View Poll Results: OIL?
MOBIL 1



155
61.02%
SYNTHETIC



58
22.83%
OTHER



41
16.14%
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Do you use Mobil 1?
I use Mobil 1 synthetic 5w30 on my car with purolator pureone filter i actualy started useing pureone filter soon to change my oil btw i have allready 2,500 miles when should i change my oil at 3,000 miles or more thanks.
Mike
Mike
Mobil 1 should be good for 10 K miles. I change at 7.5 K miles to preserve my 60 K mile power-train warranty from Nissan -- which allows in their owners manuals for that many miles between oil changes. I would only go that far if using synthetic motor oil.
zgrm100 i suggest switching to the mobil high mileage oil...it has additives in there that will seal any leaks that it sees (as long as their not too big)....if your already experiencing leaks use the high mileage oil 10w30 it's thicker, so its harder for it to escape your engine leaks...
I use Mobil 1 5W-30. Nothing else. Nobody touches my car but me, and I worked at a Toyota/Lexus dealer, They bought Mobil 1 in bulk barrels for the reasons stated above. The parts guy also told me they got the barrels cheaper than you could possibly imagine, and that the charge for the service was nearly 10x what it cost them.
Case and Point, CHANGE YOUR OWN FLUIDS.
Case and Point, CHANGE YOUR OWN FLUIDS.
i have mobile 1 and napa gold filter on my car now. Its been about 4200 miles so far, how many miles should i go before i change it(when i have to take the filter off ill change the oil too). I have royal purple and mobile 1 filter ready to go for next oil change. Yeah but id like to know how at how many miles i should change the filter and oil without losing good protection, thank you.
If your Max is still under Nissan's Powertrain Warranty, you should not go more than 7,500 miles before changing both. If you are past the mileage for this extended warranty, you can run the Mobil 1 to at least 10 K miles -- but you should change oil at least once a year (the time line limit).
There are some on this site that recommend, if you run the oil to 10 K miles or more, to change the filter (only) at 5 K miles or so -- at the half way point on the extended drain interval.
There are some on this site that recommend, if you run the oil to 10 K miles or more, to change the filter (only) at 5 K miles or so -- at the half way point on the extended drain interval.
The oil part of conventional motor oil (from crude oil) should not hurt you -- it is similar to mineral oil. It's the additives and the synthetic components that may cause your digestive track problems.
Will you die? - Not likely. Can it be bad your you? - Well, I would not do it.
Will you die? - Not likely. Can it be bad your you? - Well, I would not do it.
Originally Posted by matty
Synthetic tastes a bit different then Conventional Oil. Put a bit on your tounge, if its really salty, then you got ripped off 

-matt
Originally Posted by matty
I never wrote this !!!...I would never put oil in my dam* mouth. Someone wrote this in my name. I swear to God
-matt
-matt
I continue to read on here NOT to change to sythetic till 10,000 miles and the like. WHY.
Mobil 1 is factory fill for: Aston Martin
Bentley Amage and Bentley GT
Cadillac CTS, CTS-V, XLR, XLR-V, SRX and STS and STS-V
Chevrolet Corvette C6 and Z06
Chevrolet SSR
Chevrolet TrailBlazer SS
Chrysler 300C SRT-8 and Crossfire SRT-6
Cobalt SS
Dodge Ram SRT-10
Dodge Charger SRT-8, Magnum, and Viper
Jeep Cherokee SRT-8
Mercedes-Benz AMG vehicles
Mercedes SLR
Mitsubishi EVO III
Pontiac GTO
All Porsche vehicles
Saturn Red Line
Viper SRT-10
Can someone explain with facts possibly?? thanks!
Mobil 1 is factory fill for: Aston Martin
Bentley Amage and Bentley GT
Cadillac CTS, CTS-V, XLR, XLR-V, SRX and STS and STS-V
Chevrolet Corvette C6 and Z06
Chevrolet SSR
Chevrolet TrailBlazer SS
Chrysler 300C SRT-8 and Crossfire SRT-6
Cobalt SS
Dodge Ram SRT-10
Dodge Charger SRT-8, Magnum, and Viper
Jeep Cherokee SRT-8
Mercedes-Benz AMG vehicles
Mercedes SLR
Mitsubishi EVO III
Pontiac GTO
All Porsche vehicles
Saturn Red Line
Viper SRT-10
Can someone explain with facts possibly?? thanks!
1) Because Nissan recommends waiting until about 22 K miles (a bit long IMO).
2) Because engines break-in faster with motor oil that is not so slippery.
The other manufacturers obviously feel that their engines don't need that break-in advantage from using dino oil for full break-in.
You certainly will not hurt your engine by switching earlier. It's your call. Some people also don't follow Nissan's recommendations about not over-reving the VQ for the first few thousand miles. That's their call.
I switched to Mobil 1 at 7,500 miles and could I do it again, would now have waited until 15 K miles to switch.
2) Because engines break-in faster with motor oil that is not so slippery.
The other manufacturers obviously feel that their engines don't need that break-in advantage from using dino oil for full break-in.
You certainly will not hurt your engine by switching earlier. It's your call. Some people also don't follow Nissan's recommendations about not over-reving the VQ for the first few thousand miles. That's their call.
I switched to Mobil 1 at 7,500 miles and could I do it again, would now have waited until 15 K miles to switch.
Mobil Clean 5000 has some synthetic in it. Almost all the newer SM oils have some syn added. I run Valvoline Maxlife syn 5w30 and more recently Synergyn 5w30. You can get maxlife free after rebate. It seems to be a good oil with lots of moly. It meets ACEA A3, VW, BMW and MB specs.
Mobil 1 syn.
5w30 if engine under 50-75k miles with average wear.
10w30 or 10w40 if beyond 50-75k miles with average wear and temps above 0 degreees Fahrenheit.
15w50 or 20 w50 if very hot temps and or above average wear.
It's well made syn and it is sold in a lot of places. My opinion is that dino/standard oil causes problems from sludge build up and inferior conditioning and lubrication, over time, even if you change it frequently.
5w30 if engine under 50-75k miles with average wear.
10w30 or 10w40 if beyond 50-75k miles with average wear and temps above 0 degreees Fahrenheit.
15w50 or 20 w50 if very hot temps and or above average wear.
It's well made syn and it is sold in a lot of places. My opinion is that dino/standard oil causes problems from sludge build up and inferior conditioning and lubrication, over time, even if you change it frequently.
TempMax:
In Europe Nissan recommends 10W30 for the VQ engine. They go with the lighter 5W30 in North America because of the push for improved gasoline mileage in the US. IMHO the mileage improvement from 5W30 is negligable and the increased protection from 10W30 is worth losing whatever it may be -- if you can even measure it.
I do run 5W30 in the winter only because I bought some Mobil 1 at that weight before I found out about Europe. The rest of the year I use 10W30.
I would stay away from the 15W and 20W weights. They are mainly for diesel trucks and race cars and are too heavy for the jewel that is our VQ.
In Europe Nissan recommends 10W30 for the VQ engine. They go with the lighter 5W30 in North America because of the push for improved gasoline mileage in the US. IMHO the mileage improvement from 5W30 is negligable and the increased protection from 10W30 is worth losing whatever it may be -- if you can even measure it.
I do run 5W30 in the winter only because I bought some Mobil 1 at that weight before I found out about Europe. The rest of the year I use 10W30.
I would stay away from the 15W and 20W weights. They are mainly for diesel trucks and race cars and are too heavy for the jewel that is our VQ.
It's just a friendly barb aimed at SilverMax_04 who prefers running 85 octane at altitude in his 2004 Maxima and has posted a number of times about his "experiments" with higher octane gas on his cross-country junkets.
Originally Posted by d00df00d
Your point being...?
Originally Posted by d00df00d
My owner's manual says 20w-50 is "acceptable" in warm/hot climates...
Bobo points out that I burn 85 octane gasoline in my Max here in Colorado. But at 6 K feet elevation (the city, my home is higher) that octane performs like 91 octane at sea level. (General rule is that for every 1 K feet increase in elevation, octane requirements for non-turbo engines decline about one octane number.)
Now Bobo has admitted burning 90 octane gasoline where he lives. I suspect that his 90 octane does not perform any better at sea level where he lives than my 85 octane here at elevation, and possibly worse.
It helps to know the physics around what is being discussed.
Been using Penzoil 5W-30 & WIX filter in my 01 I30 and so far been happy. However, I just changed my oil last weekend and switched to a M1 filter. Probably won't notice any difference, but thats all AZ had at the time.
I'd really like to know why everyone uses the M1? Is it because of the longer oil change intervals, better performance, or just cause its popular and everybody says its great?
I'd really like to know why everyone uses the M1? Is it because of the longer oil change intervals, better performance, or just cause its popular and everybody says its great?
Originally Posted by clayman88
I'd really like to know why everyone uses the M1? Is it because of the longer oil change intervals, better performance, or just cause its popular and everybody says its great?
As a NOOB, I don't have posting priveleges yet, so can someone post this as a new post? It's more an FYI posting, though, so I am unclear of the best spot to post it...Thanks.
Toyota Agrees to Sludge Settlement for Consumers
Class Action Suit Brings Relief to 3.5 Million Toyota, Lexus Owners
By Joe Benton
ConsumerAffairs.Com
January 8, 2007
Consumers saddled with sludge-clogged Toyota engines may soon get some help from the Japanese auto giant under the terms of a class-action lawsuit settlement that covers roughly 3.5 million Toyota and Lexus vehicles damaged by engine oil sludge.
An engine gummed up with oil sludge can cost thousands of dollars to repair and in many cases must be replaced. The class action settlement could potentially cost the automaker hundreds of millions of dollars.
The agreement will allow consumers whose claims have been denied by Toyota to submit those claims to a third-party mediator at no cost for binding arbitration.
The lawsuit, filed in a Louisiana district court, could receive final approval by the middle of February. Details of the settlement are being mailed to 7.5 million current and previous Toyota and Lexus owners.
The agreement provides owners of sludge-damaged Toyotas eight years plus 120 days from the original purchase date to file a complaint.
Toyota consumers who have repaired their sludge-damaged engines may be able to recover their costs. The car only needs to show evidence of oil sludge damage.
The terms of the settlement are transferable to future vehicle owners.
Toyota owners have repeatedly written ConsumerAffairs.Com detailing Toyota's attempts to blame sludge problems on inadequate vehicle maintenance by the owner.
Charles in Arkansas said: "At 36,000 miles the engine gummed up and quit running. My wife had the oil changed at Wal-Mart and did not keep receipts for the oil changes. The North Little Rock dealer and the Toyota representative told us such problems were rare and that we had caused the problem but for $2,500 they could fix it. They inferred that my wife was a liar," he wrote.
With the new agreement, consumers need only show reasonable maintenance in terms of oil changes.
Toyotas covered by the Louisiana settlement include the:
• Camry 4 cylinder from 1997-2001,
• Camry 6 cylinder from 1997-2002,
• Camry Solara 4 cylinder from 1999-2001,
• Camry Solara 6 cylinder 1999-2002,
• Sienna 6 cylinder from 1998-2002,
• Avalon 6 cylinder from 1997-2002,
• Celica 4 cylinder from 1997-1999,
• Highlander 6 cylinder from 2001-2002,
• Lexus ES 300 from 1997-2002 and
• Lexus RX 300 from 1999-2002.
In 2002 Toyota admitted receiving 3,400 complaints about sludged engines and the automaker extended its vehicle warranty to eight years along with unlimited mileage to owners of 1997-2002 Toyota and Lexus vehicles equipped with 3.0-liter V-6 or 2.2-liter four-cylinder engines.
At Toyota dealerships, however, consumers have encountered repeated denials from service managers insisting that sludging occurs primarily when owners fail to change their oil frequently enough.
Lauren wrote ConsumerAffairs.Com from Tampa, Florida that, "My check engine light came on once again so I immediately returned to Stadium Toyota. The next day, I received a call from Stadium Toyota telling me that my engine is damaged due to engine sludge and it will cost me $4,500 to fix it."
In Lawrenceville, Georgia Valerie ran into a hostile dealer despite Toyota confirming her vehicle was "part of their oil gelling/sludge program. The service dept at the dealership says that I'm not entitled to anything," she wrote.
In Apex, North Carolina Jan heard the bad news from her Toyota dealer.
"They checked it over, then called and said that the engine had sludge in it and it needed a $7,000 to $8,000 repair," she wrote.
"They also said it was my fault, because the oil had obviously not been changed properly. When I purchased the car, the Toyota dealer talked me into a $999 extended warranty plan, which he assured me would cover any major issues that might come up with a car. It is called their Tender Loving Care package."
Edward from Parma, Ohio received the Toyota brush-off despite promises of an extended warranty.
"I called the dealer and was basically told by their customer service manager that they refused to do anything and did not care if I chose to file a lawsuit or anything else, Edward told ConsumerAffairs.Com.
Lois from Cedar Rapids is still steaming over her treatment despite promises of an extended warranty.
"We received a letter from Toyota that indicated the engine was covered for a period of 8 years for engine sludge. In February of 2006, at 144,000 miles, the engine started making a loud noise. We were told that our car had 'blown a rod' and needed a new engine. We asked about the previous problem but were told that this was not related to the sludge problem and the car was not covered by Toyota."
The Toyota agreement the court is examining contains no finding of fault by Toyota or its dealers and does not prove Toyota or Lexus vehicles are predisposed to develop oil gel.
Toyota Agrees to Sludge Settlement for Consumers
Class Action Suit Brings Relief to 3.5 Million Toyota, Lexus Owners
By Joe Benton
ConsumerAffairs.Com
January 8, 2007
Consumers saddled with sludge-clogged Toyota engines may soon get some help from the Japanese auto giant under the terms of a class-action lawsuit settlement that covers roughly 3.5 million Toyota and Lexus vehicles damaged by engine oil sludge.
An engine gummed up with oil sludge can cost thousands of dollars to repair and in many cases must be replaced. The class action settlement could potentially cost the automaker hundreds of millions of dollars.
The agreement will allow consumers whose claims have been denied by Toyota to submit those claims to a third-party mediator at no cost for binding arbitration.
The lawsuit, filed in a Louisiana district court, could receive final approval by the middle of February. Details of the settlement are being mailed to 7.5 million current and previous Toyota and Lexus owners.
The agreement provides owners of sludge-damaged Toyotas eight years plus 120 days from the original purchase date to file a complaint.
Toyota consumers who have repaired their sludge-damaged engines may be able to recover their costs. The car only needs to show evidence of oil sludge damage.
The terms of the settlement are transferable to future vehicle owners.
Toyota owners have repeatedly written ConsumerAffairs.Com detailing Toyota's attempts to blame sludge problems on inadequate vehicle maintenance by the owner.
Charles in Arkansas said: "At 36,000 miles the engine gummed up and quit running. My wife had the oil changed at Wal-Mart and did not keep receipts for the oil changes. The North Little Rock dealer and the Toyota representative told us such problems were rare and that we had caused the problem but for $2,500 they could fix it. They inferred that my wife was a liar," he wrote.
With the new agreement, consumers need only show reasonable maintenance in terms of oil changes.
Toyotas covered by the Louisiana settlement include the:
• Camry 4 cylinder from 1997-2001,
• Camry 6 cylinder from 1997-2002,
• Camry Solara 4 cylinder from 1999-2001,
• Camry Solara 6 cylinder 1999-2002,
• Sienna 6 cylinder from 1998-2002,
• Avalon 6 cylinder from 1997-2002,
• Celica 4 cylinder from 1997-1999,
• Highlander 6 cylinder from 2001-2002,
• Lexus ES 300 from 1997-2002 and
• Lexus RX 300 from 1999-2002.
In 2002 Toyota admitted receiving 3,400 complaints about sludged engines and the automaker extended its vehicle warranty to eight years along with unlimited mileage to owners of 1997-2002 Toyota and Lexus vehicles equipped with 3.0-liter V-6 or 2.2-liter four-cylinder engines.
At Toyota dealerships, however, consumers have encountered repeated denials from service managers insisting that sludging occurs primarily when owners fail to change their oil frequently enough.
Lauren wrote ConsumerAffairs.Com from Tampa, Florida that, "My check engine light came on once again so I immediately returned to Stadium Toyota. The next day, I received a call from Stadium Toyota telling me that my engine is damaged due to engine sludge and it will cost me $4,500 to fix it."
In Lawrenceville, Georgia Valerie ran into a hostile dealer despite Toyota confirming her vehicle was "part of their oil gelling/sludge program. The service dept at the dealership says that I'm not entitled to anything," she wrote.
In Apex, North Carolina Jan heard the bad news from her Toyota dealer.
"They checked it over, then called and said that the engine had sludge in it and it needed a $7,000 to $8,000 repair," she wrote.
"They also said it was my fault, because the oil had obviously not been changed properly. When I purchased the car, the Toyota dealer talked me into a $999 extended warranty plan, which he assured me would cover any major issues that might come up with a car. It is called their Tender Loving Care package."
Edward from Parma, Ohio received the Toyota brush-off despite promises of an extended warranty.
"I called the dealer and was basically told by their customer service manager that they refused to do anything and did not care if I chose to file a lawsuit or anything else, Edward told ConsumerAffairs.Com.
Lois from Cedar Rapids is still steaming over her treatment despite promises of an extended warranty.
"We received a letter from Toyota that indicated the engine was covered for a period of 8 years for engine sludge. In February of 2006, at 144,000 miles, the engine started making a loud noise. We were told that our car had 'blown a rod' and needed a new engine. We asked about the previous problem but were told that this was not related to the sludge problem and the car was not covered by Toyota."
The Toyota agreement the court is examining contains no finding of fault by Toyota or its dealers and does not prove Toyota or Lexus vehicles are predisposed to develop oil gel.
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