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Old Aug 8, 2002 | 04:03 PM
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Found Overheating Cause

My fan is definately broken. The A/C fan works fine, but I can't even turn the driver side fan, actually the fan part is off the rotory part. At any rate, I need to get this replaced. How difficult of a job is a radiator fan replacement?
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Re: Found Overheating Cause

Originally posted by BrianV
My fan is definately broken. The A/C fan works fine, but I can't even turn the driver side fan, actually the fan part is off the rotory part. At any rate, I need to get this replaced. How difficult of a job is a radiator fan replacement?
[A bit off topic]

You know how you were complaining that no one answered your question specifically on how the fan(s) operated?


Time for criticism:

Search results for "radiator fan" in 4th gen forum only:

http://forums.maxima.org/search.php?...der=descending

Eric L. answered your question at the end of your other overheating thread here in this thread within the search results above:

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=68329

I discovered this in 2-1/2 minutes.


Bad Brian. Bad, bad Brian.


My suggestion for the install: search a bit or buy a Haynes manual, then teach the rest of us if your research comes up with nothing.
Old Aug 8, 2002 | 04:12 PM
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Ok Bill, the reason for this post was to stop the lengthly post on the other thread and to let everyone know the conclusion rather then search 3 pages deep. I often use the search function but this is in addition to another post. Also, had I not posted here not all people would have found the resolution. Thus, they would have perhaps thought that S/C maxima's can't handle long idle times. This post has more value then you think.

This board is so freaking political I remember back in the day when it was acutally a worthwhile board. I mean you give me crap about posting a somewhat useful topic, but no crap was given to Sprintmax who posted something like 5 times in my thread all of which weren't even related to my freaking thread.

I mean geezus you need to get a freaking life!!!
Old Aug 8, 2002 | 04:15 PM
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Re: Found Overheating Cause

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My fan is definately broken. The A/C fan works fine, but I can't even turn the driver side fan, actually the fan part is off the rotory part. At any rate, I need to get this replaced. How difficult of a job is a radiator fan replacement?

Removing the fan assembly is very, very easy. You literally unscrew two screws (one on each side of the radiator) and un-snap three (or maybe four, I don't remember exactly) electrical connectors and you can pull out the entire fan assembly from the top. HOWEVER, you may need to remove the SC pipe, and possibly the battery and battery tray to allow enough room wiggle it and pull it out.
Old Aug 8, 2002 | 04:16 PM
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Removing the fan assembly is very, very easy. You literally unscrew two screwws (one on each side of the radiator) and un-snap three (or maybe, four I don remember exactly) electrical connectors and you can pull out the entire fan assembly from the top. HOWEVER, you may need to remove the SC pipe to allow enough room to pull it out.
I will definately have to remove the S/C pipe, I was already under the assumption that was a must (no biggy really). Thanks for the reply. I know everyone in the other post was recommending OEM fans, but then other people were recommending aftermakret (more effective fans), what's the consenus?
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Originally posted by BrianV
Ok Bill, the reason for this post was to stop the lengthly post on the other thread and to let everyone know the conclusion rather then search 3 pages deep. I often use the search function but this is in addition to another post. Also, had I not posted here not all people would have found the resolution. Thus, they would have perhaps thought that S/C maxima's can't handle long idle times. This post has more value then you think.


I didn't say it won't/can't have value, I was just pointing out that after a day on a post, you would have taken the effort to search. I did and it took 2-1/2 minutes. I can't imagine it taking any longer for yourself, one of our better members.

This board is so freaking political I remember back in the day when it was acutally a worthwhile board. I mean you give me crap about posting a somewhat useful topic, but no crap was given to Sprintmax who posted something like 5 times in my thread all of which weren't even related to my freaking thread.

I mean geezus you need to get a freaking life!!!
A) You're taking this WAY too personally.
B) I expect you to make an effort to find answers to such questions first, and let us know what you come up with.
C) Politics doesn't have jack to do with it.
D) Every member is treated differently. Find me a SprintMax post where he asks a question that could easily be found using search and you may have a point.
E) Me having/needing/getting a life has nothing to do with your seeminng unwillingness to find out your problem. One of the first things I would have done was turn the fans to make sure they actually work freely. Then I would have searched for posts on the radiator fan to find out their operation.


Calm down, man. I was just disappointed you didn't do a little more pondering on this or searching.
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Old Aug 8, 2002 | 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by bill99gxe


I didn't say it won't/can't have value, I was just pointing out that after a day on a post, you would have taken the effort to search. I did and it took 2-1/2 minutes. I can't imagine it taking any longer for yourself, one of our better members.



A) You're taking this WAY too personally.
B) I expect you to make an effort to find answers to such questions first, and let us know what you come up with.
C) Politics doesn't have jack to do with it.
D) Every member is treated differently. Find me a SprintMax post where he asks a question that could easily be found using search and you may have a point.
E) Me having/needing/getting a life has nothing to do with your seeminng unwillingness to find out your problem. One of the first things I would have done was turn the fans to make sure they actually work freely. Then I would have searched for posts on the radiator fan to find out their operation.


Calm down, man. I was just disappointed you didn't do a little more pondering on this or searching. [/B]
I'm disappointed you said this:

D) Every member is treated differently. Find me a SprintMax post where he asks a question that could easily be found using search and you may have a point.

What in the world does this have to do with the topic at hand?

When Sprintmax signed up he agreed to:

"post material or make statements that do not generally pertain to the designated forum topic; " (as copied from user agreement). No where in this agreement does it say I cannot post things that have possible been posted before.

Finally, this post has nothing to do with the original thread, but SprintMax is a highly touted member so from now on I'll just do what he does and everyone will leave me alone.
Old Aug 8, 2002 | 04:31 PM
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Also, what the hell kind of system is a system where everyone is treated differently? Then you better re-write the damn aggreement saying "Some people are exempt and can do whatever they want because that's how they are, and other people get barked at and banned for no apparent reason"

Let's see, Sprintmax posts garbage, Russ posts a defense in an environment of attackers and he gets banned for an extended period of time. Yeah, this server belongs in a country where you can pay $20 to a police officer and get out of murder.
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I am very impressed that you kept all your user agreements handy. I need to go look through them. I am with you buddy. Maybe there is a conspiracy going on here, maybe bill, sprint, etc...paid to have there powers!
Old Aug 8, 2002 | 04:33 PM
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Shouldn't you be moderating your own 3-gen forum? hehe

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I am very impressed that you kept all your user agreements handy. I need to go look through them. I am with you buddy.
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There is nothing there for me to moderate. Post something! I need to start paying people to post.
Old Aug 8, 2002 | 04:51 PM
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Check it. You missed alot! Some got deleted already.

Originally posted by dmontzmax
There is nothing there for me to moderate. Post something! I need to start paying people to post.
Old Aug 8, 2002 | 04:51 PM
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Old Aug 8, 2002 | 04:54 PM
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Yeah here comes the lock. Bill might have been harsh but he DID come up with some good info. Take personal issue to pm/feedback or email.

Danka! The lock master has spoken.
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Jeff your check is in the mail, thank you for posting something. I AM A MODERATOR NOW!!! hahhahahahahahahaha, I have the power...
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Brian, glad to hear you found your problem.

Hmm its interesting why would brian search about something such as him finding out that his fan was broke. Is it possible that he was actually time warped and had posted it months before, thus he coulda searched and found his problem all along. Its the damn fan I shoulda known that I posted it a month ago. Thank god for the search function.

I have yet to see sprint post something here....very odd..
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Originally posted by BrianV
Also, what the hell kind of system is a system where everyone is treated differently? Then you better re-write the damn aggreement saying "Some people are exempt and can do whatever they want because that's how they are, and other people get barked at and banned for no apparent reason"

Let's see, Sprintmax posts garbage, Russ posts a defense in an environment of attackers and he gets banned for an extended period of time. Yeah, this server belongs in a country where you can pay $20 to a police officer and get out of murder.

In case you didn't notice, everyone is different. The effort to treat everyone exactly the same is ignorant of the very individuals we are.

Acting like you and Sprint are the same is like saying me and Kev are the same. That couldn't be further from the truth. It takes all kinds. I was merely pointing out that your frustrations with your issues could have been solved quicker if you had made the effort to research in the first place. That way, you could teach us something instead of the other way around.

Think about what Kev said regarding this in the Feedback Forum. And you know Kev doesn't speak up. So think real long about what he said.


You turned this into a big deal. I was just yanking your chain about being able to find it sooner. You are a good standing here and I expect the best effort from you. I was disappointed that didn't transpire this time around.


But tomorrow is another day.
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It's not necessarily about finding it faster, posting is a way of engaging in communication. Perhaps I'd rather share my ideas and struggles with others regardless of whether it's happened before to someone else.
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Originally posted by BrianV
It's not necessarily about finding it faster, posting is a way of engaging in communication. Perhaps I'd rather share my ideas and struggles with others regardless of whether it's happened before to someone else.
The post the solutions and what you went through after finding the info.
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Originally posted by BrianV
Yeah, this server belongs in a country where you can pay $20 to a police officer and get out of murder.
Originally posted by bill99gxe
C) Politics doesn't have jack to do with it.
D) Every member is treated differently.


OK, now I'm confused. Although bill says politics has nothing to do with it, there may be more to it. This board has an administator and moderators, which somewhat leans towards Communism. But on the otherhand, every member is treated differently. If I'm not mistaken, in Communist countries, everybody is treated equally. Crappy, but equally. BUT, as Brian said, this server belongs in a country where you can pay a cop $20 and get out of murder. Definately sounds like USA to me, but could also be in a communist country. HHMmm...Is this a communist board???
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Originally posted by BrianV
Ok Bill, the reason for this post was to stop the lengthly post on the other thread and to let everyone know the conclusion rather then search 3 pages deep. I often use the search function but this is in addition to another post. Also, had I not posted here not all people would have found the resolution. Thus, they would have perhaps thought that S/C maxima's can't handle long idle times. This post has more value then you think.
I agree. I think that repeating/similar topics and threads are inevitable. This is like a giant chat machine. We all talk about the same thing over and over again with friends. If we cannot talk about subjects that has already been discussed, then we wouldnt have anything to post since 99% of everything that has to do with maximas have already been discussed.

But I also agree with Bill on using search and stuff. So dont hate me Bill !
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OK, now I'm confused. Although bill says politics has nothing to do with it, there may be more to it. This board has an administator and moderators, which somewhat leans towards Communism. But on the otherhand, every member is treated differently. If I'm not mistaken, in Communist countries, everybody is treated equally. Crappy, but equally. BUT, as Brian said, this server belongs in a country where you can pay a cop $20 and get out of murder. Definately sounds like USA to me, but could also be in a communist country. HHMmm...Is this a communist board???
I said totalitarian in the feedback forum however perhaps it's an oligopoly? I wouldn't venture and say everyone is treated equally in a communist country. The top people (mods and admins) are treated exceptioanlly well why the rest of the ppl are treated like dirt. There are people here who are not moderators or admins that are 'above the law' (Sprintmax a fine example). It's like Sprintmax has diplomatic immunity because his brother is a diplomat or something like that.

I'm not fighting to change the board, on smaller environments like this it is required that you have some sort of structure, usually in this small of an area it's a leader with a cabinet (moderators in this case). I work for Dell and we have Michael Dell and his crew of execs that work close with him. I'm just your run of the mill server engineer and I can't change anything. However, Dell is a successful company and they do treat all their employees fair, not necessarily equal, some get paid more for the same job, etc. However, people don't bicker if it's deemed fair, it's when it is unfair that people complain. Thus, the reason for complaing on maxima.org, I don't expect it to be 100% equal but it should defiantely be a lot more fair.
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Originally posted by BrianV


I said totalitarian in the feedback forum however perhaps it's an oligopoly? I wouldn't venture and say everyone is treated equally in a communist country. The top people (mods and admins) are treated exceptioanlly well why the rest of the ppl are treated like dirt. There are people here who are not moderators or admins that are 'above the law' (Sprintmax a fine example). It's like Sprintmax has diplomatic immunity because his brother is a diplomat or something like that.

I'm not fighting to change the board, on smaller environments like this it is required that you have some sort of structure, usually in this small of an area it's a leader with a cabinet (moderators in this case). I work for Dell and we have Michael Dell and his crew of execs that work close with him. I'm just your run of the mill server engineer and I can't change anything. However, Dell is a successful company and they do treat all their employees fair, not necessarily equal, some get paid more for the same job, etc. However, people don't bicker if it's deemed fair, it's when it is unfair that people complain. Thus, the reason for complaing on maxima.org, I don't expect it to be 100% equal but it should defiantely be a lot more fair.

Totally agree with your points!

It's no wonder that good, knowledgable, contributing members have left this board in droves. I hardly post or check the board much myself anymore. The kind of attitude and content of certain moderator's post and what they allow from certain memebers (example: Sprint) makes me wonder why in the world I'm on this board. It simply sours the board "experience". I mean at times the muturity level is grade school at best. Seriously, the moderating is generally abysmal - it has to improve, and be MUCH more consistent, respectful, and applied equally. I guarantee this would make their job MUCH easier.

By the way I work at Dell too, RR2 PAD sales (be great to have a good contact in server engineering!)
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I wasn't referring to you Kev! If certain other moderators followed your example this would be one of the top boards on the net. I mean it!
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I wasn't referring to you Kev! If certain other moderators followed your example this would be one of the top boards on the net. I mean it!
But us moderators have to stick together. You know how that works.
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let me explain something to you Brian V.. the reason you think my threads don't get locked and deleted is because i don't b!tch about them when they are.. i take it and i move on.. such is life.. i probably have had more threads locked and deleted in the past week then you have total being on the org..

want one? well here you go..

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=141849

anyway.. you say i post garbage? dude.. i have answered more informative questions than you have posts on the org.. once again.. i am not a machine.. and am not going to make 100% of my posts ANSWERS to your god damn questions.. you guys don't pay me.. and don't compensate me for everytime i answer a maxima related question.. i don't have to dedicate 100% of my posts to your questions.. and i don't have to answer all yoru questions..
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Sheez over in this thread too. Sprint dude..you have a really big head on your shoulders. Every time you post some arguement...your always talking about how much you've given to the board...to be quite honest I really dont care. Stop flaunting yourself like your so great. Its getting annoying.
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Originally posted by infinitiblast
Sheez over in this thread too. Sprint dude..you have a really big head on your shoulders. Every time you post some arguement...your always talking about how much you've given to the board...to be quite honest I really dont care. Stop flaunting yourself like your so great. Its getting annoying.
He speaks the truth. Brian accuses Sprint of whoring it up all the time, which is not true. There's not need to step into this if you're not involved.
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Sheez over in this thread too. Sprint dude..you have a really big head on your shoulders. Every time you post some arguement...your always talking about how much you've given to the board...to be quite honest I really dont care. Stop flaunting yourself like your so great. Its getting annoying.
who is talking to you dawg? you need to mind your own business.. why are you following brian v around? are you his secretary? you gotta find someone elses war to fight?
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Funny man! You werent talking to me...just making an observation bro..Dont get your gap underwear in a wad.

Originally posted by SprintMax


who is talking to you dawg? you need to mind your own business.. why are you following brian v around? are you his secretary? you gotta find someone elses war to fight?
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make sure the power is off before attempting the project. my autoshop instructor's brother lost a few fingers to the fan. ever since he told me i've shooting out brikz from my other hole everytime i get close to a fan.
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after reading the whole post and my post again i once again feel like i said something totally random. but then my post actually pertains to the topic... this is a foreign feeling to me...
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Remove fan with motor.
Separate motor from fan (if possible-depends on skill and patience).
Purchase new motor from Nissan dealer or online Nissan parts source.
Reattach motor to blade and reinstall.

Since there isn't a shortage of theft/wrecked Maximas at the salvage yard, you should be able to get the fans/motors cheaper there.
Aftermarket fans usually mount using zip ties. They rarely are as good as the OEM ones. The good aftermarket fans cost as much as the Nissan one. So, IMHO, just purchase a new or recycled OEM fan.
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Originally posted by deadrx7conv
Remove fan with motor.
Separate motor from fan (if possible-depends on skill and patience).
Purchase new motor from Nissan dealer or online Nissan parts source.
Reattach motor to blade and reinstall.

Since there isn't a shortage of theft/wrecked Maximas at the salvage yard, you should be able to get the fans/motors cheaper there.
Aftermarket fans usually mount using zip ties. They rarely are as good as the OEM ones. The good aftermarket fans cost as much as the Nissan one. So, IMHO, just purchase a new or recycled OEM fan.
Thanks for the informative post!
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