Look at that case in South Jersey--this dude was caught DWI. He calls his buddy to pick him up from the station. His friend drives him back to his vehicle, the drunk guy gets in and crashes, killing himself and some victims. Now the jury is deliberating but the friend is going to prison if convicted. I can't understand in NJ why the vehcicle is left at the scene and not immediately impounded like it is in NY. I think that other post sums it up--kids don't want to pay $40. KIDS. Probably the apple doesn't fall from the cart, their parents probably aren't Rhodes scholars.

 

Well, we don't see this one the same way. That's okay, we can agree to disagree. A track will not prevent a fatal accident from occuring on a city street any more than a ***** house nearby will prevent a rape. The solution to the problem is individuals growing up and taking responsibility for their lives and the lives of those around them and not to have the government intervine and build more local tracks.

 

I don't think we're talking about "kids" at all here. I mean, I refer to some of these folks as kids, but these drivers I read about in these news stories are 20-somethings mostly. I may call them stupid kids and they may have kid-sized brains, but they are adults who need to grow the hell up...and in the meantime, take the bus to work.

 

My buddy had that club name long before the ps2 video game. I don't indulge in street racing because I do not have the money or the will to participate. What everyone said in response to my comment on "safe organized street racing" is completely correct. I do not believe it is safe at any cost but if one had to choose between two bad things, organized racing would be the way to go. Usually the races and gatherings only last 15 minutes because we are from New York City and you can't really be too long in one spot. Anyway, I have no idea what I was going to say and I hope everyone uses their common sense when it comes to racing. I came very close to death or at least serious injury not too long ago when my car almost went off a huge cliff when I was visiting my buddy and decided to do something stupid (DAMN PA!). Luckily everything is alright a huge rock stopped it from falling with me in it. One should look at the pictures posted previously and make the right choices. I do not support this tactic of causing people to refrain from a certain activity by scarring them with tragedies of possible and real consequences. People die everyday while it may be street racing of taking a walk to the grocery store (Girl I knew got killed because some moron on a Porsche lost control when she was taking a walk to the grocery store and ran over her R.I.P. 2001). I say do what you feel is best but never race if you have friends in your car and never put anyone else's life at risk other then your own. Later.

 

More kids hanging out at the track= more kids off the streets= fewer chances of accidents during the time they are at the track- which is generally Friday and Saturday nights........when most kids are street racing.

They will still race on the streets. But instead of spending Friday night racing from Dairy Queen to Arbys, they will spend it becoming educated about the proper form of racing.

I agree 100% with your whorehouse analogy..... I'm just saying it will give the people with the racing mindset something to do.....

 

Beautiful theory, really it is. More tracks is okay by me. I just don't think they have anything to do with solving the problem of moronic people who crash their cars into minivans full of kids, nor do I believe a new track will reduce accidents like that in any way, shape, or form.

The is a pretty healthy discussion...other than a few crack comments, we've kept it pretty civil for Maxima.org.

 

I agree. I was waiting for the pro drag race contingent to come aboard with the list of
justifications for street racing. I’ve heard them all:

I only race late at night.
I always look around to make sure the street is deserted.
You can’t stop it, so why not join in?
What’s the point of modding my car if I can’t race it?
Street racing can be safe if done right.
I have such superb driving skills that I can do it safely.
I don’t do it that often.
I’m obligated as a good Maxima.org member to show others what a Maxima can do.
If someone revs their engine at me I can’t be a chicken can I?
I would only kill myself, so it’s none of your business.
I can’t help myself.

 

The more I think about it, the tracks don't have to be government subsidised. We just need more of them. There is one track in Phoenix and it is in BFE.

If there were three or four tracks and they were cool- like with amateur bands playing, and other attractions- it could be more of a hangout.

I guess the basis for my theory is the "Farewell Fiesta" high school graduation party. It is an all night party put on by my old high school on graduation night with no alcohol. There are games and prizes, etc, etc.

80% of the graduating seniors go to it instead of going out and drinking all night. It was put in place about 10 years ago after a drunk high schooler drove through a brick wall the night she graduated. From my knowledge, no one has been involved in a single accident from that school on graduation night since then.

Long story short- If they're already at the track on Friday night, they can't be out running into minivans at the same time.

And by the way, if you think I am pro street racer, you are wrong. I like to take a Honda off the line every now and again, but you won't see me doing 90 mph on a city street.....well, maybe a highway, but not a surface street. That's just nuts.

 

Street racing is bad, blowing a honda off the line to the speed limit is OK

 

man this show on MTV is so staged its ridiculous....the "Faces of Death" type of shows don't work anymore good try MTV. tommorow they are gonna do "true life" mini documentary on street racing...isn't that gonna just oppose all they tried to protray tonight

 

 

Not trying to PW here but a government subsidy is paid for by the
tax payers. Personally I want my tax money going towards other more
pressing issues. So here's the abbreviated street-racing-fine table:

1)Street Racing & nobody injured = lose your license and 10% of all
earnings for 2 years. That 10% goes to a general fund for street
racing education, track building, more po-po on the road - whatever.

2)Street Racing & injured somebody else = Pay for their injuries,
watch your car get crushed at the wrecking yard, 4 years in prison
(adult population regardless of driver age), 15% of your income
taken for general fund or victim for 4 years after release.

3)Street Racing & maim somebody else = you watch your car get crushed
at the wrecking yard and then see #4 but you get to use a seatbelt
for all tests above 30mph.

4)Street Racing & killed somebody = crash test dummy for one of the
car manufacturers (no 5mph bumper tests or seat belts allowed)

 

Perhaps "one of the most credible in the country" was a bit over the top. But just because most of their news is about pop culture, doesn't mean that they aren't credible.