My mods would include 00vi, OSCAI, Budget Y pipe, Custom Cat-Back. My baseline run was 160.97 hp and 165.19 tq. My A/F ratio was horrible, 11.07. After some tuning with the SAFC-II, we were able to get the A/F ratio to around 13 steadily, and gave us the 174 hp/ 186 tq numbers. Im waiting on the guy to send me the run files so i can upload some pics. SAE Smoothing: 5.

Run Conditions: 99.43 F, 29.16 in-Hg, Humidity: 20%, SAE: 1.04

eckohb

 

is going on ...

But all in all, very impressive #s!<-- and I hardly ever use these stupid "exclamation marks" or upside down i's.

Why are you using Dave Sz's account?

When you do get the run files, can you send them to me?

 

I'm in chicago at his house, so Im just posting under his name for now. I didnt feel like logging out, Im too lazy, lol. The numbers were what I was expecting after being fully tuned. I said 173, and I got it. Dave thought 165. I now need an ECU with a 7100-7200 rev limiter. Or a 5 spd would be great.


eckohb

 

How about both? With the extended rev limiter #1 on that list.

Just curious, the tuning added 14hp and 21 tq? I bet you can feel that. And this is obviously w/o an ECU ...

You still going to send me those data files aren't you?

How many runs did it take to achieve that final #?

 

Ya definitely get the ECU, it'll help you alot.

I think I know which way you meant it but when you say baseline - do you mean stock, or baseline as in before the 00VI but still with the other mods listed, or baseline as in with everything including the 00VI but before tuning?

Interesting to see your AF though.. I'm sure mine's even worse. I'll know soon as my wideband will be hooked up in a couple days or so. Then my ECU's going back to JWT and I'll dyno when it comes back (hopefully it won't take bloody eons )

Also, please send me the run files too - I'd like to see the rest of the curves not just the peak #'s. Thx.

 

we'll need your email addy's, we just got the run files and are going through them now. by baseline, i meant with the VI, and all my mods, but without the tuning. yup, gained 14 hp, 21 tq with the tuning, but it doesnt mean thats what youll expect from SAFC-II. My car was horribly rich.

eckohb

 

Well that's definitely a nice gain just from tuning! I'm sure I'll be just as rich, probably more. But I'm not going the SAFC route as I don't have one, I'm going to log some runs on the street with my wideband and then get JWT to reprogram my ECU for the larger injectors. Tuning gains should be in the same ballpark I'd think.

As soon as I post this I'll send you a PM with my email address. Do you you have any runs from before the VI? (Just to show what it did by itself.)

 

no runs from before the VI, didnt really see the reason to go. I wouldnt have went today if it werent for it needing to be tuned.

 

1: base line
2: Best overall run
3: Highest Torque
4. VI opened at 1200 rpm, just for fun

 

Nice numbers, good to see someone else picked up some more power from a tune also.
He "should have" picked up about 20hp & 20tq from the USIM to VI swap alone. Most people have shown those results so far.
What is your switchover RPM setting 5800, 5900?

 

no, its like 5200 ish. summit switch makes it hard to really get what rpm you want it to open at.

and who the hell shows 20 hp peak gain? perhaps 20 hp and 20 tq at the RPMs the USIM doesnt make horsepower at.

 

The MEVI/00VI typically don't show much peak gain at all, only at the end of the tachometer is where the MEVI showed an average gain og 40whp @ 6.5k. ... as he stated, so get the facts straight before posting what he should and shouldn't have got.


Again, get your facts straight, the VQ30 likes its swithcovers in the low 5ks ...

send files to bizzy1999@hotmail.com

 

VERY similar to mine:

 

You know, looking at those graphs... it looks like the switch should be set around 4600-4800 maybe? The curve starts to drop in that area before going back up after the switchover...

Did you happen to do a run with it open and one with it closed the entire time?

EDIT: I'm an idiot.. I skimmed too quickly and didn't see that your 4th run WAS with it open... hmm well then that's interesting. There's still a bit of a dip before the switchover. I was hoping that wouldn't be the case.

 

Also, can you email me the runfiles?
kevlo2000@yahoo.com

 

Damn, don't be getting your panties in a bunch over where the 20hp gain is at. Did I say across the board? Don't think I did. I was just stating to DandyMax that wanted to know what kinda #s he had before the VI swap, which were probably around 20 below his VI baseline run like most other's are.
Look at the dyno graphs on my homepage to see where I made my increases in peak HP & TQ.

 

My point was that you will not see 20 hp PEAK( highest # point value of graph), most likely about 5-10 peak. And ~ 40whp at 6550, but this is not considered peak gain ... merely at a certain point in the power band.

My last dyno showed a loss of 3 hp peak, but gains of 15whp @ 6550 despite the loss of 3 peak.

And your dyno was not a dynojet, so when you compare yours and eckohb, it's like apples to oranges.

 

How is that not considered peak gain? That's the point of the swap correct?


Comparing any dyno to another is like comparing apples to oranges. Not to mention I wasn't comparing mine to his, just showing the gains over stock USIM and VI baseline before tune.

Again, nice numbers from an auto.

 

Agreed ...



lesson elarned, our opinions of peak hp differ, end of story.

 

i thought that peak numbers meant my 173 and 186 tq. There is no way I gained 20 peak. The point of the VI swap is because its a mod that increases hp over the USIM. It gains like NmexMax said, 5-10 PEAK, but at 6000 and up, the numbers increase dramatically. Im not trying to argue or start a fight, just saying that peak numbers

DandyMax, if you look at the run files where everything isnt jumbled together, you can see the first few runs were being opened earlier, and we changed the switchover point, and there is no dip.

 

davi, nice runs mang. sorry that y'all had trouble with the safc wiring.

you do realize that technosquare's l-spec tune could give you a raised rev limiter.

dave, when are we going to do the 00vi on my car

 

I'll look at the run files you sent - thanks.

But just to clarify, in my last post I wasn't referring to the small dip in your graph that occurs at 4700. I said "dip" but it's really more a small depression, in that if you look at the hp curve (for example) from about 4500 to 5500 there is still a depression, in the sense that the rate of increase slows down from about 4500 until 5100 and then increases again.

Another way to put it would be that if you were to take the rate of increase from before 4500 and extend that curve you would see a bit smoother line and a gain of about 6-8 at around 5100. That would be the curve I would hope to see, instead of it depressing slightly from 4500 to 5100 and then back up again towards the peak at about 6000.

But I'll look at some of the other run files you've sent too.

 

whats this TS L-Spec that you speak of? I'd also prefer the TS/JWT for the timing advance as well. And I see what you mean now. Next dyno trip, ill futz around with the switch point some more.

 

L-spec. Not sure about you 4th genners but for the 5th gens all it does is raise rev limiter, and help "throttle flap closing" on TBW cars, so for you, it would only raise rev limit, unlike the "full" tune TS, which advances timing, alters A/F and raises rev limit.

Not sure if it's avalable for the 4th gen community though ..

 

hmmm...how expensive is that? If cheap enough, id sacrifice the ignition timing, and I dont need the a/f altering.

 

L-spec is only for autos and costs about $300

 

do you need to send in your ECU for it? 300 is not bad at all. So all it does is raise the rev limiter? Hmmm...theres auto ECUs for sale in the classifieds for like 375, then i could spend the extra 50 for the rev limiter. I've got time to think about it, im in no rush.

BTW, i did these 17 runs on my heavy 17s. I forgot to bring my wheel lock so i could put the sawblades on. Would that have made any difference in numbers?

 

Man, I think something is wrong with my VI, when I put your runs over mine, yours are elevated. And at 6500 RPM it is about a 10hp difference. I dont know if it is the catback or if it is my VI.

 

eckohb, try www.car-part.com $75 for a sued ECU core, or PM me, I have an auto ECU for a 95/6.

Hows your tune kevlo911?

 

Are you sure Technosquare can raise the limit on ALL auto ECU's? When I talked to them (Brian IIRC) a few months back I was told that they weren't positive it would work on all autos. In fact, that the issue wasn't so much auto or 5-spd but that there seemed to be different versions of the ECU's and they couldn't guarantee that it would work, and that on some autos it hadn't.

I'm going from memory here (which isn't always the best) so don't take my word for it 100%... All I'm saying is call up Technosquare and talk to them before buying..

 

yeah, i had heard that too. some people said that all autos and no 5 spds would get it, and some say that it doesnt matter about the tranny, just about the version of the ECU. I wont be looking into an ECU for another month or so, got some legal business to tend to first. Kevlo911, can you send me your runfiles? I dunno if it would be the cat-back, mine is a 2.5" crush bent exhaust. Where it's crush bent, the diameter is like 2-2.25". eckohb9@yahoo.com

 

I need to go to the dyno again and I will be set Should be same numbers as you with some AF tuning and then some timing to pass you

 

haha, damn timing advance.

 

i just looked at your run files, and you're A/F ratio with the way you had it tuned was running lean compared to mine. And you're numbers arent off by that much, it could just be the two seperate dynos we went to. Dont worry, once you get your car tuned specifically for your car, youll be where Im at or higher with the AF tuning. Then of course, you gotta pull out the ignition timing...cheater...

 

I went to Great Lakes Dragway tonite, and the best i could do is

R/T .006
60' 2.353
330 6.455
1/8 9.824
MPH 73.40
1000 12.699
1/4 15.153
MPH 93.05

thats with all the mods listed in my signature, only on 15" sawblades. I couldnt hook up for ****. A camaro with an LT1 was pulling 3.383 60'
I beat an Evo VIII, apparently couldn't drive. I also had fun murdering this same Civic Si all nite . He couldnt do better than 15.6, and he was talking ish about my car to his friend when we were in the pits. Lotsa 17-16 sec. cars there today.

 

Nice trap for that 15.

What did the Si owner do after you him?

 

Pulled a fly-by on the return lane?

 

one run he actually kept going after I braked and passed me on the return lane. I was like wtf is this guy doing? We ended being right by each other in the pits, and my g/f came back and told me he was telling his friends my car was an ugly POS. I had Dave Sz black sawblades on, so I guess it's not the greatest looking, but all he got was a good view of was my SuperMan sticker on my rear window I was hoping for 14s, but it was 85 degrees out with a slight headwind. If I could get the 60' down, I think I could get there.

 

Almost perfect RT, and that is a good trap speed for a 15 run. My highest is 92.6 with a better 60' and 1/4. You'll def be running good with a better 60'
Nice job!

Can't wait to see how the VI will affect my times.

 

what are you using to activate the VI? i heard the vafc could do that, so how come you chose the safc over the vafc?