SoonerFan

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I just got everything put on today
thanks to josh (irish) for a good price on the tires and for finding the wheels for me

sciff5

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What tires did you get and what size?

irish44j

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They're my old Hankooks 225/45/17 that I sold him cheap when I replaced them with 245/45/17s..

DrKlop

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Nice, but why didn't you get something wider? As far as I know you need at least 245mm wide tire to be competitive in classes you can legally run in. (due to your extra .5 liters )

DrKlop

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oh, I get it now, you purposely lowered the price to make him buy those narrow tires, so you can still be faster around the course.

irish44j

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Jason was about 3 seconds behind me the last time we both ran....I don't think 2cm of tire width will make that up by itself. Theyre a big step up over his Proxes4 for autocross....

trust me, the price I sold them to him for was the deal of a lifetime considering the tires have almost full tread depth....

SoonerFan

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new wheels and tires + stage 1 LTB = 2 seconds behind josh

gdmaxse

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hopefully ill have these mounted by the next autoX

irish44j

iTrader: (38)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

JSutter

iTrader: (46)

DOT slicks?

sciff5

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Haha Irish is gonna get owned by DA sticky tires. I am sure running those tires puts you in a different class though. I know AutoX has a ton of rules but I have never competed in an event.

DrKlop

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that's what sucks about auto-x rules. Compound and thread do not matter. Right now I run on Proxes 4 in 225/50-17. If I were to buy v710 in the same size I would still be in the same class...

(did I mention that I currently have to compete against guys running DOT approved tires? )

gdmaxse

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they allow r comps in the stock classes to keep the times closer to other more modified classes. they have street tire classes you can run in that dont allow r comps, although some of those STS cars are faster than many street prepared and prepared cars

gdmaxse

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we are both already in the class that allows full bias ply slicks let alone DOT radial race tires

DrKlop

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hm, that's interesting... do you know how those classes are called?

sciff5

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Wow...really surprised here.. for how **** AutoX is about keeping things fair by breaking cars up into tons of classes. I know if you run something like more than 10 mm over the stock tires that came on your car you move up a class. So the width of your tires changes you class but not the type of tires? That doesnt seem to make sense

gdmaxse

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STS, STX, STU there may be others, those classes allow a lot of suspension and bolt on engine modifications but no race tires

irish44j

iTrader: (38)

autocross is as much about building and setting up the car as it is driving the car.

Most "hardcore" autocrossers who have an 'autocross car' will:
1. buy a car to autocross
2. figure out what class they want to run in, or what class the car can be competitive in
3. find out all the rules of that class
4. build the car/mods to the maximum extent of the rules of that class.
5. not usually use it for daily driving....

As opposed to us who have to have the cars good for daily driving too...so we can't really build to match the class. We do the mods we want for street driving and then figure out what class they fit in. That's why we don't have roll cages, race seats, super-stiff springs, etc......

doing it our way generally results in a slower autocross car, but that's the breaks.

BTW, any class that starts with 'street touring' (STX, STU, STS...) means you can only run "street tires" on the car, no r-comps.

irish44j

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nobody who autocrosses likes all the rules, and adjustments are made every year to the rulebook.

But classing and stuff doesn't really matter if you're autocrossing a maxima. Assuming the competition is decent, you're not going to win anyhow

sciff5

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Thats why I'm going to AutoX the RX7. It may not win but it will be quite a bit faster than the max.

DrKlop

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So you guys are saying that r-compound tires are not allowed in Street Turing classes?? Do they enforce those tire rules? The reason I'm asking is because I saw Acura RSX with Kumho v710 (or a similar looking tire) running STX at the last event.

That's what probably got me confused, sorry sciff

irish44j

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people cheat...people don't know the rules...

if you're that obvious, you're gonna get caught, though.....

you sure he wasn't running Kumho MX's? That's one of the most popular tires in ST classes....

DrKlop

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I don't really know the brand/name or the tires, but I'm pretty sure they had absolutely no thread except for the two stripes like on Kumho v710 or Hoosier A6

irish44j

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gabe..did you say what wheels those are going on?

gdmaxse

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probably some rota gt3 or slipstream 15x7... id rather have 15x8 or even 9 but i cant find any in that size for less than a couple million dollars. theyr most likely gonna have to be black since for some reason rota stopped making silver rims. i may just order the black and strip the paint off then clearcoat them..

irish44j

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for track rims, I prefer black anyhow (dull black, that is)...that way you don't ahve to worry about ever cleaning them

97SEdriver

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depends on what RX you have and how the course is, 1st or 2nd gen and on a longer open course the max would have a chance.....

97SEdriver

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I'm going to show up in October just to see this.....

Chefasaurus

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Unless this package is in a stripped out, caged, coilover'd, -3 degrees of camber, 85 RX-7... With the previous motor (not the one being sold... only had ~140rwhp), I got FTD and FTDI 6 times in a row, in CSP, on Azenis.

sciff5

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If your betting on a longer open course because of the acelleration of the maxima, I wouldent based on the fact that this rx7 is going to have an LS1 in it and be completly stripped. It should weigh around 2300lbs.

The first gens (the earliest rx7s) deff wouldent do well on a longer open course but in tight courses they do pretty damn well. I'm sure the fact that the can be brought down to 1800-1900lbs pretty easily doesnt hurt.

After driving my max with all the work I've done on it and a stock 2nd gen RX7 its very apparent that the max is not even in the same league in terms of handling feel, balance, and fun factor. Ultimate grip right now my max prob has more grip than a stock rx7 but thats only because of the tires I have on the max.

BEJAY1

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But full tread tires make you slower, not faster.

97SEdriver

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I wasn't even talking about an LS1, but I want to put one in a 1st gen RX. I owned an 80 with an 82 motor in it for 9 years.....memories.... I still like the 1st and 3rd gens the best. However, I know I could outdrive a less experienced driver in an RX with my max. With me driving back to back my old mostly stock 1st gen and my max, I would still bet on theRX.

Chefasaurus

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teh 7 can nevAr lose!


And I think you should buy a first gen shell, and put my motor and trans in it, and wheels on it.

samanthafay20

nice car......................................