Maybe try PM'ing a mod

 

In the wrong forum!!!

 

Already did as a follow up, thanks...

 

Just like i said.... 95% of people here on the org knows that redlinemax is going through some trouble.... so when you place an order you know that:

A) it'll take Christ knows how long,
B) Corey is too nice of a guy to know 'no'
C) the mesh is the factor that is holding this up
D) since everything is held up by the mesh.... and that Corey is too nice to say 'no' the quality will decrease because he'll end up sending out what he has, not his best.

Yes, everyone that has placed orders have probably gotten the run around and has been delaying a bit long,...

It's just best to go to the source of the problem,... and not come onto the org and stir the $hit about what everyone already knows.... because most people can't stay on topic about the poor quality and begins to ramble about.

Also, let me add this... I have never purchased anything from Redlinemax... nor have i 'gotten' anything from him... so let's not play that card.

It is what it is... if people don't like the quality or the way he handles the business,... then go elsewhere,... i personally won't make purchases from them until i see that things are better.

 

tempers tempers, fellas. There really is no need for any of us to get chippy with each other. Look it is not the end of the world. perhaps this should be moved. I hope that I did not add to much fuel to this ragin inferno. That was not my intent. I just wanted to be subjective but I can see there is to much emotion wrapped up in this one that it has gotten way out of hand. So I second the MODS move or Close the thread.

 

I fully disagree...... its good to know info about a 6th gen vendor. Chern, you have a whicked ride, and Corey personally works on your car....... its very normal to have a biased opinion of a person who not only sponsors your vehicle but is also a friend. I know your trying to defend him but it is fair to say that the problem here is with a part related to a 6th gen maxima and a business thats not falling through on their promises.

Cory has remained quiet through all this, but maybe it would be good to hear from the horses mouth??.......

Anwyhoo, im out, time for home.

Take Care,
Kam

 

[Maybe I can take some heat off of my friend Cory, who's going through some growing pains and I'm sure will get things ship-shape soon.]

Since you suggest that we're ripping our customers off by charging this price, perhaps you can finish your cost breakdown on "some piping" by including the current cost of stainless steel tubing, tube bending services, welding materials, the custom-made resonator, plate steel and lasercutting (that would be a total of 8 3/8"-thick flanges).

If you lack this knowledge, then you have no idea what we pay for the part, and - by extension - don't know what an appropriate price is. I assure you and everyone else, the margin between what we pay for the part and what we charge (don't call it profit, this primarily goes for business overhead beyond the product cost) is absurdly small for this industry.

We are NOT ripping anyone off with the prices we charge. Ask anyone with one of our 04+ catback systems if they feel taken advantage of.

Brian C Catts
Cattman Performance

 

This is like watching the CE Y-pipe thread. How one, or a few, unhappy customers can skew the reputation of a “Mom and Pop” shop. I guess for some people “Made in China” is the only symbol of quality they know for mass produced recycled widgets. Maybe Corey/Redlinemax needs to scale back on some orders for a while to regroup. It takes a long time to build a reputation and a very short one to destroy it.

Like others have said; you don’t like the product, just return it. You want a unique piece, put up with delays. Your want to vent, see a psychiatrist. The not so visible defect from that grille is pale in comparison to what Nissan allows on its Max.

P.S.: I have never ordered from Redlinemax and have no affiliation what so ever.

 

Then by the same token, when the grill was announced and everybody was saying how happy they were with Redline as a company and their products and services and how Corey is a great guy (which I don't doubt) for making the part for the 6th gen, that thread, too, should have been in the Vendor section, no? Isn't that part of the vendor experience too? And there have been many positive threads about the products that Redline has put forth, the new front bumpers that are being sported by several of our Max brothers have received a lot of positive pub as well as these grills.

Disclaimer, I have not had any dealings with Redline nor any other vendor as I am 100% stock so I do not have a bias (at least I don't think I do) on this subject. In business, you have to take the good with the bad, and with the bad you have to turn that into a positive. Maybe he will be able to send out new mesh inserts to those that are unhappy once his supply issues have been taken care of, with a coupon for a 10% off of their next Redline purchase!! Just a thought.

 

I don't have a biased opinion, I keep my business good or bad with the people that caused me the problem, I have done over 80% of my car mods myself or with other shops, check out my homepage for proof. I just don't fire up my computer and start yappen and all of a sudden more **** gets piled in, more comments get made and all of a sudden RedLineMax is not a good company to deal with. If Corey messes with my car, he will hear it from me personally, man to man, thats the way I do business, this thread forms malice against a business that based on the truth is anything but. Granted Guzman had a problem, but now people will have a perception that this is what they can expect from doing business with RedLineMax and that is farther from the TRUTH...

That is my independent unbiased opinion...

 

Disagree, those threads show the new product, installs, different rides and colors and highlight new styles or ideas. If your order for that part went to **** or you got the run around from a seller, that goes in the vendor or dealer experience section. When the RSA tires where blowing up left and right, those threads where all moved to the wheels and tires section, this is no different...

That's a positive thought I agree with...

 

Good points brought up here by madmik....Small product runs, small supply sources for a small market sometimes result in delays. As someone said above, Corey goes out of his way to try and make people happy, and sometimes he could say "NO, can't do it" but instead he'll say "we'll try" and he'll bust his butt to get it done, even if it takes a little while.

To the original guy who opened this thread:
- I spoke to Corey TODAY and he said that he HAS read this thread, and that he is having account problems with the Org (I'm no network person, so don't ask me what). He asked me to relay to you to CALL HIM on the phone during business hours and he will discuss it with you. I got the perception that he has never talked to you on the phone, but I may be wrong.
- I might add that I didn't seem to have any trouble getting in touch with him


BTW, as to whoever it was who *tried* to bash Cattman....now you're going to try and talk trash about what is probably the MOST RELIABLE Maxima part supplier out there who provides some of the BEST QUALITY parts out there? You gotta be kidding me

 

That's another great point, I don't have any secret RED phone number for Corey, I call his business number and if he's out I call him back, I always have access to him. OK fellow Orger's I'm done, good luck with this thread...

 

Ok guys time for LOCKDOWN of this ugly monster. I think enough has been said, on both sides.
(oh and one more thing, I called Corey today at the shop as well and he answered the phone)

 

whew, i thought you were going to tell "them" about the double-secret shoe-phone that corey has:

 

Wanted to start off by saying that cory sounds similar to Dallas. Prob a nice guy but his lack of organization and sometimes empty promises get under peoples skin. Neither of those guys prob meen any harm but prob just arent the most organized fellows, and prob too nice to say no. On the flip side Cattman I know isnt the biggest company yet brian does a pretty good job of staying organized so I guess it can be done.

On another note I have done a LOT of research on the cost of steel tubing lately because I am ambitiously pursuing the fabrication of custom SFCs for my car. Steel tubing while expensive (prob around 10$/ft for SS exhaust tubing) , and fabrication while also not cheap, with a median price of around 70$/hr for cutom work (and prob less when your producing in semi bulk and outsourcing the work) dont seem to add up to 800$, a figure that I would assume could be improved on given there was more competition in the maxima marketplace.

 

You're right, the cost of materials does not add up to $800*. I'd might as well use this opportunity to admit to everyone that not only do we have to cover overhead beyond product costs, we're actually conducting this business to make money.

We have been charging a bit more than we pay for our parts for quite some time, I'm ashamed to say. Its the same con game the restaurants run, charging more for a meal than the ingredients would cost at the grocery store - the difference goes straight into their pockets.

Well, I suppose this is the end of our 8-year run on maxima.org... I'm sorry to betray everyone's trust, but OTOH it feels great to get this terrible secret off of my chest.

Brian C Catts
Cattman Performance


*Although its a LOT closer than you think - explore the cost difference between a straight "stick" of stainless and tubing mandrel-bent to your specifications, laser-cut flanges in 3/8" plate, amortization of design and manufacturing fixture costs, etc.

 

Hey no faulting yah there. Plus you gotta cover yourself on the extra cost of the great customer service you provide. Not bashin yah, just spreadin info. Plus this is america land of the free market, little competition meens you set the price based on what the market will bear and this market bears 800$.