Some people think Ingen cai draws cold air:
10-19-2002, 12:16 PM
#49
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Originally posted by SR20DEN
Is 90º air classified as COLD air?
umm no....
Is 90º air classified as COLD air?
umm no....
10-19-2002, 08:13 PM
#50
Originally posted by Street Reeper
90 degress outside is much cooler than the air in the engine bay that has a super hot engine operating in 90 degree temprature, and has the major path of heat (heat goes up) escape blocked by the hood. No matter what the temprature outside is, the CAI will always pull in cooler denser air, than is present in the engine bay.
90 degress outside is much cooler than the air in the engine bay that has a super hot engine operating in 90 degree temprature, and has the major path of heat (heat goes up) escape blocked by the hood. No matter what the temprature outside is, the CAI will always pull in cooler denser air, than is present in the engine bay.
10-19-2002, 08:15 PM
#51
Originally posted by Street Reeper
90 degress outside is much cooler than the air in the engine bay that has a super hot engine operating in 90 degree temprature, and has the major path of heat (heat goes up) escape blocked by the hood. No matter what the temprature outside is, the CAI will always pull in cooler denser air, than is present in the engine bay.
90 degress outside is much cooler than the air in the engine bay that has a super hot engine operating in 90 degree temprature, and has the major path of heat (heat goes up) escape blocked by the hood. No matter what the temprature outside is, the CAI will always pull in cooler denser air, than is present in the engine bay.
umm no....
10-19-2002, 09:53 PM
#52
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Originally posted by JAIMECBR900
It's also the most restrictive. You can get a bucket full of cold air, but if you run it thru the stock air box, you'll only get out a cup full. Nissan engineers were not the first to think about getting air from a cooler source, racers were. They may not be idiots, just bad copycats.
It's also the most restrictive. You can get a bucket full of cold air, but if you run it thru the stock air box, you'll only get out a cup full. Nissan engineers were not the first to think about getting air from a cooler source, racers were. They may not be idiots, just bad copycats.
10-19-2002, 10:46 PM
#53
I say we all get those electric superchargers on ebay, that or get a leaf blower engine and hook that bad boy up, then we'll all be boosted! 
But I'm going to be doing some flowbench work soon with intakes, I may be able to get data on which flows more air and the density and temp that air. We'll see
But I'm going to be doing some flowbench work soon with intakes, I may be able to get data on which flows more air and the density and temp that air. We'll see
10-20-2002, 08:13 AM
#54
Originally posted by Kojiro_FtT
And prove to me it's more resrictive. Everyone claims it's restrictive, no one has any evidence whatsoever. But hey, that's what Injen/PR/JWT/Franken/$tillen want you to believe, right? Remeber, we are not running boost, so who's to say the stock airbox doesn't allow plenty of air to pass?
And prove to me it's more resrictive. Everyone claims it's restrictive, no one has any evidence whatsoever. But hey, that's what Injen/PR/JWT/Franken/$tillen want you to believe, right? Remeber, we are not running boost, so who's to say the stock airbox doesn't allow plenty of air to pass?
10-20-2002, 06:28 PM
#55
Originally posted by Kojiro_FtT
And prove to me it's more resrictive. Everyone claims it's restrictive, no one has any evidence whatsoever. But hey, that's what Injen/PR/JWT/Franken/$tillen want you to believe, right? Remeber, we are not running boost, so who's to say the stock airbox doesn't allow plenty of air to pass?
And prove to me it's more resrictive. Everyone claims it's restrictive, no one has any evidence whatsoever. But hey, that's what Injen/PR/JWT/Franken/$tillen want you to believe, right? Remeber, we are not running boost, so who's to say the stock airbox doesn't allow plenty of air to pass?
10-20-2002, 09:35 PM
#56
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Originally posted by Kojiro_FtT
And prove to me it's more resrictive. Everyone claims it's restrictive, no one has any evidence whatsoever. But hey, that's what Injen/PR/JWT/Franken/$tillen want you to believe, right? Remeber, we are not running boost, so who's to say the stock airbox doesn't allow plenty of air to pass?
And prove to me it's more resrictive. Everyone claims it's restrictive, no one has any evidence whatsoever. But hey, that's what Injen/PR/JWT/Franken/$tillen want you to believe, right? Remeber, we are not running boost, so who's to say the stock airbox doesn't allow plenty of air to pass?
It's funny how thousands of people are all "brainwashed" by manufacturers and buy car parts that don't work.
The stocker does allow air to pass, but it does so w/i emmission and noise limits set by gov't which makes it RESTRICTIVE. Next your going to tell me that a stock exhaust is less restrictive than an aftermarket Y and custom exhaust... Okky dokky...
10-21-2002, 05:01 AM
#58
Originally posted by BriGuyMax
What I find amusing is people spending $200+ on an intake when they can get the same hp/sound spending LESS than $100.
What I find amusing is people spending $200+ on an intake when they can get the same hp/sound spending LESS than $100.
10-21-2002, 09:19 AM
#59
Originally posted by Kojiro_FtT
And prove to me it's more resrictive. Everyone claims it's restrictive, no one has any evidence whatsoever. But hey, that's what Injen/PR/JWT/Franken/$tillen want you to believe, right? Remeber, we are not running boost, so who's to say the stock airbox doesn't allow plenty of air to pass?
And prove to me it's more resrictive. Everyone claims it's restrictive, no one has any evidence whatsoever. But hey, that's what Injen/PR/JWT/Franken/$tillen want you to believe, right? Remeber, we are not running boost, so who's to say the stock airbox doesn't allow plenty of air to pass?
10-21-2002, 01:14 PM
#60
all aftermarket intakes do give an increase in hp because they are less restrictive than stock. but the difference in output between aftermarket intakes is minimal. get what u like. if u like it then it is worth the money u paid for it.
10-21-2002, 01:36 PM
#61
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Originally posted by JAIMECBR900
You want to stick with the stocker, go ahead. I shouldn't have to prove anything because if you have been around for a while you should know that it has been proven on several ocassions that the stocker is more restrictive due to bends, construction, and length.
It's funny how thousands of people are all "brainwashed" by manufacturers and buy car parts that don't work. The stocker does allow air to pass, but it does so w/i emmission and noise limits set by gov't which makes it RESTRICTIVE. Next your going to tell me that a stock exhaust is less restrictive than an aftermarket Y and custom exhaust... Okky dokky...
You want to stick with the stocker, go ahead. I shouldn't have to prove anything because if you have been around for a while you should know that it has been proven on several ocassions that the stocker is more restrictive due to bends, construction, and length.
It's funny how thousands of people are all "brainwashed" by manufacturers and buy car parts that don't work.
The stocker does allow air to pass, but it does so w/i emmission and noise limits set by gov't which makes it RESTRICTIVE. Next your going to tell me that a stock exhaust is less restrictive than an aftermarket Y and custom exhaust... Okky dokky...
Dave
10-22-2002, 09:31 AM
#62
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Originally posted by Dave B
This isn't the "stock" intake, but my Poorman's CAI made the same EXACT power as my HKS hybrid from 2000-5400rpms (174fwhp and 192fwtq). The only gains the HKS saw over the Poorman's was a max gain of 5 fwhp at 6000rpms (150fwhp vs 145fwhp). Dyno runs were on the same machine and under very similiar conditions within 2 months of each other. The Poorman's CAI at the time consisted of a K&N filter panel and no resonators.
Dave
This isn't the "stock" intake, but my Poorman's CAI made the same EXACT power as my HKS hybrid from 2000-5400rpms (174fwhp and 192fwtq). The only gains the HKS saw over the Poorman's was a max gain of 5 fwhp at 6000rpms (150fwhp vs 145fwhp). Dyno runs were on the same machine and under very similiar conditions within 2 months of each other. The Poorman's CAI at the time consisted of a K&N filter panel and no resonators.
Dave
). If you netted results at half the price, even more props to you. I just don't have the time or the equipment to make my own, so I went out and got the one that made the most sense.
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