree with Micah on this guys. In my old 280ZX I had 2 Kicker 12's that could handle 300 watts RMS apeice. I powered them with an old Kenwood amp that put out 100 watts RMS per 2 channels, and those speakers had plenty of power. RMS means root mean square, in layman's terms it is what the amp CAN provide continously, but the volume **** controls what it delivers at any given time. So if you have you gains set right and you usually listen to your music at half volume, you're probably only using 50 or 60 watts of power.
Old 03-01-2002 | 01:56 PM
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Same Here 97StockSE

Originally posted by 97StockSE
I have to agree with Micah on this guys. In my old 280ZX I had 2 Kicker 12's that could handle 300 watts RMS apeice. I powered them with an old Kenwood amp that put out 100 watts RMS per 2 channels, and those speakers had plenty of power. RMS means root mean square, in layman's terms it is what the amp CAN provide continously, but the volume **** controls what it delivers at any given time. So if you have you gains set right and you usually listen to your music at half volume, you're probably only using 50 or 60 watts of power.

I have a JL Audio 10W3 that can handle 250watts RMS. I am running it off of a Punch 75HD that's like 6-7 yrs old. The amp put out like 120 watts, but my sub doesn't skip a beat. I don't have the gains all jacked up on the amp, and it pushes the 10 just fine. I was quite surprised when I hooked it up about a year ago now. It hits hard when it should, and sounds good all the time. I think that if you send good clean signal to the speaker, you'll be OK. Just my .02,,,,,DMAN
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