Any of you guys heard of/know anything about/used NEO synthetic oil in your Max?

I did a search on it in the forums and I was surprised to find that there isn't a single mention of it.

Here's their website:
www.neosyntheticoil.com

It's pretty popular with a lot of the Supra guys, so I thought I might try it in my '02, both engine and trani.

Any thoughts/ideas?

Thanks

 

Huge $$$$$$$$$$$$

Don't really know anything else about it.

 

www.motoroilbible.com compared about 30 oils. Neo consistantly did very well, but Amsoil did best and costs alot less. Neo is good oil according to this author, but it's price was the highest.

 

Hands down the best, I know a guy who custom tunes NSX's and other super fast cars and that's all her uses. He used to use Redline a few yeras back but now swears by NEO.

 

While putting the oil in that NSX's and M5's use, does it really matter? Ask yourself this, do you drive your car that hard? If yes, go for it, if not, just go for amsoil

 

That's a real bad way of looking at it. Much like, do you eat healthy? No, I'm not fat therefore I eat whatever I want.

That still means your heart is getting clogged, etc.

Put good oil in your car if you care about your car PERIOD, I don't care if you never drive it above 1500 RPM, good oil is still better.

 

Well with your blown maxima, that changes the game a bit. Even Amsoil reduces their oil change intervals on forced induction.

I would use good oil yes, but the debate is.... is this NEO any better than let's say Amsoil. And if it IS better, does your driving justify the MAJOR increase is cost.

There is only ONE way of determining this. That is running NEO and Amsoil for xxxxx miles each and having both sampled/analyzed.

Any other way is just hersay and just opinion at best.

 

I prefer discussing it in that manner. SPECULATE AWAY!!!!!!!

 

Both have 25,000 mile intervals and both started in the early 70's with synthetic oils. Amsoil was first.

 

Well, for those looking for data, I present the following for your consideration. Of course, this isn’t the whole picture, but something to chew on:

Amsoil
Viscosity Index 182
Pour/Flash Point F -60/446
Kinematic Viscosity at 100 C 11.7
TBN 12
Noack Volatility % 6.9
CCS Viscosity 2555
HT/HS 3.5

Mobil 1
Viscosity Index 169
Pour/Flash Point -54/455
Kinematic Viscosity at 100 C 9.7
TBN 12.5
Noack Volatility 14.98
CCS Viscosity 3600
HT/HS 3.35

Neo
Viscosity Index 170
Pour/Flash Point -60/430
Kinematic Viscosity at 100 C 10.4
TBN 6.2
Noack Volatility ??
CCS Viscosity 3000
HT/HS 3.3

Redline
Viscosity Index 153
Pour/Flash Point -49/455
Kinematic Viscosity at 100 C 10.6
TBN ??
Noack Volatility 6
CCS Viscosity 3300
HT/HS 3.6

Valvoline
Viscosity Index 164
Pour/Flash Point -49/468
Kinematic Viscosity at 100 C 10.78
TBN 10.5
Noack Volatility ??
CCS Viscosity 2400
HT/HS 3.5

All weights were 5W-30, so all tests should be under the same conditions and offer a direct comparison between brands. The data is from Bill’s spreadsheet, the respective manufacturer’s websites and some of the HT/HS numbers are from an independent oil study posted all over the internet.

Definitions:
VI: Viscosity Index, "Viscosity Index" (ASTM D-2270) is an imperical number indicating the rate of change in viscosity of an oil within a given temperature range. HIGHER numbers indicate a low change, lower numbers indicate a relatively large change. The HIGHER the number the better.

Pour and Flash Points are fairly self-explanatory

Kinematic Viscosity: Shown, it is taken at 100 degrees C, which is a normal operating temp for the oil. The higher the number, the more viscous the oil. The allowed range to be a 30 wt. oil is 9.3-12.5

TBN: I’ll assume most are familiar with this from Bill’s spreadsheet, but generally, the higher the better.

Noack Volatilty: Determines the evaporative loss in % of an oil when exposed to high temperatures. The lower the better. This property is one of the prime reasons oil has to be added to a healthy engine when it is driven hard.

CCS Viscosity: Cold Crank Simulator Viscosity. Simply put, it’s an indication of how thick the oil “feels” to an engine at cold temperatures. The lower the number, the easier it will be to crank.

HT/HS: HT/HS or "High Temperature/High Shear" (ASTM D-4683) is an rating that determines the oils stability in a high temperature, high stress conditions. The oil's ability to withstand shearing and tearing is very important especially in a high RPM engine. The oil's ability to protect bearings, cylinder walls and rings, connecting rod bearings, main bearings, cam lobes and lifters, etc. is vital to an engine. For an oil to pass the ASTM D-4683, an oil must have a protective viscosity of 2.9 cP at 302 degrees F. The HIGHER the number the better!

 

Mark giving facts


HT/HS for Mobil's new SuperSyn European 0W/40 is causing me to seriously consider it in the future. Had to pass some rather rigorous Bimmer and Benz testing standards. It's quite tempting to recommend it for southern climates. A baseline analysis of it is on my list in the near future.

 

Mobil 1

 

I'm no longer an Amsoil Preferred Customer.


Does this mean I can't come to the chanting.....I mean meetings around the oil drum anymore?






My future Amsoil orders will be handled by MDV Synthetics, whoever they are.

 

You can still come, but you can only burn xl-7500, the rest of us burn the good stuff

Are they the resident snake oil salesmen