Fluids and Lubricants Motor oil, transmission oil, radiator fluid, power steering fluid, blinker fluid... wait, there is no blinker fluid. Technical discussion and analysis of the different lubricants we use in our cars.

oil analysis for Nissan Ester Oil

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 5, 2010 | 04:07 PM
  #1  
MaxLoverAz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 1,450
From: Phoenix, AZ
oil analysis for Nissan Ester Oil

All,

Here is my blackstone labs oil report for my 09 Max running ester oil, I haven't had a chance to really analyze the results yet nor compare to other reports but here you go.

Old Feb 5, 2010 | 04:21 PM
  #2  
2slow's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 575
From: Chicagoland
Will you continue to use this oil? Will you get a UOA for the next change? And, what does Nissan charge for this magic elixir?

Viscosity seems a bit low. Fuel dilution is non-existent.

Judging from you signature/stable, you must love the current VQ engines.
Old Feb 5, 2010 | 05:26 PM
  #3  
MaxLoverAz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 1,450
From: Phoenix, AZ
Originally Posted by 2slow
Will you continue to use this oil? Will you get a UOA for the next change? And, what does Nissan charge for this magic elixir?

Viscosity seems a bit low. Fuel dilution is non-existent.

Judging from you signature/stable, you must love the current VQ engines.
Yes see no reason to stop using it, hell look at that TBN number. Yes I get UOA on every change, still running this oil however I just took out an sample plan to run it at least 7500 maybe 10000 just being extra cautious. Viscosity is on the money for 5w30.
Old Feb 6, 2010 | 12:51 AM
  #4  
Michael76's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 81
Originally Posted by MaxLoverAz
Yes see no reason to stop using it, hell look at that TBN number. Yes I get UOA on every change, still running this oil however I just took out an sample plan to run it at least 7500 maybe 10000 just being extra cautious. Viscosity is on the money for 5w30.
Looks good! I am extra curious to see the TBN at 7,500 miles. Wondering how the additives will hold up over the next 2,500+ miles!!!

Where do you pick up your Ester? Do you get it from your local dealer or have you been able to find it somewhere online cheaper? Thanks!
Old Feb 23, 2010 | 10:24 AM
  #5  
Michael76's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 81
Originally Posted by MaxLoverAz
Yes see no reason to stop using it, hell look at that TBN number. Yes I get UOA on every change, still running this oil however I just took out an sample plan to run it at least 7500 maybe 10000 just being extra cautious. Viscosity is on the money for 5w30.
What is the status of the UOA at 7,500? Was it submitted to the lab yet? Thanks!
Old Feb 23, 2010 | 09:12 PM
  #6  
MaxLoverAz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 1,450
From: Phoenix, AZ
Originally Posted by Michael76
What is the status of the UOA at 7,500? Was it submitted to the lab yet? Thanks!
I have I think about 1200 more miles to go....
Old Feb 24, 2010 | 08:01 AM
  #7  
Mreim769's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 910
From: Alberta, Canada
I am suprisingly impressed with these numbers. Thanks for posting this buddy!
Old Feb 25, 2010 | 07:03 AM
  #8  
Michael76's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 81
Originally Posted by Mreim769
I am suprisingly impressed with these numbers. Thanks for posting this buddy!
+1
Old Mar 15, 2010 | 03:03 PM
  #9  
chsherbie's Avatar
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 22
From: MA
cool
Old Apr 7, 2010 | 12:25 AM
  #10  
MaxLoverAz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 1,450
From: Phoenix, AZ
Here is the latest UOA on my Nissan Ester Oil (2nd UOA) TBN is now a 3.0.

Old Apr 11, 2010 | 09:46 PM
  #11  
Michael76's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 81
Interesting that the TBN is still decent. Wear is higher than one would expect though! What are you intentions? Do you plan on sticking w/ OCI of about 5,000? Thanks for the info!!
Old Apr 11, 2010 | 10:23 PM
  #12  
MaxLoverAz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 1,450
From: Phoenix, AZ
Originally Posted by Michael76
Interesting that the TBN is still decent. Wear is higher than one would expect though! What are you intentions? Do you plan on sticking w/ OCI of about 5,000? Thanks for the info!!
No I dumped it the wear doesn't make me too happy, I did an OCI with Pennzoil Ultra 10W-30 after this UOA. It sheared down to a 20wt oil very quickly and the TBN dropped like a rock not impressed at all.

It seems this ester oil is just a conventional oil with a healthy dose of moly and some kind of ester additive.

We shall see how the Ultra does on my first UOA.
Old Apr 12, 2010 | 09:10 AM
  #13  
Michael76's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 81
Yeah, keep us updated! That stuff is brand new, isn't it? I would be curious to see a UOA of it.
Old Apr 12, 2010 | 06:24 PM
  #14  
talkinghorse's Avatar
Maxima.org Sponsor and Donating Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (121)
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 2,325
From: San Antonio, TX
Copper wear on your engine is definitely high, but that could be because the engine is relatively new. I had the same type issue on a new Honda (3.5L) we had and it eventually settled down. I'm not real impressed with the fact that the oil was essentially out of viscosity range at 4600 miles...that's pretty ridiculous knowing that one can not trust Nissan's premium oil to maintain its viscosity for the full length of Nissan's recommended OCI.

Here's a couple reports from two of my vehicles using AMSOIL Signature Series 0w-30....a '00 I-30 and an '06 Frontier with the 4.0.

This particular sample/report below, on the I-30 was taken two years ago with 7500 miles on the oil... Wear metals compared favorably to universal averages even though my sample ran for 41% longer than the averages against which it was compared. Viscosity was also very good...pretty much in the mid-range for a 30-weight oil.





This is a current analysis taken last week from my Frontier with just over 10,000 miles on the oil (43K on the engine). Again, wear metals lower than or comparable to Universal Averages, even though my mileage exceeded those averages by over 75%. Even with >10K on the oil, viscosity was well within range. Silicone is reported as being elevated, but my value of 29 is actually lower than the Universal Average when you extrapolate the U/A values over my extended drain.



My other Nissan, a 4th gen ('98) Maxima now has 150K...just changed the oil on it this weekend after a 6-month, 12,000 mile run on AMSOIL Signature Series...absolutely zero oil consumption on this 12 year old engine with this mileage on the oil. My kid is driving the stuffins out of this car, but its holding up well.

Let me know if anyone has questions/needs assistance with AMSOIL.
http://forums.maxima.org/group-deals...ubricants.html

Last edited by talkinghorse; Apr 12, 2010 at 07:33 PM.
Old Apr 12, 2010 | 06:45 PM
  #15  
talkinghorse's Avatar
Maxima.org Sponsor and Donating Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (121)
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 2,325
From: San Antonio, TX
Sorry, Can't get the images to post for some reason...will figure it out and revise.

Figured it out... :-)

Last edited by talkinghorse; Apr 12, 2010 at 07:01 PM.
Old May 27, 2010 | 12:08 PM
  #16  
gizzsdad's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 836
From: Central Iowa
There really seems to be little reason to use this oil:


http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...gonew=1#UNREAD
Old Jun 12, 2010 | 11:18 PM
  #17  
Rods03Max619's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 8,946
From: Diego,California
Sic I think!!
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
kjlouis
4th Generation Maxima (1995-1999)
12
Oct 3, 2015 05:29 AM
sdotcarter
6th Generation Maxima (2004-2008)
2
Sep 2, 2015 09:53 PM
Justin Kroll
5th Generation Maxima (2000-2003)
7
Sep 2, 2015 11:06 AM
coasterswim
8th Generation Maxima (2016-)
0
Sep 2, 2015 07:43 AM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:08 PM.