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So whats the most HP anyone is puttin out on a N/A 3.5 ?

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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 09:05 PM
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So whats the most HP anyone is puttin out on a N/A 3.5 ?

Im just wondering to see what people are putting out. I remember some 250+ hp numbers, but im just wondering whats the most any one has gotten from a N/A 3.5 .
Old Jun 10, 2007 | 09:30 PM
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i believe sr20den at 265whp.
Old Jun 10, 2007 | 09:56 PM
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i believe that is the highest na 3.5. .... what do you got??
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On Dynojets:

96sleeper @ 273
SR20DEN @ 265
ULISES @ 252
ALLBlackMAX @ 248

And there are a good handful in the low/mid 240's.


Originally Posted by AnDyMaN
what do you got??
IIRC, he's got 229 SAE, 240 UNC. on that particular day.
Old Jun 11, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
On Dynojets:

96sleeper @ 273
SR20DEN @ 265
ULISES @ 252
ALLBlackMAX @ 248

And there are a good handful in the low/mid 240's.


IIRC, he's got 229 SAE, 240 UNC. on that particular day.

Im in that handfull...242.3
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Gotta post 15 replies before I can start a new thread, so here I go ...

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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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Im in that handfull...242.3
There are a few of us, but I think as the numbers get into the 240's, they become more common, hence why I did not start listing everyone in that realm.

Also, peak numbers = :/ , whereas area under the curve and overall shape of the curve is best/most desired.
Old Jun 11, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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And on a n/a 3.0?



(not tryin to steal your thread, CT, jw)




Also, what kind of numbers is Jime runnin at?
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
There are a few of us, but I think as the numbers get into the 240's, they become more common, hence why I did not start listing everyone in that realm.

Also, peak numbers = :/ , whereas area under the curve and overall shape of the curve is best/most desired.
Although, I believe their is only one NA auto max in the 240's and that's you.
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Originally Posted by MAXSE5SPD
i believe sr20den at 265whp.

Damm those are numbers im lookin for. |What mods does he have?

The reason im askin is cause im considering sellin my max and maybe tradin for a G, even tho i havent come across one on the highway that bet me yet(I havent raced and heavly modded ones).
And alot of people are tellin me i should just do a few more mods to the max....


Mods im thinking of getting are intake spacers, UD pulley and polish the upper manifold and maybe remove the butterfly.

The last time I dynoed I was having some MAF problems (only put down 231hp ), finaly got a 2k1 unit and car runs 10x better.
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Not to discount what 96sleeper did. I still give props to him. But his car is no longer NA and he had aftermarket cams. I still have the stock cams.
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Although, I believe their is only one NA auto max in the 240's and that's you.
Nope, I'm auto also.
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I bet Jime would have the auto record if he would put his car on a dyno.
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MaxSpeed96CT... the port/polise upper lower mani doesnt help , my buddy dynoed his 02 6spd b4 and after no real gains ! not worth the $$$ get a 50 shot instead.
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SR20DEN what mods do you have ?
Old Jun 11, 2007 | 08:14 PM
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me: 440whp, engine completely stock.

It's a factory freak, what can I say



seriously though, you might want to check with the "more hardcore" guys in the all-motor section......
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
Not to discount what 96sleeper did. I still give props to him. But his car is no longer NA and he had aftermarket cams. I still have the stock cams.

Your tune is amazing SR. I have been tracing some of your posts, and the info is there if you can understand it. I want to understand any of what you do and know about timing and air flow.
Old Jun 11, 2007 | 08:52 PM
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My goal I guess would be 100hp per liter which would be 350hp or about 297whp. Possible?
Old Jun 11, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AllBlackMax
Nope, I'm auto also.
I forgot about the 6th gens.


Originally Posted by SR20DEN
I bet Jime would have the auto record if he would put his car on a dyno.
Agreed
Old Jun 11, 2007 | 10:50 PM
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Is it possible to break into the 240s without headers?
Old Jun 11, 2007 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by NiSmOVQ35
SR20DEN what mods do you have ?
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 11:01 PM
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well, im guessing you're running stock timing. you might wanna get a emanage ultimate and (if you know how) advance the ignition timing. it'll help get every last bit of power you can get.
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EU is the way to go for 240?
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has anyone dyno'd and tuned with 3rd gen cattman headers? or am I about to be the first? Installing AF management in 2 weeks then hopping on the dyno
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has anyone dyno'd and tuned with 3rd gen cattman headers? or am I about to be the first? Installing AF management in 2 weeks then hopping on the dyno
IIRC utsusu (sp?) has dyno'd 3rd gen cattman headers. I dont remember what his numbers are though.

Ill be dynoing my 3rd gens too here in about a month when Im back in Austin.
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My mods are plastered all over the All Motor forums. It's been so long since I have made a list that I am not even sure anymore what I have.
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Maxim(a)SerjVQ
Is it possible to break into the 240s without headers?
It's possible, very tough but possible.
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by AllBlackMax
My goal I guess would be 100hp per liter which would be 350hp or about 297whp. Possible?
300whp has been everyones goal since day1. There is a 350Z that made 305whp recently, but his setup won't run on pump gas.
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 06:21 AM
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IIRC Jime's dyno was @ ~ 249 or so. But that curve, + lightweight = mucho fasto.

He's working w/ full A33B software now. But has since seen some negative affects from it. But I'm sure he and the others running that set-up will find a way around it.

Originally Posted by Bufflomike
Your tune is amazing SR. I have been tracing some of your posts,
Trace them all. You won't regret it, and you'll learn a lot.

Originally Posted by huffdaddy2008
I dont remember what his numbers are though.
230/230
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=510229. It's an ongoing thread, so read it all.


Originally Posted by BrianV
EU is the way to go for 240?
It's been achieved w/o it, and it's not that hard even w/o it. But yes, it couldn't hurt and is probably the smartest/most efficient way.

Originally Posted by NiSmOVQ35
the port/polise upper lower mani doesn't help , my buddy dynoed his 02 6spd b4 and after no real gains
That's because you have to do it right, and not just a rough job. Port matching comes to mind. For the time & effort/$, you could do something else to gain.

Originally Posted by SR20DEN
but his setup won't run on pump gas.
But he could calm down on that CR and still have or be very close to that whp #. But that is at this point, maybe.

Originally Posted by MaximumPower01
And on a n/a 3.0?
DandyMax, 220/205. http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=433265
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
I'm still ticked I never got to re-dyno before it seized. Those numbers are more than a year old, pre-EU w/timing, pre-cutout, pre custom MAFless intake and a few other things. I am positive the real number as of last fall was substantially better. Unfortunately I just can't prove it, and any dyno I do this year will be on a different engine with a couple additional mods so not apples to apples anymore.
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i would love to see a 300whp max, but it seems that people just go FI or trade cars when they get that serious, not to mention that it would require a lot of work to do such a thing.
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Originally Posted by DandyMax
I'm still ticked I never got to re-dyno before it seized. Those numbers were almost a year old, pre-EU w/timing, pre-cutout, pre custom MAFless intake and a few other things. I am positive the real number as of last fall was substantially better. Unfortunately I just can't prove it, and any dyno I do this year will be on a different engine with a couple additional mods so not apples to apples anymore.
I wanted to mention that because I KNOW you were making more than that particular dyno reflected. All that dyno really had in terms of tune, was AFR. But I thought I'd let you comment on the details of it.
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
I wanted to mention that because I KNOW you were making more than that particular dyno reflected. All that dyno really had in terms of tune, was AFR. But I thought I'd let you comment on the details of it.
It had a bit of timing via a JWT, but not nearly as much as what I eventually ran with the EU.

But I wouldn't have minded if you'd commented further. You seem pretty conscientious in trying to post accurate information...

I do feel a little weird saying it had more than 220 because I know I can't prove it now and I'd rather have a solid runfile to post instead, but nevertheless, I'm just stating what I believe it had, FWIW...
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N/a 3.0

I have a 3.0 VQ and put a set of Nismo heads with the S-2 cams and it Dynos at 260 whp and 215 ft/lbs torque. It is a track car with Map , Motec and Headers. After putting these heads on the 3.0 I am confident that I can get 300+ from a 3.5.
Old Jul 11, 2007 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Niz-Dat
I have a 3.0 VQ and put a set of Nismo heads with the S-2 cams and it Dynos at 260 whp and 215 ft/lbs torque. It is a track car with Map , Motec and Headers. After putting these heads on the 3.0 I am confident that I can get 300+ from a 3.5.
And your runfiles/dyno sheets are?
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+1 for runfiles/dyno sheets.

What rpm is that 260 at?
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I don't have a scanner available since I just have the print outs. If someone has a scanner and a fax I could send the sheets out that way. The 260 is at 6300 rpm and the torque is a flat line from 3750 to 6300 rpm. I am also using the 3.5 intake with the pathfinder TB.
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Originally Posted by Niz-Dat
I don't have a scanner available since I just have the print outs. If someone has a scanner and a fax I could send the sheets out that way. The 260 is at 6300 rpm and the torque is a flat line from 3750 to 6300 rpm. I am also using the 3.5 intake with the pathfinder TB.
If it was done on a DynoJet, please get your run files.
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I have always just had the paper print out and did not know you could get an electronic file, but I will have them email it to me.



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