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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 06:46 AM
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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 07:21 AM
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Old Oct 19, 2002 | 11:29 AM
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and blu that is my car is deezo's sig. that was after we drove to jersey from mass to find out hat the track was closed.
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Is 90º air classified as COLD air?


umm no....
90 degress outside is much cooler than the air in the engine bay that has a super hot engine operating in 90 degree temprature, and has the major path of heat (heat goes up) escape blocked by the hood. No matter what the temprature outside is, the CAI will always pull in cooler denser air, than is present in the engine bay.
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90 degress outside is much cooler than the air in the engine bay that has a super hot engine operating in 90 degree temprature, and has the major path of heat (heat goes up) escape blocked by the hood. No matter what the temprature outside is, the CAI will always pull in cooler denser air, than is present in the engine bay.
even if the CAI is still in the engine bay next to a hot tranny and behind a VERY hot radiator???
Old Oct 19, 2002 | 08:15 PM
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90 degress outside is much cooler than the air in the engine bay that has a super hot engine operating in 90 degree temprature, and has the major path of heat (heat goes up) escape blocked by the hood. No matter what the temprature outside is, the CAI will always pull in cooler denser air, than is present in the engine bay.
Is 90º air classified as COLD air?


umm no....
Old Oct 19, 2002 | 09:53 PM
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It's also the most restrictive. You can get a bucket full of cold air, but if you run it thru the stock air box, you'll only get out a cup full. Nissan engineers were not the first to think about getting air from a cooler source, racers were. They may not be idiots, just bad copycats.
And prove to me it's more resrictive. Everyone claims it's restrictive, no one has any evidence whatsoever. But hey, that's what Injen/PR/JWT/Franken/$tillen want you to believe, right? Remeber, we are not running boost, so who's to say the stock airbox doesn't allow plenty of air to pass?
Old Oct 19, 2002 | 10:46 PM
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I say we all get those electric superchargers on ebay, that or get a leaf blower engine and hook that bad boy up, then we'll all be boosted!

But I'm going to be doing some flowbench work soon with intakes, I may be able to get data on which flows more air and the density and temp that air. We'll see
Old Oct 20, 2002 | 08:13 AM
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Originally posted by Kojiro_FtT
And prove to me it's more resrictive. Everyone claims it's restrictive, no one has any evidence whatsoever. But hey, that's what Injen/PR/JWT/Franken/$tillen want you to believe, right? Remeber, we are not running boost, so who's to say the stock airbox doesn't allow plenty of air to pass?
Dyno's have proven the Franken Intake gives more power over the stock box.
Old Oct 20, 2002 | 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by Kojiro_FtT
And prove to me it's more resrictive. Everyone claims it's restrictive, no one has any evidence whatsoever. But hey, that's what Injen/PR/JWT/Franken/$tillen want you to believe, right? Remeber, we are not running boost, so who's to say the stock airbox doesn't allow plenty of air to pass?
ok do this. get a 1 foot long piece of garden hose, and make it straight then breathe out of it. then take a 36 inch long piece bend it in three angles and breathe throught it tell; me which one was easy. no imagine you engine doing that trying to suck in 660 CFM of air.
Old Oct 20, 2002 | 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by Kojiro_FtT
And prove to me it's more resrictive. Everyone claims it's restrictive, no one has any evidence whatsoever. But hey, that's what Injen/PR/JWT/Franken/$tillen want you to believe, right? Remeber, we are not running boost, so who's to say the stock airbox doesn't allow plenty of air to pass?
You want to stick with the stocker, go ahead. I shouldn't have to prove anything because if you have been around for a while you should know that it has been proven on several ocassions that the stocker is more restrictive due to bends, construction, and length.

It's funny how thousands of people are all "brainwashed" by manufacturers and buy car parts that don't work. The stocker does allow air to pass, but it does so w/i emmission and noise limits set by gov't which makes it RESTRICTIVE. Next your going to tell me that a stock exhaust is less restrictive than an aftermarket Y and custom exhaust... Okky dokky...
Old Oct 20, 2002 | 09:56 PM
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What I find amusing is people spending $200+ on an intake when they can get the same hp/sound spending LESS than $100.
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What I find amusing is people spending $200+ on an intake when they can get the same hp/sound spending LESS than $100.
Well we all know it's for looks anyway.
Old Oct 21, 2002 | 09:19 AM
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Originally posted by Kojiro_FtT
And prove to me it's more resrictive. Everyone claims it's restrictive, no one has any evidence whatsoever. But hey, that's what Injen/PR/JWT/Franken/$tillen want you to believe, right? Remeber, we are not running boost, so who's to say the stock airbox doesn't allow plenty of air to pass?
Pretty much every stock air intake setup on just about any car can be improved on. A corporations primary goal is to make money not horsepower. A simple improvement on intake and exhaust systems has been the most tried and true mods since before we were born. I agree we shouldn't believe Injen/PR/JWT/Franken/Stillen without evidence but it does appear that their is sufficient evidence that these systems are better than stock.
Old Oct 21, 2002 | 01:14 PM
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all aftermarket intakes do give an increase in hp because they are less restrictive than stock. but the difference in output between aftermarket intakes is minimal. get what u like. if u like it then it is worth the money u paid for it.
Old Oct 21, 2002 | 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by JAIMECBR900


You want to stick with the stocker, go ahead. I shouldn't have to prove anything because if you have been around for a while you should know that it has been proven on several ocassions that the stocker is more restrictive due to bends, construction, and length.

It's funny how thousands of people are all "brainwashed" by manufacturers and buy car parts that don't work. The stocker does allow air to pass, but it does so w/i emmission and noise limits set by gov't which makes it RESTRICTIVE. Next your going to tell me that a stock exhaust is less restrictive than an aftermarket Y and custom exhaust... Okky dokky...
This isn't the "stock" intake, but my Poorman's CAI made the same EXACT power as my HKS hybrid from 2000-5400rpms (174fwhp and 192fwtq). The only gains the HKS saw over the Poorman's was a max gain of 5 fwhp at 6000rpms (150fwhp vs 145fwhp). Dyno runs were on the same machine and under very similiar conditions within 2 months of each other. The Poorman's CAI at the time consisted of a K&N filter panel and no resonators.


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This isn't the "stock" intake, but my Poorman's CAI made the same EXACT power as my HKS hybrid from 2000-5400rpms (174fwhp and 192fwtq). The only gains the HKS saw over the Poorman's was a max gain of 5 fwhp at 6000rpms (150fwhp vs 145fwhp). Dyno runs were on the same machine and under very similiar conditions within 2 months of each other. The Poorman's CAI at the time consisted of a K&N filter panel and no resonators.


Dave
I was commenting to the other guy that said he preferred the stock over aftermarket because it drew air from a small scoop under the hood. If you made your own, props go out to you and it is still technically an aftermarket one (you just may not be a big "market" ). If you netted results at half the price, even more props to you. I just don't have the time or the equipment to make my own, so I went out and got the one that made the most sense.
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