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Old 10-08-2002, 10:26 AM
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turbo vs supercharger

which would you recomend and what is the difference?? thanks alot
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I picked Turbo...

Reasons:
1)You can adjust boost with turn of **** vs. buying new pulley, removing and reinstalling SC every time.
2)N20 bottle eats up trunk space.
3)SC is made by $tealin and is PIA to install.
4)SC kit requires lots of work to get to 300whp, where as the turbo easily puts down 350+whp directly from Nigel.
5)Inorder to get 300whp with the SC/smaller pulley your boosting below 2000 RPMs, which is NOT necessary for around town, but depending on the turbo choice your not boosting till much later plus you can control your boost level via ****.
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Re: I picked Turbo...

Originally posted by IceY2K1
Reasons:
1)You can adjust boost with turn of **** vs. buying new pulley, removing and reinstalling SC every time.
2)N20 bottle eats up trunk space.
3)SC is made by $tealin and is PIA to install.
4)SC kit requires lots of work to get to 300whp, where as the turbo easily puts down 350+whp directly from Nigel.
5)Inorder to get 300whp with the SC/smaller pulley your boosting below 2000 RPMs, which is NOT necessary for around town, but depending on the turbo choice your not boosting till much later plus you can control your boost level via ****.


I will hopefully be in the market for T/C or S/C somewhere around next fall if everything goes right. You've giving me some very helpful information on choosing.

I have two question for you though?

Will I have to do any engine work to accommodate for the power boost?

And which one will cause less stress on your engine?
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Re: Re: I picked Turbo...

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I will hopefully be in the market for T/C or S/C somewhere around next fall if everything goes right. You've giving me some very helpful information on choosing.

I have two question for you though?

Will I have to do any engine work to accommodate for the power boost?

And which one will cause less stress on your engine?
SC will cause more stress cause it runs off the crack. if you run under 10psi on either you can keep stock internals. you have to get bigger exhaust for both. im tired.
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Old 10-08-2002, 11:35 AM
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Supercharger..

gives better gains..
more reliable..
cost less...
works better with Nitrous..
easier to tune..
and most importantly.. lets not make turbo maxima's as common as supercharged maxima's
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Originally posted by SprintMax
Supercharger..

gives better gains..
more reliable..
cost less...
works better with Nitrous..
easier to tune..
and most importantly.. lets not make turbo maxima's as common as supercharged maxima's
You want to feel special?

Being able to boost below 2000 with the supercharger does not mean you are actually boosting while driving around town.
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE


You want to feel special?

Being able to boost below 2000 with the supercharger does not mean you are actually boosting while driving around town.
Explain?

I probably shouldn't of said "necessary", more like still requires work from the engine although it's not being used.
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Re: ...

Originally posted by IceY2K1


Explain?

I probably shouldn't of said "necessary", more like still requires work from the engine although it's not being used.
Well, if you don't have the throttle plate opened enough, you won't get enough air into the engine. It is spinning enough to put the car into boost, but you're not allowing it to do so.

BTW, Nigel likes the lowend power of the SC (drove my car). Ask him about shifting my car into 3rd.
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If you have the money get the turbo. Id never get an SC cause ive heard bad things about vortec SC's. N20 is the biggest bang for the buck. After you get all the stuff for N20 it comes out to about 1200 depending on the kit.
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Alright Sprint...

Originally posted by SprintMax
Supercharger..

gives better gains..
more reliable..
cost less...
works better with Nitrous..
easier to tune..
and most importantly.. lets not make turbo maxima's as common as supercharged maxima's
WithOUT getting into the old SC vs. Turbo debate, explain why?

1)The V2 will NEVER put out as much power as the turbo with it's 55K RPM impeller limit. And the new GT-Series with 80+% adiabatic efficiency BLOWS(pun intended) the V2 away.
2)The Garrett BB turbo center sections are redefining the definition of reliability and the GT series is redefining efficency by reaching up into the 80+% adiabatic efficiency range, so I wouldn't say that's FACT anymore.
3)Maybe, definitely NOT if you go the same route as Kev.
4)What? Definitely explain that one!
5)Easier as in without a dyno? I don't see the difference.
6)There are TONS of turbo combinations/variations, so I doubt it's going to be all that common. Where as the SC guys have 7-pulley sizes to choose from. That's NOTHING compared to the possible combinations of turbine/compressor wheels and housings.
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Re: Alright Sprint...

Originally posted by IceY2K1


WithOUT getting into the old SC vs. Turbo debate, explain why?

1)The V2 will NEVER put out as much power as the turbo with it's 55K RPM impeller limit. And the new GT-Series with 80+% adiabatic efficiency BLOWS(pun intended) the V2 away.
2)The Garrett BB turbo center sections are redefining the definition of reliability and the GT series is redefining efficency by reaching up into the 80+% adiabatic efficiency range, so I wouldn't say that's FACT anymore.
3)Maybe, definitely NOT if you go the same route as Kev.
4)What? Definitely explain that one!
5)Easier as in without a dyno? I don't see the difference.
6)There are TONS of turbo combinations/variations, so I doubt it's going to be all that common. Where as the SC guys have 7-pulley sizes to choose from. That's NOTHING compared to the possible combinations of turbine/compressor wheels and housings.

1 - 6) I have a turbo and i want to remain unique.. so everyone should buy a superchager
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Re: Re: ...

Originally posted by Y2KevSE


Well, if you don't have the throttle plate opened enough, you won't get enough air into the engine. It is spinning enough to put the car into boost, but you're not allowing it to do so.

BTW, Nigel likes the lowend power of the SC (drove my car). Ask him about shifting my car into 3rd.
That's why he and YOU should have went with BB center sections and the GT series turbos. However, the Turbonetics 360* thrust bearing and T04E trim turbo is impressive.

Don't worry I'll shut up about that in a YEAR or so.
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Re: Re: Alright Sprint...

Originally posted by SprintMax



1 - 6) I have a turbo and i want to remain unique.. so everyone should buy a superchager
Oops! I didn't bother to look at your sig close enough. Sorry~!






Plus I figured you were BS like usual about a turbo when you got the timer.
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Re: Re: Re: Alright Sprint...

Originally posted by IceY2K1


OopsI didn't bother to look at your sig close enough. Sorry~!






Plus I figured you were BS like usual about a turbo when you got the timer.

Turbo timer is just for show.. so when i go to the grocery store or i have someone in my car they say "hey.. your car is still running" .. i ither go "no its not" - short timer situation... wait till it shuts off and make them look stupid.. or "i know " on long timer situations











i don't really have a turbo.. i photoshopped roadbeasts pipes to my engine
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Originally posted by IceY2K1


That's why he and YOU should have went with BB center sections and the GT series turbos. However, the Turbonetics 360* thrust bearing and T04E trim turbo is impressive.

Don't worry I'll shut up about that in a YEAR or so.
It's alright, that may be an upgrade later down the line.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Alright Sprint...

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i don't really have a turbo.. i photoshopped roadbeasts pipes to my engine
The pipe should move to the right a little.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Alright Sprint...

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The pipe should move to the right a little.
you are right and the right hand side of the pipe needs ot go up some more.. i shall go fix that in PS
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Alright Sprint...

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i don't really have a turbo.. i photoshopped roadbeasts pipes to my engine

Gotcha!
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Alright Sprint...

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you are right and the right hand side of the pipe needs ot go up some more.. i shall go fix that in PS
Hey, I just noticed something. Why are you using the lower vacuum port thingy on your BOV?
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Alright Sprint...

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Hey, I just noticed something. Why are you using the lower vacuum port thingy on your BOV?
its photoshopped, its just a way to make everything think i have a turbo now you called me on it
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Alright Sprint...

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its photoshopped, its just a way to make everything think i have a turbo now you called me on it
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busted huh?

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:wall its photoshopped, its just a way to make everything think i have a turbo :wall now you called me on it :bawling
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being an ex owner of a buick turbo-t and the current owner of a SC Max,i would probably have gone with the turbo if i could of afforded it.
my wife hates our max because we never drive it much because i'm always changing a belt or trying to realign the F#*&^%g thing!
once i get it straightened out though i will throw on a zex kit next spring along with a vb mod.
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Originally posted by 97blackv1
being an ex owner of a buick turbo-t and the current owner of a SC Max,i would probably have gone with the turbo if i could of afforded it.
my wife hates our max because we never drive it much because i'm always changing a belt or trying to realign the F#*&^%g thing!
once i get it straightened out though i will throw on a zex kit next spring along with a vb mod.

BOOM
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boom what?
the tranny or the motor?or both
i don't wan't that much juice......55 or something
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Originally posted by 97blackv1
boom what?
the tranny or the motor?or both
i don't wan't that much juice......55 or something
tranny
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Best of both worlds..... nitrous until the the turbo is spooled up.
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in about a year there will be a **** load of turbo maxes. good though.
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Re: Re: Alright Sprint...

Originally posted by SprintMax



1 - 6) I have a turbo and i want to remain unique.. so everyone should buy a superchager
Sprinty, I am a newbie why does your profile under mods section reads that your car has a supercharger and turbo?


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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
Best of both worlds..... nitrous until the the turbo is spooled up.
and thats how some Hondas hit 12s and below
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Re: Re: Re: Alright Sprint...

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Sprinty, I am a newbie why does your profile under mods section reads that your car has a supercharger and turbo?


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Re: Re: Re: Re: Alright Sprint...

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I am in the middle on this post! I cant say SCer or Turbo but common sense prevails that the man got 370HP out of Turbo. I am very anxious to see some sprint production kill videos or track times from one of these Turbo guys. Seriously. The evidence is there Dyno and broken axles ouch!!
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I forgot the BIGGEST difference.......

TORQUE!!!!

Nigels turbo kit is putting down 369.2 ft-lbs(370hp), where as jhans114 SC w/3.125 pulley is making 279.9 ft-lbs(329.8hp) and Kev's SC w/2.87 pulley is making 246.9 ft-lbs(288.3hp)

The ONLY people getting 300+tq besides Nigel are SERIOUS nitrous sniffers.
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Re: I forgot the BIGGEST difference.......

Originally posted by IceY2K1
TORQUE!!!!

The ONLY people getting 300+tq besides Nigel are SERIOUS nitrous sniffers.

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