Fluids and Lubricants Motor oil, transmission oil, radiator fluid, power steering fluid, blinker fluid... wait, there is no blinker fluid. Technical discussion and analysis of the different lubricants we use in our cars.

Mobil 1 synthetic ATF

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 04:17 AM
  #1  
GreekMaxima's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,283
From: East Hartford, CT
Mobil 1 synthetic ATF

anybody use the mobil 1 synthetic ATF? any difference?
how many bottles you have to buy?
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 04:55 AM
  #2  
Qmax03
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
yea i used it i forgot how many bottles i bought the BEST way to do your tranny oil chage is DROP THE PAN ! your ganna see alot of metal deposit from your trany clean it off with brake cleaner , and use the mobil 1 atf youll feel the car shift smoother ! i loved it , i always use mobil 1 !
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 07:03 AM
  #3  
GreekMaxima's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,283
From: East Hartford, CT
Originally Posted by Qmax03
yea i used it i forgot how many bottles i bought the BEST way to do your tranny oil chage is DROP THE PAN ! your ganna see alot of metal deposit from your trany clean it off with brake cleaner , and use the mobil 1 atf youll feel the car shift smoother ! i loved it , i always use mobil 1 !
how many miles do you have on your max?
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 07:20 AM
  #4  
maximo-SE's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,734
im interested in find out how to do this ATF flush. Will stores like autozone take used ATF back? Is there a how to for this flush... and isnt ATF flushes done every 30000 miles?
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 07:35 AM
  #5  
GreekMaxima's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,283
From: East Hartford, CT
Originally Posted by maximo-SE
im interested in find out how to do this ATF flush. Will stores like autozone take used ATF back? Is there a how to for this flush... and isnt ATF flushes done every 30000 miles?
i dont know if its true but i hear that mobil 1 last longer.
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 07:59 AM
  #6  
2002 Maxima SE's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 2,064
From: Durham, NC
1) Drain pan then drop the pan and clean shavings off. Reattach pan.
2) Pan will hold around 4.5 qts. Buy 5 qts. Put in 4qts, run car around the block, check level while hot. Add if necessary.
3)I did mine at 25k then again at 30k. Will probably do this at 40k then 60k to keep it fresh...that may be overkill.
4)Yes, autozone will dispose of this in the same bin as the regular oil.
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 09:22 AM
  #7  
Kevon1's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 643
Originally Posted by 2002 Maxima SE
1) Drain pan then drop the pan and clean shavings off. Reattach pan.
2) Pan will hold around 4.5 qts. Buy 5 qts. Put in 4qts, run car around the block, check level while hot. Add if necessary.
3)I did mine at 25k then again at 30k. Will probably do this at 40k then 60k to keep it fresh...that may be overkill.
4)Yes, autozone will dispose of this in the same bin as the regular oil.
Ya everything he said. But with one exception. You need to buy like 11 or 12 quarts. And do a complete atf flush. It makes no sense to mix 5 quarts of brand new Mobil 1 ATF synthetic & mix it with 6 quarts of old non syn ATF. Check the stickies it is very easy to do . Especially if you have another person to help you turn the car off & on during the process.
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 09:30 AM
  #8  
Lontar1's Avatar
Puerto Rico-Maxima Lover
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 4,772
From: Florida
yeap it will take you like 1 hour to do the flush.... I haven't done mine yet but that's what people told me....... Question????? to all...... I know I need to buy a new gasket if I drop the pan... what about the screws....?????
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 09:33 AM
  #9  
GreekMaxima's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,283
From: East Hartford, CT
my dealer changed mt tranny fluid on 30k miles, i got 40k miles now and i want upgrade my fluid with synthetic for more performance, i ordered tranny cooler too so i wanna be all set, i plan to get a VB in the futere.

can i change my tranny fluid on 45k miles? around there, or is it better to wait until 60k miles?
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 10:48 AM
  #10  
2002 Maxima SE's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 2,064
From: Durham, NC
Originally Posted by Kevon1
Ya everything he said. But with one exception. You need to buy like 11 or 12 quarts. And do a complete atf flush. It makes no sense to mix 5 quarts of brand new Mobil 1 ATF synthetic & mix it with 6 quarts of old non syn ATF. Check the stickies it is very easy to do . Especially if you have another person to help you turn the car off & on during the process.
Depends on the age/mileage in the car. My fluid, at 20k, was relatively new so mixing in some synthetic here and 10k miles later keeps it fresh. If I do it every 20k by the time I hit 60k I should have roughly 80% to 90% synthetic.

For me, flushing the whole tranny at 20k didn't make much sense...but it is very easy to do by doing the FAQ. We flushed my wife's 93 Sable with this method (40k on a rebuilt tranny) and it went very smoothly.
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 12:06 PM
  #11  
kcowden's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 968
I would get a new gasket, you don't need new screws. Notice how easy the bolts come out of the pan and DON'T tighten them up to tight because the pan will leak if they are to tight. Why... if they are to tight they will bend the pan and cause it to leak.
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 12:48 PM
  #12  
schmatt's Avatar
Donating Maxima.org Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 226
The pan bolts probably should be replaced when dropping the pan. The factory service manual even says, "do not reuse pan bolts." This is because they have a sealant on them that ruined when the bolts are removed. I have heard of some people reusing them and not having any problem. But I'd rather be safe. I'm not going to risk killing my tranny because I'm too cheap to buy some new pan bolts. That's if you're like most people and don't check the fluid levels/condition on a regular basis.
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 10:34 PM
  #13  
GreekMaxima's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,283
From: East Hartford, CT
well, i asked my friend about synthetic tranny fluid and told me that its not worth to do it now cuz i already changed it, so its not gonna work. is it true?
Old Oct 7, 2004 | 12:32 AM
  #14  
GreekMaxima's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,283
From: East Hartford, CT
bump............................................
Old Oct 7, 2004 | 07:58 AM
  #15  
2002 Maxima SE's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 2,064
From: Durham, NC
Originally Posted by GreekMaxima
well, i asked my friend about synthetic tranny fluid and told me that its not worth to do it now cuz i already changed it, so its not gonna work. is it true?

Not gonna work? What does that mean?

It's a fluid. Replace it.
Old Oct 7, 2004 | 08:59 PM
  #16  
GimmeTorq's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 699
Originally Posted by kcowden
I would get a new gasket, you don't need new screws. Notice how easy the bolts come out of the pan and DON'T tighten them up to tight because the pan will leak if they are to tight. Why... if they are to tight they will bend the pan and cause it to leak.
61 to 78 in-lb are the torque specs for the pan bolts.
Old Oct 8, 2004 | 12:24 AM
  #17  
GreekMaxima's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,283
From: East Hartford, CT
Originally Posted by 2002 Maxima SE
Not gonna work? What does that mean?

It's a fluid. Replace it.
If you use synthetic tranny fluid, after using normal tranny fluid, it might crack the seals on the tranny and break them. Thats he told me, i dont know if its true though.............. ????
Old Oct 8, 2004 | 11:37 AM
  #18  
pruizgarcia's Avatar
Donating Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 588
I don't see how he can make a statement like that since all vehicles come out of the factory with normal ATF, then we change out to synthetic. I changed my out at 22k (current 41K) to Mobil1 ATF and have never been happier. If your tranny already has problems, then synthetic ATF will not do you any good until you fix the issues first.

Pedro
Old Oct 8, 2004 | 11:48 AM
  #19  
GreekMaxima's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,283
From: East Hartford, CT
Originally Posted by pruizgarcia
I don't see how he can make a statement like that since all vehicles come out of the factory with normal ATF, then we change out to synthetic. I changed my out at 22k (current 41K) to Mobil1 ATF and have never been happier. If your tranny already has problems, then synthetic ATF will not do you any good until you fix the issues first.

Pedro
I have no problem with my tranny at all.
I got 40k miles and already changed to normal ATF at the dealer but i want to change to synthetic, i dont know im confused guys......
Old Oct 8, 2004 | 12:20 PM
  #20  
Mizeree_X's Avatar
Getting back to his roots
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 3,549
Originally Posted by GreekMaxima
If you use synthetic tranny fluid, after using normal tranny fluid, it might crack the seals on the tranny and break them. Thats he told me, i dont know if its true though.............. ????
If you have a 2003, you shouldn't have to worry about cracked seals. If you have an 89 w/ 200,000 miles on the tranny, then maybe you should be concerned. I switched the tranny fluid in my old 92 at 106k and then again at 136k miles and it didn't break.
Old Oct 8, 2004 | 12:39 PM
  #21  
GreekMaxima's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,283
From: East Hartford, CT
Originally Posted by Mizeree_X
If you have a 2003, you shouldn't have to worry about cracked seals. If you have an 89 w/ 200,000 miles on the tranny, then maybe you should be concerned. I switched the tranny fluid in my old 92 at 106k and then again at 136k miles and it didn't break.
I have a 2k3 max, are you sure about that? cuz i want so bad to put synthetic but im afraid too after that i heard.
Old Oct 8, 2004 | 02:49 PM
  #22  
knapp9's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 206
GreekMaxima, I think you are worrying needlessly. I changed out the factory tranny fluid completley on an '01 Max at 44K with about 12 qt's of Pennzoil ATF using the directions in the sticky. At 60K I just drained and refilled the pan once w/@ 4 qt's of Penn again. At 75K I completely changed out the Pennzoil again but replaced it with Mobil 1 ATF. In each case the old fluid was darker than the new I added, but I honestly couldn't tell a bit of difference driving the car. If you like Mobil, go for it!
Old Oct 9, 2004 | 09:10 AM
  #23  
Mizeree_X's Avatar
Getting back to his roots
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 3,549
Originally Posted by GreekMaxima
I have a 2k3 max, are you sure about that? cuz i want so bad to put synthetic but im afraid too after that i heard.

You really think the seals in your tranny are already worn / cracked / damaged after only 2 years and 40,000 miles? I guess Nissan's build quality really has gone down the $hitter.
Old Oct 9, 2004 | 09:29 AM
  #24  
GreekMaxima's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,283
From: East Hartford, CT
Originally Posted by Mizeree_X
You really think the seals in your tranny are already worn / cracked / damaged after only 2 years and 40,000 miles?
i didnt say that.
Old Oct 9, 2004 | 06:04 PM
  #25  
Mizeree_X's Avatar
Getting back to his roots
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 3,549
Originally Posted by GreekMaxima
i didnt say that.
So then why the worry about switching to synthetic?
Old Oct 10, 2004 | 12:12 AM
  #26  
GreekMaxima's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,283
From: East Hartford, CT
Originally Posted by Mizeree_X
So then why the worry about switching to synthetic?
go look Thread #17
Old Oct 10, 2004 | 07:57 AM
  #27  
Mizeree_X's Avatar
Getting back to his roots
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 3,549
We are going in circles. Synthetic tranny fluid doesn't "crack" your tranny seals. Wear and tear cracks your tranny seals and SOMETIMES, if your tranny fluid hasn't been changed at a proper interval, then draining the old fluid and replacing it with new, synthetic fluid will cause a detergent effect where the dirt and sludge holding the cracked seals together is washed away, exposing the rips, which start to leak. So again, I ask you: do you really think that your tranny seals are damaged at 40,000 miles on a 2 year old car??
Old Oct 10, 2004 | 09:07 AM
  #28  
GreekMaxima's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,283
From: East Hartford, CT
Originally Posted by Mizeree_X
So again, I ask you: do you really think that your tranny seals are damaged at 40,000 miles on a 2 year old car??
i DID NOT said that i have damaged seals, im asking if they gonna crack when i changed it to synthetic.... IM ASKING
Old Oct 10, 2004 | 03:12 PM
  #29  
talkinghorse's Avatar
Maxima.org Sponsor and Donating Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (121)
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 2,325
From: San Antonio, TX
Originally Posted by GreekMaxima
i DID NOT said that i have damaged seals, im asking if they gonna crack when i changed it to synthetic.... IM ASKING

The short answer is NO...I can say with 100% certainty that mobil 1 or other popular synthetic ATFs (AMSOIL) will not damage your seals...in fact, they might preserve them (due to the premium additive packages and lower operating temperatures). I have used synthetic ATF since the mid 80's in a variety of applications and have never had a problem...some of these vehicles have 200K on the synthetic ATF and I have never encountered one leak, seep or transmission failure. With all due respect, your friend is misinformed and he is spreading false information...
Old Oct 10, 2004 | 03:46 PM
  #30  
GreekMaxima's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,283
From: East Hartford, CT
Originally Posted by talkinghorse
The short answer is NO...I can say with 100% certainty that mobil 1 or other popular synthetic ATFs (AMSOIL) will not damage your seals...in fact, they might preserve them (due to the premium additive packages and lower operating temperatures). I have used synthetic ATF since the mid 80's in a variety of applications and have never had a problem...some of these vehicles have 200K on the synthetic ATF and I have never encountered one leak, seep or transmission failure. With all due respect, your friend is misinformed and he is spreading false information...
he knows a lot of things for supras but i think he doesnt know anything for our cars.

thank you.!
Old Oct 17, 2004 | 05:23 PM
  #31  
Nomad's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 676
bought 12qts package @ Costco for 14 $ w/taxes to flush my power steering. lol I spent only one bottle
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
mclasser
5th Generation Maxima (2000-2003)
22
Nov 12, 2020 01:58 PM
Fbana41
Maximas for Sale / Wanted
3
Aug 29, 2016 12:18 PM
2kmaximel
5th Generation Classifieds (2000-2003)
2
Nov 29, 2015 01:51 AM
pjgreek
4th Generation Maxima (1995-1999)
12
Sep 9, 2015 09:30 PM
ag90fox
7th Generation Maxima (2009-2015)
6
Sep 9, 2015 12:22 PM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:00 AM.