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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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considering the mileage I think you should go with 5w-40 or 10w-40. Its a little thicker since your engine's tolerances aren't what they were when new.
Old Jun 29, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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I have a question I have a 2001 Maxima SE with 130,000 miles. Which oil would be appropriate for my car?

Eneos 5w30
Mobil 1 5w30
Mobil 1 Synthetic 10w30

or should I scrap the Eneos 5w30 and go with the 10w30 since its summer and I live in Chicago?
Mobil 1 Synthetic 5w30.

ONLY use thicker oils IF YOU HAVE A LEAK. If you don't have a leak, no reason to switch. You want the oil to start flowing right away ASAP. Most of engine wear and damage happens at startup.
Old Jun 29, 2009 | 10:03 PM
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guess you learn something everyday. I guess thats an old mechanics practice.
Old Jun 29, 2009 | 11:36 PM
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well engines are so reliable these days that leaking is not a common problem anymore
Old Jun 30, 2009 | 12:31 PM
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thanks playa and col ronson for your answers. I am also under the impression that by having a good quality oil and a good oil filter such as Pure One that I can increase or better improve my MPG, is this true?

Thanks in advance
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hmmmmm, dont know about that one.
Old Jun 30, 2009 | 04:06 PM
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Synthetic (because it is more slippery) will give you slightly better gas mileage, but you will probably be hard pressed to measure the size of the improvement.
Old Jun 30, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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i over fill my 97 max with 4.7 qt. is it bad for the engine?
Old Jun 30, 2009 | 05:41 PM
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i over fill my 97 max with 4.7 qt. is it bad for the engine?
Just fill it w/ however much the manual tells you, or slightly less.
Old Jun 30, 2009 | 05:51 PM
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that mobile 1 extended is good stuff so are royal purple that one i use
and so is castrol synthetic there all good just dont forget if your using
synthetic oil make sure you use a synthetic oil filter if your planing on
extending your oil change interval because the el cheapo ones that are made

of paper might not hold up as a better built syn oil filter
Old Jun 30, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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yeah synthetic lubricates better, so your engine parts have less resistance between them. however, the mileage improvement is probably 20 extra miles per 1000. Its hard to notice. of course i've been using M1 for the entire ownership of the car so who knows.
Old Jun 30, 2009 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Col Ronson
yeah synthetic lubricates better, so your engine parts have less resistance between them. however, the mileage improvement is probably 20 extra miles per 1000. Its hard to notice. of course i've been using M1 for the entire ownership of the car so who knows.
A good quality synthetic oil will not only provide better lubrication between moving parts, but the uniform size of the molecules also results in less friction within the fluid itself, thereby resulting in better fuel economy. Users of a high quality synthetic lubricants often experience fuel economy gains between 2 and 5 percent...generally not a huge deal/deciding factor for most motorists, but commercial drivers and fleet operators stand to save a lot of money by switching to synthetic drivetrain fluids.
Old Jun 30, 2009 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by wai18
i over fill my 97 max with 4.7 qt. is it bad for the engine?
Not a good idea. You should fill the engine so that the oil is just at the mark on the dipstick. Overfilling can easily cause the oil to foam, reducing its effectiveness. I like to put in 4 quarts and then run the engine for a day. I then put in enough additional oil (usually in two applications) to bring the oil sump up to the dipstick mark.
Old Jul 1, 2009 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jbrags
that mobile 1 extended is good stuff so are royal purple that one i use
and so is castrol synthetic there all good just dont forget if your using
synthetic oil make sure you use a synthetic oil filter if your planing on
extending your oil change interval because the el cheapo ones that are made

of paper might not hold up as a better built syn oil filter

I just bought my first synthetic oil..., Mobil 1 Extended Performance with the Mobil 1 Extended Performance filter. I figure, you have used it? I am still trying to find a lot of reviews on the M1 EP, but just have not found it around here. Can anybody give me a link? I will do my first synthetic oil change sometime this month when my 08 Max hits 30k.

How many miles can one conveniently go on the M1 EP?

I would like to try Amsoil too sometime. I hear that is the best synthetic oil out there. Any link to this too?

Who has tried what Amsoil and what were the results? I would appreciate this info.
Old Jul 8, 2009 | 11:07 PM
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hi guys,
i have a 96 maxima with 113000 miles with the vq30de
i was just wondering which oil and oil filter will be best for my car to get the most out of it and not ruin the engine?
Old Jul 24, 2009 | 03:06 AM
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is anybody in here?
Old Jul 24, 2009 | 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by jhonny
hi guys,
i have a 96 maxima with 113000 miles with the vq30de
i was just wondering which oil and oil filter will be best for my car to get the most out of it and not ruin the engine?
I'd go with Castrol GTX High Mileage and a Wix filter.
Old Jul 26, 2009 | 08:05 AM
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I'd go with Castrol GTX High Mileage and a Wix filter.

a wix oil filter absolutly yes! considering WIX makes
the same K&N oil filter and NAPA golds as well

as far as a using a good oil goes i love ROYAL PURPLE
not just because i can get a deal on it but because of its
long history behind it its been around since the 50"s
with that kind of reputation nowonder a lot of engine rebuilders
love it i use it in my own 96 and my engine loves it!

by that i mean i dont hear any drag on my engine quick starts
all the time slight power increase of 3-5 horsepower and
slightly better fuel econo twoo

so its awsome stuff...!!!
Old Aug 6, 2009 | 02:56 PM
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So what do we think about this? http://www.microgreenfilter.com/
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^ Hmmm..interesting.
Try it out and report back.
Old Aug 14, 2009 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bill99gxe
Recommended oils for all Maxima engines, ranked in order of preference based upon my own observations:
  • Dino and "Blend" oils:

    Castrol GTX 5W/30
    Chevron Supreme 5W/30
    Mobil 1 Drive Clean 5W/30
    Mobil 1 Drive Clean Plus 5W/30
    Pennzoil PureBase 5W/30
    ULX-110 5W/30

    Drain Interval: Up to 5k
  • Synthetic oil:

    Amsoil TSO Series 2000 0W/30 Synthetic
    Mobil 1 SuperSyn 5W/30
    Amsoil ASF 5W/30 Synthetic
    Redline 5W/30

    Drain interval: Up to 10k with oil filter change halfway through chosen interval (i.e. 8k drain interval -> 4k oil filter change)

    NOTE: For hot climates (i.e. south), 10W/30 can be substituted and in colder climates (i.e. north), 0W/30 can be substituted.

Oils to stay away from IF going over 3,000 mile intervals:
  • Any Valvoline Oil (consistent sub-par analysis results, all tend to shear down real quickly; additive packages are inferior to other brands)
  • Castrol Syntec Blend Castrol Syntec Full Synthetic Oil [NOT GTX] (consistent so-so to sup-part analyses results and shady marketing practices)
  • Royal Purple Oil (thins in viscosity relatively quickly and too expensive considering there are other synthetic oils that do not thin as fast that are less expensive)


    NOTE: These oils will protect fine up to 3,000 miles, they just don't represent a good value based upon their additive package and/or their oil analysis reports for Maxima-specific engines. It does not mean they "suck".

Recommended Oil Filters for VQ engines, ranked in order of preference based upon my own observations:
  • Mobil 1 M1-105 (fits VQ35DE only)
  • Nissan OEM 15208-9E000 ONLY (for all VQ30DE and VQ35DE engines)
  • Mobil 1 M1-110 (fits both VQ engines, but bypass valve isn't as good as M1-105 filter)
  • Amsoil SDF-20 (fits both VQ engines)

Oil Filters to avoid:
  • Nissan OEM 15208-65F00 (specified for VQ35DE by Nissan dealer; refuse to purchase this filter as it has cardboard endcaps like low quality Fram filters; insist on the dealer using the 15208-9E000 oil filter as it has a better overall construction quality)
  • STP S6941 (Production change in mid-2003 to Mexico has created inferior quality; Some fitment issues on VQ35DE engines, so only VQ30DE engines should use this one)
  • Bosch 3323 (Production change in mid-2003 to Mexico has created inferior quality; for all VQ30DE and VQ35DE engines)
  • Any SuperTech filter (Due to production change in mid-2003 to Mexico that has resulted in inferior quality)
  • Any filter made by Fram (consistently poor construction quality)
  • Amsoil SDF-13 (pricier than SDF-20 and smaller)
  • Mobil 1 M1-108 (pricier than M1-110 and smaller)
Just changed my oil with GTX 5w30 and the Mobil 1 M110 filter.
Makes a man FEEL good...
Thanks for the tip!
Old Aug 15, 2009 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by bill99gxe
Recommended oils for all Maxima engines, ranked in order of preference based upon my own observations:
  • Dino and "Blend" oils:

    Castrol GTX 5W/30
    Chevron Supreme 5W/30
    Mobil 1 Drive Clean 5W/30
    Mobil 1 Drive Clean Plus 5W/30
    Pennzoil PureBase 5W/30
    ULX-110 5W/30

    Drain Interval: Up to 5k
  • Synthetic oil:

    Amsoil TSO Series 2000 0W/30 Synthetic
    Mobil 1 SuperSyn 5W/30
    Amsoil ASF 5W/30 Synthetic
    Redline 5W/30

    Drain interval: Up to 10k with oil filter change halfway through chosen interval (i.e. 8k drain interval -> 4k oil filter change)

    NOTE: For hot climates (i.e. south), 10W/30 can be substituted and in colder climates (i.e. north), 0W/30 can be substituted.

Oils to stay away from IF going over 3,000 mile intervals:
  • Any Valvoline Oil (consistent sub-par analysis results, all tend to shear down real quickly; additive packages are inferior to other brands)
  • Castrol Syntec Blend Castrol Syntec Full Synthetic Oil [NOT GTX] (consistent so-so to sup-part analyses results and shady marketing practices)
  • Royal Purple Oil (thins in viscosity relatively quickly and too expensive considering there are other synthetic oils that do not thin as fast that are less expensive)


    NOTE: These oils will protect fine up to 3,000 miles, they just don't represent a good value based upon their additive package and/or their oil analysis reports for Maxima-specific engines. It does not mean they "suck".

Recommended Oil Filters for VQ engines, ranked in order of preference based upon my own observations:
  • Mobil 1 M1-105 (fits VQ35DE only)
  • Nissan OEM 15208-9E000 ONLY (for all VQ30DE and VQ35DE engines)
  • Mobil 1 M1-110 (fits both VQ engines, but bypass valve isn't as good as M1-105 filter)
  • Amsoil SDF-20 (fits both VQ engines)

Oil Filters to avoid:
  • Nissan OEM 15208-65F00 (specified for VQ35DE by Nissan dealer; refuse to purchase this filter as it has cardboard endcaps like low quality Fram filters; insist on the dealer using the 15208-9E000 oil filter as it has a better overall construction quality)
  • STP S6941 (Production change in mid-2003 to Mexico has created inferior quality; Some fitment issues on VQ35DE engines, so only VQ30DE engines should use this one)
  • Bosch 3323 (Production change in mid-2003 to Mexico has created inferior quality; for all VQ30DE and VQ35DE engines)
  • Any SuperTech filter (Due to production change in mid-2003 to Mexico that has resulted in inferior quality)
  • Any filter made by Fram (consistently poor construction quality)
  • Amsoil SDF-13 (pricier than SDF-20 and smaller)
  • Mobil 1 M1-108 (pricier than M1-110 and smaller)
Originally Posted by 97BlkMaximus
Just changed my oil with GTX 5w30 and the Mobil 1 M110 filter.
Makes a man FEEL good...
Thanks for the tip!
While Bill's orignial posting might still serve as a good baseline, the information is over 6 years old and should not be assumed as being valid today. Formulations change, new API requirements have been instituted, and some of the products identified in the original posting have been replaced/superceded with higher performing products...
Old Aug 16, 2009 | 01:04 PM
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considering the mileage I think you should go with 5w-40 or 10w-40. Its a little thicker since your engine's tolerances aren't what they were when new.

ABSOLUTLY TRUE!
good post from playa_FL

if you got high a mileage engine only use a little thicker oil "especially" important if your due later
some time down the road for an emissions test reason its more
critical to use a little thicker oil on a emission test is blow
by the rings especially if the engine is consuming oil

i never use the factory oem rating oil on my car my car has
250.000kms if i stick with the factory oem 5w30 it will do worse
on a emission test then using a 5w40 synthetic oil thats fact!
reason being the 5w30 is thinner and has more blow by more blow
means more

emisions out the tailpipe the only reason car manufactures use
thin oils in new engines is to help lower fuel consumption and emissions
thats it!!..

in my car its only the best
-5w40 ROYAL PURPLE

-BG MOA oil additive

-NAPA GOLD OIL FILTER
Old Sep 1, 2009 | 08:21 AM
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Where do our oil choices stand now as far as what is better than what? I am currious to know why Castrol EDGE is not mentioned at all. Claims 8x the protection of the leading Mobile 1. I also have read Mobile 1 is more petrolium based than Castrol making it break down faster and lose it's lubricating properties faster. So the closer you get to your 3k mile change the worse your car runs. I have tested the theory to be true with Mobil 1 which is why I am going to test out Castrol. So far Mobile 1 and Royal Purple are pretty similar and the best I have used. Quaker, Shell, Penzoil, Nissan oil are all crap compared to Mobil 1 and RP. I will let you know how the Castrol Edge holds up. I change my oil frequently and use the toughguard filter. I will see if there is a change. Once I find my oil I will start looking for a better filter. Will report back.
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I'll be staying away from castrol gtx for now. Reading that its as thin as water when warmed up is not something I want in the POS oil burning engine I have...
Old Sep 1, 2009 | 11:37 PM
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. . . So the closer you get to your 3k mile change the worse your car runs. . . . I change my oil frequently and use the toughguard filter. . . .
Why bother with synthetic motor oil if you change it frequently -- like every 3 K miles? (Nissan's shortert oil change interval is 3.5K miles). You can save money and get ample protection using dino motor oil with these short OCIs.

I run Mobil 1 for 10 K miles and then send a sample to the lab for testing. The result is always the same -- there is still ample protection in the used oil after 10K miles. But I don't want to change only the filter and not the oil, so I go to what I consider the filter limit of 10 K miles. I have to admit that many of those miles are on interstate highways. Although HI has interstates too, it is difficult there to drive 400 miles in a day, like I do driving to Chicago. But you should at least consider going to the Nissan higher OCI of 7 K miles.

The only way to determine what life remains in your old oil is to get a lab test. But running synthetic for only 3 K miles is definitely throwing away a resource that has substantial life still remaining. Get a lab test to confirm this point.

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Originally Posted by SilverMax_04
Why bother with synthetic motor oil if you change it frequently -- like every 3 K miles? (Nissan's shortert oil change interval is 3.5K miles). You can save money and get ample protection using dino motor oil with these short OCIs.

I run Mobil 1 for 10 K miles and then send a sample to the lab for testing. The result is always the same -- there is still ample protection in the used oil after 10K miles. But I don't want to change only the filter and not the oil, so I go to what I consider the filter limit of 10 K miles. I have to admit that many of those miles are on interstate highways. Although HI has interstates too, it is difficult there to drive 400 miles in a day, like I do driving to Chicago. But you should at least consider going to the Nissan higher OCI of 7 K miles.

The only way to determine what life remains in your old oil is to get a lab test. But running synthetic for only 3 K miles is definitely throwing away a resource that has substantial life still remaining. Get a lab test to confirm this point.
I used to go 7k w/ Mobil 1 when I had my max.
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like I had mentioned above the rings on this engine are sh*t and well mine are bad enough to burn through 1-1&1/2 quarts around my 3k mile range so might as well replace the oil and filter then. Also there is quite a bit of gas smell from the oil when I change it each time which is a good indication that it has to be changed out anyway. I know you are supposed to have a bit of gas smell but this is allmost like taking the pump nozzle and jamming it up your nostril. I don't even have a clue as to where I can take my oil to get analyzed here in Hawaii.
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You don't "take your oil anywhere." You mail it to the lab.

Go to their new web site:
http://www.blackstone-labs.com/

You will find all of the info you need there.

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Old Sep 3, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by nyc10034
So what do we think about this? http://www.microgreenfilter.com/
i dont buy it one bit i think if your gonna do that
your taking a huge risk and possibly damage your engine!
for good heres why? any oil will after oh 1200-1500
miles start to break-down when i say break-down i mean
the additive package in the oil begins burning off.
and secondly fuell contamination

that gets in the oil and if you dont believe me pull your dipstick
out after 1.500 miles and smell the oil on the end of that
dipstick. and thirdly is everyday stress example from
stopn go or high speed driving so when you factore in

all this that 2 micron filter will never compensate for that
anyday !!? i dont care how good it is you still need to
replenish your oil with new .
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Are fram filters still bad? I just recently bought the xtended guard, wondering if i should return.
Old Oct 19, 2009 | 07:26 AM
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you will be fine as long as you change your oil in the 3k mile recommended time frame for the filter.
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Wut does 5w/30 mean? wut does 5w stand for n wut does the 30 mean? I only ask because Im trying to understand y in this thread the use of 5w/30 is the best when in the manual it say 5w/20. Just for informational usage.
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Originally Posted by cmd26
Wut does 5w/30 mean? wut does 5w stand for n wut does the 30 mean? I only ask because Im trying to understand y in this thread the use of 5w/30 is the best when in the manual it say 5w/20. Just for informational usage.
and the manual says 5w30 for best all season protection.
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the manual says 5w30 or 10w30. and I am not going to explain what they mean again sorry. Google is your friend.
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I have a 98 with 100k miles and I'm gonna change the oil this weekend.
I went into kragen today and they gave me 10w-40.
and my engine leaks 5-10 drops everywhere I park. so is this the best oil for my engine?
Old Oct 31, 2009 | 04:31 PM
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in your warm climate 10w40 is fine i wouldent use any thicker
oil why not repaire the leak or find out where its leaking from?
Old Oct 31, 2009 | 11:02 PM
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well because it's gonna cost about $500 and there's no guarantee that it will be fixed.
you'll find a lot of maximas here with the same problem.
and i don't mind it anymore since the driveway is already messed up from the previous 96 maxima with the same problem.
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Using a 10w-40 versus a 10w-30 or 5w-30 will really not make much difference when it comes to your leak. Typical causes of leaks are 1) long-term neglect, 2) use of inexpensive oil that allowed the engine to run hot and damage/harden the seals, 3) use of inexpensive oil that is not formulated properly to allow the seals to swell and maintain their integrity.

Understand the cost to repair, but as jbrags offered, it would be nice to know where the leak is coming from so you determine the best course of action.



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