FRAM oil filter question...
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FRAM oil filter question...
How is the FRAM 'Double Guard' filter? It's 7 or 8 dollars. Is that acceptable? It seemed to be the best one Wal-MArt had. I didn't really want to go all the way to the dealership just for the filter.
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Originally posted by maximawanabee
Besides having that black stuff on the bottom for grip, which really helps, you can find MUCH better filters out there.
Besides having that black stuff on the bottom for grip, which really helps, you can find MUCH better filters out there.
What kind are recommended? Let's say something I could get at an Autozone or Advance Aout Parts.
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OK, I'll jump in. First, let me say that I'm no oil filter expert. But from what I've read on here the past 3-4 months no one seems to like Fram. They say they are POS. Some people prefer to stick with the OEM Nissan filters, you can get them online or in bulk packs from the dealership for as low as $4 each. I've also heard good things about the Purolator PureOne Microfilter. (Not the regular Purolator, the PureOne) I think they go for about $6-$7. Only problem is that they don't make them for the 3.5 VQ yet, only the 3.0. K&N and Mobil 1 are great filters if you don't mind paying $10-$11 each. I'm going with OEM filters for the first few changes until I switch to synthetic oil, then I think I'll be using either K&N or Mobil 1...whichever is cheaper.
Originally posted by BiggD23
OK, I'll jump in. First, let me say that I'm no oil filter expert. But from what I've read on here the past 3-4 months no one seems to like Fram. They say they are POS. Some people prefer to stick with the OEM Nissan filters, you can get them online or in bulk packs from the dealership for as low as $4 each. I've also heard good things about the Purolator PureOne Microfilter. (Not the regular Purolator, the PureOne) I think they go for about $6-$7. Only problem is that they don't make them for the 3.5 VQ yet, only the 3.0. K&N and Mobil 1 are great filters if you don't mind paying $10-$11 each. I'm going with OEM filters for the first few changes until I switch to synthetic oil, then I think I'll be using either K&N or Mobil 1...whichever is cheaper.
OK, I'll jump in. First, let me say that I'm no oil filter expert. But from what I've read on here the past 3-4 months no one seems to like Fram. They say they are POS. Some people prefer to stick with the OEM Nissan filters, you can get them online or in bulk packs from the dealership for as low as $4 each. I've also heard good things about the Purolator PureOne Microfilter. (Not the regular Purolator, the PureOne) I think they go for about $6-$7. Only problem is that they don't make them for the 3.5 VQ yet, only the 3.0. K&N and Mobil 1 are great filters if you don't mind paying $10-$11 each. I'm going with OEM filters for the first few changes until I switch to synthetic oil, then I think I'll be using either K&N or Mobil 1...whichever is cheaper.
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Originally posted by 02'maxed-out
stick with OEM... i have run all my cars with Mobil 1 fully snythetic with OEM filters... Mobil 1 filter not that great... OEM is the way...
stick with OEM... i have run all my cars with Mobil 1 fully snythetic with OEM filters... Mobil 1 filter not that great... OEM is the way...
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Originally posted by BiggD23
OK, I'll jump in. First, let me say that I'm no oil filter expert. But from what I've read on here the past 3-4 months no one seems to like Fram. They say they are POS. Some people prefer to stick with the OEM Nissan filters, you can get them online or in bulk packs from the dealership for as low as $4 each. I've also heard good things about the Purolator PureOne Microfilter. (Not the regular Purolator, the PureOne) I think they go for about $6-$7. Only problem is that they don't make them for the 3.5 VQ yet, only the 3.0. K&N and Mobil 1 are great filters if you don't mind paying $10-$11 each. I'm going with OEM filters for the first few changes until I switch to synthetic oil, then I think I'll be using either K&N or Mobil 1...whichever is cheaper.
OK, I'll jump in. First, let me say that I'm no oil filter expert. But from what I've read on here the past 3-4 months no one seems to like Fram. They say they are POS. Some people prefer to stick with the OEM Nissan filters, you can get them online or in bulk packs from the dealership for as low as $4 each. I've also heard good things about the Purolator PureOne Microfilter. (Not the regular Purolator, the PureOne) I think they go for about $6-$7. Only problem is that they don't make them for the 3.5 VQ yet, only the 3.0. K&N and Mobil 1 are great filters if you don't mind paying $10-$11 each. I'm going with OEM filters for the first few changes until I switch to synthetic oil, then I think I'll be using either K&N or Mobil 1...whichever is cheaper.
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Originally posted by VQ35DE
PL-14459 & PL-24458 & PL-14620 and PL-14622 all fit the VQ35DE. I have a PL-24458 (largest) on my car now.
PL-14459 & PL-24458 & PL-14620 and PL-14622 all fit the VQ35DE. I have a PL-24458 (largest) on my car now.
None of those are meant for the 3.5 liter V6 that we have, look up those part numbers on Purolator's website and they are meant for 2 liter 4 cylinder cars. I'm sure they fit but I wouldn't want to have any problems with my warranty because I was using an oil filter that was meant for a much smaller engine. Especially not when there are other options designed for the 3.5 VQ. I look at it like this...if they were meant to be used on the 3.5 VQ why wouldn't Purolator just add it to the list for those part numbers? Just my $.02.
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The filters do not know what engine they are on. If it has room, has 20mm x 1.5mm thread size ,anti-drain rubber and a 8-10 psi bypass valve, and correct gasket fit, then ANY filter could be used.
If you do not want to use the largest ( for faster flow and better filtration) filter , that's OK with me, but I always have and will keep up this habit.
If you do not want to use the largest ( for faster flow and better filtration) filter , that's OK with me, but I always have and will keep up this habit.
Originally posted by BiggD23
Didn't we go through this the other day?
Didn't we go through this the other day?
Too often. For some reason you 5th gen guys like re-inventing the wheel several times.
VQ30 and VQ35 filters will all interchange. The only exception I'm aware of is the STP S6941 oversized filter, which has rubbed the wheel well off a member's VQ35 equipped Maxima. No such issue is prevalent on VQ30 equipped Maximas, regardless of year.
Aftermarket filter makers are only using what cross refererences what Nissan is OEM'ing for that particular vehicle.
The smaller and cheaper (65F00 OEM) filters used on the late 2k1 and 2k2 on Maximas are a COST CUTTING MOVE BY NISSAN. Nothing more.
The aftermarket equivalents to the "new" 65F00 OEM filter are simply being used by Purolator, Mobil 1 (e.g. M1-108), etc. This filter has been used for years on the SR20DE Sentras and other Nissan apps. That "2 liter 4 cylinder" reference you make is EXACTLY what Nissan is now spec'ing for VQ35s and late VQ30s made in 2001.
Your best oil filter bets for VQ35DE engines are:
Mobil M1-110
Bosch 3323
Nissan OEM 15208-9E000
I can't personally try others, as I don't have a VQ35 to see if they work. All 3 above are excellent choices.
I'm not a big Purolator fan, but the 24458 oversized filter will work as well.
I'll bet in 24 hours this is asked again.
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Originally posted by VQ35DE
The filters do not know what engine they are on. If it has room, has 20mm x 1.5mm thread size ,anti-drain rubber and a 8-10 psi bypass valve, and correct gasket fit, then ANY filter could be used.
If you do not want to use the largest ( for faster flow and better filtration) filter , that's OK with me, but I always have and will keep up this habit.
The filters do not know what engine they are on. If it has room, has 20mm x 1.5mm thread size ,anti-drain rubber and a 8-10 psi bypass valve, and correct gasket fit, then ANY filter could be used.
If you do not want to use the largest ( for faster flow and better filtration) filter , that's OK with me, but I always have and will keep up this habit.
Originally posted by bill99gxe
I'll bet in 24 hours this is asked again.
I'll bet in 24 hours this is asked again.
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Originally posted by RxMan
What kind are recommended? Let's say something I could get at an Autozone or Advance Aout Parts.
What kind are recommended? Let's say something I could get at an Autozone or Advance Aout Parts.
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Originally posted by bill99gxe
Most late model Nissans use 14psi bypass valves, not 8-10 psi.
Most late model Nissans use 14psi bypass valves, not 8-10 psi.
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Re: FRAM oil filter question...
Originally posted by RxMan
How is the FRAM 'Double Guard' filter? It's 7 or 8 dollars. Is that acceptable? It seemed to be the best one Wal-MArt had. I didn't really want to go all the way to the dealership just for the filter.
How is the FRAM 'Double Guard' filter? It's 7 or 8 dollars. Is that acceptable? It seemed to be the best one Wal-MArt had. I didn't really want to go all the way to the dealership just for the filter.
Originally posted by VQ35DE
I KNOW the OEM nissan filter has a 14 psi valve, but the 8-10 psi would give greater and faster flow under restrictive conditions.
I KNOW the OEM nissan filter has a 14 psi valve, but the 8-10 psi would give greater and faster flow under restrictive conditions.
You didn't know that the VQ30DE engines can't use the M1-105 Mobil filter, so I have to assume a low common denominator.
That 8-10psi comes at the sacrifice of actually filtering the oil as often as Nissan specifies. I suppose if you visit 5k and up on a very consistent basis (e.g. Honda engines) a lower bypass valve setting is a good idea to maintain maximum oil flow.
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Originally posted by bill99gxe
Too often. For some reason you 5th gen guys like re-inventing the wheel several times.
VQ30 and VQ35 filters will all interchange. The only exception I'm aware of is the STP S6941 oversized filter, which has rubbed the wheel well off a member's VQ35 equipped Maxima. No such issue is prevalent on VQ30 equipped Maximas, regardless of year.
Aftermarket filter makers are only using what cross refererences what Nissan is OEM'ing for that particular vehicle.
The smaller and cheaper (65F00 OEM) filters used on the late 2k1 and 2k2 on Maximas are a COST CUTTING MOVE BY NISSAN. Nothing more.
The aftermarket equivalents to the "new" 65F00 OEM filter are simply being used by Purolator, Mobil 1 (e.g. M1-108), etc. This filter has been used for years on the SR20DE Sentras and other Nissan apps. That "2 liter 4 cylinder" reference you make is EXACTLY what Nissan is now spec'ing for VQ35s and late VQ30s made in 2001.
Your best oil filter bets for VQ35DE engines are:
Mobil M1-110
Bosch 3323
Nissan OEM 15208-9E000
I can't personally try others, as I don't have a VQ35 to see if they work. All 3 above are excellent choices.
I'm not a big Purolator fan, but the 24458 oversized filter will work as well.
I'll bet in 24 hours this is asked again. [/B]
Too often. For some reason you 5th gen guys like re-inventing the wheel several times.
VQ30 and VQ35 filters will all interchange. The only exception I'm aware of is the STP S6941 oversized filter, which has rubbed the wheel well off a member's VQ35 equipped Maxima. No such issue is prevalent on VQ30 equipped Maximas, regardless of year.
Aftermarket filter makers are only using what cross refererences what Nissan is OEM'ing for that particular vehicle.
The smaller and cheaper (65F00 OEM) filters used on the late 2k1 and 2k2 on Maximas are a COST CUTTING MOVE BY NISSAN. Nothing more.
The aftermarket equivalents to the "new" 65F00 OEM filter are simply being used by Purolator, Mobil 1 (e.g. M1-108), etc. This filter has been used for years on the SR20DE Sentras and other Nissan apps. That "2 liter 4 cylinder" reference you make is EXACTLY what Nissan is now spec'ing for VQ35s and late VQ30s made in 2001.
Your best oil filter bets for VQ35DE engines are:
Mobil M1-110
Bosch 3323
Nissan OEM 15208-9E000
I can't personally try others, as I don't have a VQ35 to see if they work. All 3 above are excellent choices.
I'm not a big Purolator fan, but the 24458 oversized filter will work as well.
I'll bet in 24 hours this is asked again. [/B]
What's up Bill, long time no speak my friend. I've been spending waaay to much time in Korea these months. Anyway, back to business...did you ever confirm an oversized synthetic filter for the VQ30 5th gen? I've been using the trusty STP 6941 for some time now (and forgetting each time to do the analysis --
) but just wondering where things stood these days. Regards my friend.
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