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Old 10-19-2002, 08:00 AM
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Lease is running out, a 740i may be in the future.

I've been wondering(actually I've been stressing) if I can barely fit in a maxima, meaning I have to slide the seat all the way back, can I fit into a 740i? I've found a 1999 Artic Silver 740i at a dealer near me and I've always like them. But when I went to see if I could fit in some of the other BMW models at our local Manufactor's Auto show I couldn't fit into them (M3, 330, z3,M-roadster, 318i). Those were the only ones they had.
Are 740i's plagued withe the same motor failures that plague the M3 and the like?
 
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Lease a Infiniti M45, I talked to a guy that I used to work with that now works for Infiniti and he said they should be on the showroom floor within the month. As far as the 740i, yes, I have heard nothing but bad things about the realiability of the engine in those things.
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Lease a Infiniti M45, I talked to a guy that I used to work with that now works for Infiniti and he said they should be on the showroom floor within the month. As far as the 740i, yes, I have heard nothing but bad things about the realiability of the engine in those things.
Awww man, I just don't have the cash for a brand new car right now, (Elpaso's stock is not doing so well!) So I was looking to get a huge used luxury sedan. Well I'm going to look at Volvo S60's and V70's today so wish me luck.
 
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I hope a V70 AWDR or the T5
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Good luck man! Yeah, those T5's are nice. What about a used Q45, those things are boats, keep it in the fam.
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don't get an infiniti.. BMW ownership is an experience.. not just buying a car.. get the 740i
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I think the troublesome engine is the 5.0L in the 750iL. Avoid that one. A buddy of mine's father used to have one and it broke down all the time. The worst thing was that there are so few of these in the US that nobody really knows how to fix them, so they had to fly techs in from Germany to get the sucker fixed.

I think you're pretty safe with the 4.4L engine. That 5.0, and BMW M engine failures are a different story, though.
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BMW post warranty costs are a NIGHTMARE. Apart from paying 2-3X the labor costs of a cheaper car the parts are also that much more expensive.

Get the 740 only if you can get a full extended warranty on it.
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I think the troublesome engine is the 5.0L in the 750iL. Avoid that one. A buddy of mine's father used to have one and it broke down all the time. The worst thing was that there are so few of these in the US that nobody really knows how to fix them, so they had to fly techs in from Germany to get the sucker fixed.

I think you're pretty safe with the 4.4L engine. That 5.0, and BMW M engine failures are a different story, though.
Ok So 740i=ok, 750i=X. Gotcha. anyone know anything about their performance stats? I wanna run a Car Test on it.
 
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Good luck man! Yeah, those T5's are nice. What about a used Q45, those things are boats, keep it in the fam.
What years should I look at. 1999-2002?
 
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What years should I look at. 1999-2002?
Yup, I am not sure about how much you are looking to spend, the Q 99-02 is probably still up there. Have you looked at the volvo's too? My parents have a 91 wagon(840GLE?) with nearly 180k on it. They have had NO problems with that car.
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If you are looking for interior space, then forget about the last gen Q45. Its a well known fact among Infiniti salesman that the MAXIMA has more interior room than the last model Q45 and not by a small margin. The orignal poster doesn't seem like a small guy, so the Q is prolly out of the question. Too bad because in my area they are going for just a little over 20K and these are late models. Gotta love that Infiniti resale value. Hopefully their new line of products will do alot to change that.........
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How big are you that you don't fit in the Max?

My friend is 6'8 and was able to sit my max with the seat all the way back.


What about an SUV?
X5
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Yup, I am not sure about how much you are looking to spend, the Q 99-02 is probably still up there. Have you looked at the volvo's too? My parents have a 91 wagon(840GLE?) with nearly 180k on it. They have had NO problems with that car.
We did, I found a 99' Volvo 850. It's got leather and a moonroof! The salesguy said I could lease it for $320/month. Didn't seem to bad, heck I'm paying 479/month for my maxima.
 
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How big are you that you don't fit in the Max?

My friend is 6'8 and was able to sit my max with the seat all the way back.


What about an SUV?
X5
Oh I'm not big (well Six one is kina big) but my dads a big guy like Six Five and He's got some meat on him! I don't like suv's.....but if I did the X5 would be my weapon of choice.
I'm probably just goin to get a truck. Yeah a Big GMC Extended cab pick-up with a Big V8.....
 
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Originally posted by NYCe MaXiMa
How big are you that you don't fit in the Max?

My friend is 6'8 and was able to sit my max with the seat all the way back.


What about an SUV?
X5
can't fit in 5th Gen's.. but they can fit in 4th gen's
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can't fit in 5th Gen's.. but they can fit in 4th gen's
were they really bigger and faster!?!
 
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were they really bigger and faster!?!
not really.. the 5th Gen's have a console that makes it uncomfortable for tall people.. thats why i told SteVTEC to buy a 4th Gen.. its not larger per say.. but has more leg room
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dont get a used BMW unless its under warranty, my brother got a 96 740iL in April this year and the car has broken down on him three times(radiator twice and water pump, plus a buch of little things) and its cost him over $3000 so far. They charge 100 an hour and i can tell you that you can’t fix anything on car yourself, even changing the brake pads is an adventure. Other than that its a great car, but the reliability in not like a Nissan or Honda.
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dont get a used BMW unless its under warranty, my brother got a 96 740iL in April this year and the car has broken down on him three times(radiator twice and water pump, plus a buch of little things) and its cost him over $3000 so far. They charge 100 an hour and i can tell you that you can’t fix anything on car yourself, even changing the brake pads is an adventure. Other than that its a great car, but the reliability in not like a Nissan or Honda.
Bugger....that's not good to hear. I'm probably not going to go that old, but still. Man, I hate this it's sich an awesome car but it's unreliable. Why? It's just not fair!?!?!
 
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6th gen maxima? They are going to be bigger so it doesn't interfere with the Altima.

but then again, do you want another maxima?
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6th gen maxima? They are going to be bigger so it doesn't interfere with the Altima.

but then again, do you want another maxima?
We'll just have to wait and see what the furure has in store.
 
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Originally posted by Maxima06071
Ok So 740i=ok, 750i=X. Gotcha. anyone know anything about their performance stats? I wanna run a Car Test on it.
They're too heavy (4250lb) to really be all that fast (for what they are), but they still put down good numbers.

CarTest2000 gave 0-60 in 6.9s and the 1/4 mile in 15.3 @ 92, which is about on par with what the MAGS got for it. And in case you didn't know, BMW does tend to under-rate their power/torque figures by about 10HP/TQ or so. I ran CarTest with that in mind (+10 on both power and torque).

The 740 is definitely a very eLiTe car so if that's what you want then go for it. Bond actually drove a 740i in Tomorrow Never Dies, but they just rebadged it as a 750. Gotta love those sport package wheels though, and nothing is cooler than being in a 007 car
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not really.. the 5th Gen's have a console that makes it uncomfortable for tall people.. thats why i told SteVTEC to buy a 4th Gen.. its not larger per say.. but has more leg room
Yup

I don't even need to have the seat back all the way in my 4th Gen, either. TONS of room up front. Very very comfy on long trips, too. More so than my 01 Accord.

After my Accord was totalled I really wanted an 02 6spd, but I just couldn't buy one because the wheel and the center stack/console are too close to each other on the 5th Gen's, and my legs are too darn big. The 4th Gen has more room in this area. I don't have that problem on the Alty, but I *do* have it on the new Accord, so no Accord for me for the next 5 years
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Bugger....that's not good to hear. I'm probably not going to go that old, but still. Man, I hate this it's sich an awesome car but it's unreliable. Why? It's just not fair!?!?!
Yeah, BMW's just don't have the reliability of Japanese cars. It's a tradeoff that you have to make when considering a German car. If you get a BMW, *DO NOT* get it without an extended warranty. My co-worker with the 97 540i 6spd has had a few small problems (nothing major), but it's all been covered by his extended warranty. Repair costs out of warranty on those cars will eat you alive.

If you still want something reliable, big, and fast, consider getting a Lexus LS400, or a GS400. Both of those are lighter, more powerful, and faster than a 740i, and a ton more reliable too. Even a Lexus won't have the bling-bling factor that a BMW will, though. Yet another tradeoff to make. It's just a matter of deciding which is more important to you.

Sprint can tell you how fast a GS400 is!
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They're too heavy (4250lb) to really be all that fast (for what they are), but they still put down good numbers.

CarTest2000 gave 0-60 in 6.9s and the 1/4 mile in 15.3 @ 92, which is about on par with what the MAGS got for it. And in case you didn't know, BMW does tend to under-rate their power/torque figures by about 10HP/TQ or so. I ran CarTest with that in mind (+10 on both power and torque).

The 740 is definitely a very eLiTe car so if that's what you want then go for it. Bond actually drove a 740i in Tomorrow Never Dies, but they just rebadged it as a 750. Gotta love those sport package wheels though, and nothing is cooler than being in a 007 car
Yeah, actually I'm not looking to get a fast car, rather get a semi-quick car that's sturdy BIG! and cool(in a James Bond kind of way). So I thought Bling Bling 740i baby, Oh and those 18inch Sport package wheels are to die for! If I can find a 1999-2002 for under $34,000 by next march then I'm gonna get it....if not I may have a 6th generation maxima in my future.
Or a MiniVan/Truck.How much do extended warrenties usually run?
 
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Sprint can tell you how fast a GS400 is!
GS 400 had it all.. excellent ergonomics.. luxirous.. comfortable.. fast.. minor problems.. but all in all a great car.. you can get a 98 GS 400 for about 35k ..

nice engine .. tons of torque.. test drive one and see.. its definately a great choice for him though steve

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not really.. the 5th Gen's have a console that makes it uncomfortable for tall people.. thats why i told SteVTEC to buy a 4th Gen.. its not larger per say.. but has more leg room
I have trouble in 5th gens and I'm 6'5". Russ tried to argue with me that the 5th gens were bigger inside.
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I have trouble in 5th gens and I'm 6'5". Russ tried to argue with me that the 5th gens were bigger inside.
well arguing with Russ is like telling a child not to touch the stove
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well arguing with Russ is like telling a child not to touch the stove
True dat!
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Gotta love those wheels!
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How's this for a 1999 GS400?Lexus
 
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Get the GS400, or stay with Nissan and get a good condition early gen Q45- those cars are solid, look good, and are quick.
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Oh, did you win the lottery? How you gonna go from Maxima to 749, that's a big upgrade. Usually it's Max to 3-Series or A4 or CL Type S, etc. M3 motor failure is a myth, I have 3 relatives who have them ranging from 95-98. All are 100% satisfied. Problem is you need the big wallet for maintentance. You think Nissan is a rip-off when they charge $300+ for a 60k, wait til you go to BMW, $300 is like an appetizer!

I dunno, you got the coyne, spend it I suppose. It's only money and you only live once. Why put your money to work it might get laid off anyway
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You cannot go wrong with an E38 7 series. They are an amazing car. We used to have a 98' iL and didnt have any major problems with it. There was a few minor electrical problems, but it was all covered under. In its class nothing comes close to it in overall driving. The 740i with the sport package is actually a very capable luxury sedan. It compares more to the 540i and GS430 in terms of performance.
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definitley go for the 99 740i Sport with the M-Parallel 18inch rims. Hottness. Lots of room and PLENTY of TQ!
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Oh, did you win the lottery? How you gonna go from Maxima to 749, that's a big upgrade. Usually it's Max to 3-Series or A4 or CL Type S, etc. M3 motor failure is a myth, I have 3 relatives who have them ranging from 95-98. All are 100% satisfied. Problem is you need the big wallet for maintentance. You think Nissan is a rip-off when they charge $300+ for a 60k, wait til you go to BMW, $300 is like an appetizer!

I dunno, you got the coyne, spend it I suppose. It's only money and you only live once. Why put your money to work it might get laid off anyway
they're not really that expensive. All the ones I'm looking at cost around as much as a new maxima. 740i It's still under warrenty, and I could just go on E-bay or some place else and get some M-parallel wheels to top it off. not my favorite color..but something like this.
 
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Get an audi a6 2.7 twin turbo 6 speed.

What i want :P

0-60 sub 6 second, quarter low 14s
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Originally posted by Maxima06071
they're not really that expensive. All the ones I'm looking at cost around as much as a new maxima. It's still under warrenty, and I could just go on E-bay or some place else and get some M-parallel wheels to top it off. not my favorite color..but something like this.
I don't know where this factors in, but the E38 7-Series had a 7500 rebate in 2001. Kinda like the Maximas having the 2000 rebate on 98's and 2500 rebate on 1999's and then whatever they had on the 5th gen. That makes resale value go down, theory being why buy used when a new one costs $xx,xxx? Just a heads-up, see if that rebate is reflected in the used prices, maybe it is, maybe at unscrupulous dealers it's something they, like current owners, would rather forget.....$7500, that must have been nice.

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Originally posted by SteVTEC
They're too heavy (4250lb) to really be all that fast (for what they are), but they still put down good numbers.

CarTest2000 gave 0-60 in 6.9s and the 1/4 mile in 15.3 @ 92, which is about on par with what the MAGS got for it. And in case you didn't know, BMW does tend to under-rate their power/torque figures by about 10HP/TQ or so. I ran CarTest with that in mind (+10 on both power and torque).

The 740 is definitely a very eLiTe car so if that's what you want then go for it. Bond actually drove a 740i in Tomorrow Never Dies, but they just rebadged it as a 750. Gotta love those sport package wheels though, and nothing is cooler than being in a 007 car
BMWs dont underrate their power.....

They do however over rate their 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. Take a look at the M3/M5 try then ask an M3/M5 owner what kind of numbers they put on the track. They will be lucky if they can get them....
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LS400 of the same year

It'll pull away from the 740i at highspeeds. Its quieter and has a cloud 9 ride. Doesn't look as nice as the 740i or IMHo have the same pimp appeal, but its more reliable and you can always trust your Lexus dealer.

It rides less harsh than a Maxima's, but still feels more settled and button down than a Maxima's. Heh, Toyota Engineering at its best.
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