Philips True HID plug and play kits for $499..>>>
01-03-2001, 08:10 PM
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Hay a friend of mine just opened up this web site for Phillips HID's plug and play kit for only $499,heres the link http://www.hids4less.com ,check it out it's the cheapest you will find this kit any were! And one of the best systems around for any Max H4's and 9004 kits or any other size[for other cars].
01-03-2001, 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by emax95
Hay a friend of mine just opened up this web site for Phillips HID's plug and play kit for only $499,heres the link http://www.hids4less.com ,check it out it's the cheapest you will find this kit any were! And one of the best systems around for any Max H4's and 9004 kits or any other size[for other cars].
Hay a friend of mine just opened up this web site for Phillips HID's plug and play kit for only $499,heres the link http://www.hids4less.com ,check it out it's the cheapest you will find this kit any were! And one of the best systems around for any Max H4's and 9004 kits or any other size[for other cars].
also, is this the same kit as retrofit HID kit some other ppl are selling? what is the difference?
Thanx
01-04-2001, 08:38 AM
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[b]Personal Opinion[/b]
My 1st hid retrofit was from hids4less.com, no website at the time I ordered. I have the same kit as emax95. I didn't like the beam pattern at all. It was nasty, looked like spider webs in front of the car with TONS of glare. Do you agree emax? I dunno, I took it out right afterwards. The kit I have now is beam pattern corrected and true plug and play. I have pictures up, check the group deal section. The kit I got was more expensive ($600)but I know for a fact that they are better manufactured and TRULY beam pattern corrected. I don't mean to flame or anything, just my opinion because I've used these kits before.
01-04-2001, 10:20 AM
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DustMagnet- The kit being sold at hids4less is phillips and not the kit I have {you use to have},about the beam pattern it definatly is not perfect but exceptible to me anyways.
About the sight saying modification needed for the H4 ? I guess your right then if that is what is sais but I know that he will modify it for you for a small fee if it's not all ready modified because when I met him yesterday he said it was plug and play?So if your interested email him or something.
About the sight saying modification needed for the H4 ? I guess your right then if that is what is sais but I know that he will modify it for you for a small fee if it's not all ready modified because when I met him yesterday he said it was plug and play?So if your interested email him or something.
01-04-2001, 10:24 AM
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There's an explaination on the FAQ as to why you shouldn't use and why it won't work well on the 9004 application. Sure the driver may think it's acceptable... but there is a LOT of glare for the on coming traffic.
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01-04-2001, 10:50 AM
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Originally posted by Shingles
There's an explaination on the FAQ as to why you shouldn't use and why it won't work well on the 9004 application. Sure the driver may think it's acceptable... but there is a LOT of glare for the on coming traffic.
-Shing
There's an explaination on the FAQ as to why you shouldn't use and why it won't work well on the 9004 application. Sure the driver may think it's acceptable... but there is a LOT of glare for the on coming traffic.
-Shing
01-04-2001, 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by 99DustMagnet
I have a Philips D2R 9004 Kit on my car. Minimal glare, very nice beam pattern. I had a D2S kit before which caused dangerous glare. My neighbor has a 740iL with OEM hids, side by side, the glare is the same. I have pictures of my light pattern, look in the group deal section. True, the HID kits now will disable high beams, and indeed most HID Kits out there will yield nasty, DANGEROUS road glare. The beam pattern corrected D2R for 9004; that I have on my 99' I30, will yield very good results (aside from losing high beams).
Originally posted by Shingles
There's an explaination on the FAQ as to why you shouldn't use and why it won't work well on the 9004 application. Sure the driver may think it's acceptable... but there is a LOT of glare for the on coming traffic.
-Shing
There's an explaination on the FAQ as to why you shouldn't use and why it won't work well on the 9004 application. Sure the driver may think it's acceptable... but there is a LOT of glare for the on coming traffic.
-Shing
01-04-2001, 11:17 AM
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but that's the point, you CAN'T correct te beam pattern unless you change the way the filliments are aligned in the bulb.
how did you "compare" glare? Were you in a car driving towards you kit? or were you maybe 10 feet from the car? The basica principle is that the housing for 9004 was designed for a bulb with a filiment a certain way... and HID bulbs are aligned seperately.
-Shing
how did you "compare" glare? Were you in a car driving towards you kit? or were you maybe 10 feet from the car? The basica principle is that the housing for 9004 was designed for a bulb with a filiment a certain way... and HID bulbs are aligned seperately.
-Shing
Originally posted by 99DustMagnet
I have a Philips D2R 9004 Kit on my car. Minimal glare, very nice beam pattern. I had a D2S kit before which caused dangerous glare. My neighbor has a 740iL with OEM hids, side by side, the glare is the same. I have pictures of my light pattern, look in the group deal section. True, the HID kits now will disable high beams, and indeed most HID Kits out there will yield nasty, DANGEROUS road glare. The beam pattern corrected D2R for 9004; that I have on my 99' I30, will yield very good results (aside from losing high beams).
Originally posted by Shingles
There's an explaination on the FAQ as to why you shouldn't use and why it won't work well on the 9004 application. Sure the driver may think it's acceptable... but there is a LOT of glare for the on coming traffic.
-Shing
There's an explaination on the FAQ as to why you shouldn't use and why it won't work well on the 9004 application. Sure the driver may think it's acceptable... but there is a LOT of glare for the on coming traffic.
-Shing
01-04-2001, 12:34 PM
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The kit I got was premodified to correct glare. The gas capsule that houses the xenon gas is repositioned to reflect accurate placement versus the 9004 halogen filament location. If you play around with the bulb, you can see how the location and orientation makes the difference. The bulb orientation is different and premade with shielding (D2R). I had him drive towards me from 10 car lengths away with my car, then with mine. The glare was nearly identical. I just wanted to let people know that the beam pattern is good with minimal glare IF done correctly.
01-04-2001, 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by 99DustMagnet
The kit I got was premodified to correct glare. The gas capsule that houses the xenon gas is repositioned to reflect accurate placement versus the 9004 halogen filament location. If you play around with the bulb, you can see how the location and orientation makes the difference. The bulb orientation is different and premade with shielding (D2R). I had him drive towards me from 10 car lengths away with my car, then with mine. The glare was nearly identical. I just wanted to let people know that the beam pattern is good with minimal glare IF done correctly.
The kit I got was premodified to correct glare. The gas capsule that houses the xenon gas is repositioned to reflect accurate placement versus the 9004 halogen filament location. If you play around with the bulb, you can see how the location and orientation makes the difference. The bulb orientation is different and premade with shielding (D2R). I had him drive towards me from 10 car lengths away with my car, then with mine. The glare was nearly identical. I just wanted to let people know that the beam pattern is good with minimal glare IF done correctly.
Here's an example of 9004 vs 9006
Jeep Grand Cherokee, 9004
<img src="http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/jackk/xenon/jack030.jpg">
<img src="http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/jackk/xenon/jack035.jpg">
Honda CRX, 9006
<img src="http://users.ev1.net/~shinglin/cars/crx/lighting/hid9.JPG">
<img src="http://users.ev1.net/~shinglin/cars/crx/lighting/hid8.JPG">
Notice on the first pic of the Jeep? On the left is OEM blub and on the right is HID for 9004, the glare is noticeable. On the CRX, 9006, the original bulb's filiment alignment is the same as the HID bulb, thus less problems with beam pattern.
For more info on my setup visit:
http://users.ev1.net/~shinglin/cars/crx/lighting/hid.html
-Shing
01-04-2001, 01:45 PM
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The jeep in your picture is taken from a guy (Jack in Canada) who bought a homemade kit from http://www.xenonshop.com. He has the Philips D2S bulb inside. I know this because I've talked to him before about his HID kit since his jeep has 9004's also. He modified his setup because xenonshop's kits claimed "beam pattern corrected kits" was pretty much non-existant.
Jack's modified Philips D2S Bulb, notice the funky shield
His kit has a homemade shield that does not work like the D2R bulbs. He also custom made a base since xenonshops was useless.
Jack had to take apart a 9004 bulb and use the base to get it on the Philips HID bulb
My kit is so minimal in glare, compared to OEM BMW HIDs. I'm serious, I've seen a D2S kit in my car, and a custom made kit just like Jack's. The retrofit I have now is truly very minimal in glare. The distributor I got my lights from have modified the positioning and orientation of the 3rd Generation Philips D2R bulbs. My endless search for true non-glaring and beam pattern corrected HIDs have ended with this kit. Plug and play, no twist and turning, epoxy glue or anything. It was perfect the way it was when I took it out of the box. I just want to clear that it IS possible. I am not promoting the distributor that I got my kit off of, I just want to lead some org members to the right direction if they are interested in HIDs and don't mind about losing high beams. Shing, your 9006 CRX HID looks nice. Good choice in getting D2R. Most people are ignorant and go with D2S ignoring the fact that reflector housings have problems with non-shielded HID bulbs, even though it's brighter (run on sentence
)
Take care.
-Alex
Jack's modified Philips D2S Bulb, notice the funky shield
His kit has a homemade shield that does not work like the D2R bulbs. He also custom made a base since xenonshops was useless.
Jack had to take apart a 9004 bulb and use the base to get it on the Philips HID bulb
My kit is so minimal in glare, compared to OEM BMW HIDs. I'm serious, I've seen a D2S kit in my car, and a custom made kit just like Jack's. The retrofit I have now is truly very minimal in glare. The distributor I got my lights from have modified the positioning and orientation of the 3rd Generation Philips D2R bulbs. My endless search for true non-glaring and beam pattern corrected HIDs have ended with this kit. Plug and play, no twist and turning, epoxy glue or anything. It was perfect the way it was when I took it out of the box. I just want to clear that it IS possible. I am not promoting the distributor that I got my kit off of, I just want to lead some org members to the right direction if they are interested in HIDs and don't mind about losing high beams. Shing, your 9006 CRX HID looks nice. Good choice in getting D2R. Most people are ignorant and go with D2S ignoring the fact that reflector housings have problems with non-shielded HID bulbs, even though it's brighter (run on sentence
)Take care.
-Alex
01-04-2001, 01:59 PM
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nice chinese newspaper, muhahaha 
ok, about the HID. I haven't seen a 9004 conversion yet, but my 9006 is ok, the color isn't exactly the same as OEM HID, but it's much brighter and has correct pattern.
I heard they are coming out with a Vision brand conversion, which will make 9006(sorry no 9004) conversion look like the real thing even though your head lights assembly isn't designed for HID. So I might try that soon.
ok, about the HID. I haven't seen a 9004 conversion yet, but my 9006 is ok, the color isn't exactly the same as OEM HID, but it's much brighter and has correct pattern.
I heard they are coming out with a Vision brand conversion, which will make 9006(sorry no 9004) conversion look like the real thing even though your head lights assembly isn't designed for HID. So I might try that soon.
01-04-2001, 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by WoodEar
nice chinese newspaper, muhahaha
ok, about the HID. I haven't seen a 9004 conversion yet, but my 9006 is ok, the color isn't exactly the same as OEM HID, but it's much brighter and has correct pattern.
I heard they are coming out with a Vision brand conversion, which will make 9006(sorry no 9004) conversion look like the real thing even though your head lights assembly isn't designed for HID. So I might try that soon.
nice chinese newspaper, muhahaha
ok, about the HID. I haven't seen a 9004 conversion yet, but my 9006 is ok, the color isn't exactly the same as OEM HID, but it's much brighter and has correct pattern.
I heard they are coming out with a Vision brand conversion, which will make 9006(sorry no 9004) conversion look like the real thing even though your head lights assembly isn't designed for HID. So I might try that soon.
-Shing
01-04-2001, 02:12 PM
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What he attempted to do is a good thing. The rebasing will bring the light output source at near proper location. How's the bulb on the kit your purchased compared to the location of the oem bulb? The other thing I wonder is whether there's a difference in the housing of the I30 vs 97-99 Maxima housing. I know for example in my father's MPV although it uses a 9004 bulb, the headlights produce a lot more usable light.
The only thing that bugs me about this conversion is the lose of high beams... even with my HID kit on the crx, I still use the high beams.
-Shing
The only thing that bugs me about this conversion is the lose of high beams... even with my HID kit on the crx, I still use the high beams.
-Shing
Originally posted by 99DustMagnet
The jeep in your picture is taken from a guy (Jack in Canada) who bought a homemade kit from http://www.xenonshop.com. He has the Philips D2S bulb inside. I know this because I've talked to him before about his HID kit since his jeep has 9004's also. He modified his setup because xenonshop's kits claimed "beam pattern corrected kits" was pretty much non-existant.
Jack's modified Philips D2S Bulb, notice the funky shield
His kit has a homemade shield that does not work like the D2R bulbs. He also custom made a base since xenonshops was useless.
Jack had to take apart a 9004 bulb and use the base to get it on the Philips HID bulb
My kit is so minimal in glare, compared to OEM BMW HIDs. I'm serious, I've seen a D2S kit in my car, and a custom made kit just like Jack's. The retrofit I have now is truly very minimal in glare. The distributor I got my lights from have modified the positioning and orientation of the 3rd Generation Philips D2R bulbs. My endless search for true non-glaring and beam pattern corrected HIDs have ended with this kit. Plug and play, no twist and turning, epoxy glue or anything. It was perfect the way it was when I took it out of the box. I just want to clear that it IS possible. I am not promoting the distributor that I got my kit off of, I just want to lead some org members to the right direction if they are interested in HIDs and don't mind about losing high beams. Shing, your 9006 CRX HID looks nice. Good choice in getting D2R. Most people are ignorant and go with D2S ignoring the fact that reflector housings have problems with non-shielded HID bulbs, even though it's brighter (run on sentence)
Take care.
-Alex
The jeep in your picture is taken from a guy (Jack in Canada) who bought a homemade kit from http://www.xenonshop.com. He has the Philips D2S bulb inside. I know this because I've talked to him before about his HID kit since his jeep has 9004's also. He modified his setup because xenonshop's kits claimed "beam pattern corrected kits" was pretty much non-existant.
Jack's modified Philips D2S Bulb, notice the funky shield
His kit has a homemade shield that does not work like the D2R bulbs. He also custom made a base since xenonshops was useless.
Jack had to take apart a 9004 bulb and use the base to get it on the Philips HID bulb
My kit is so minimal in glare, compared to OEM BMW HIDs. I'm serious, I've seen a D2S kit in my car, and a custom made kit just like Jack's. The retrofit I have now is truly very minimal in glare. The distributor I got my lights from have modified the positioning and orientation of the 3rd Generation Philips D2R bulbs. My endless search for true non-glaring and beam pattern corrected HIDs have ended with this kit. Plug and play, no twist and turning, epoxy glue or anything. It was perfect the way it was when I took it out of the box. I just want to clear that it IS possible. I am not promoting the distributor that I got my kit off of, I just want to lead some org members to the right direction if they are interested in HIDs and don't mind about losing high beams. Shing, your 9006 CRX HID looks nice. Good choice in getting D2R. Most people are ignorant and go with D2S ignoring the fact that reflector housings have problems with non-shielded HID bulbs, even though it's brighter (run on sentence
)Take care.
-Alex
01-04-2001, 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by 99DustMagnet
I have a Philips D2R 9004 Kit on my car. Minimal glare, very nice beam pattern. I had a D2S kit before which caused dangerous glare. My neighbor has a 740iL with OEM hids, side by side, the glare is the same. I have pictures of my light pattern, look in the group deal section. True, the HID kits now will disable high beams, and indeed most HID Kits out there will yield nasty, DANGEROUS road glare. The beam pattern corrected D2R for 9004; that I have on my 99' I30, will yield very good results (aside from losing high beams). [/I]
I have a Philips D2R 9004 Kit on my car. Minimal glare, very nice beam pattern. I had a D2S kit before which caused dangerous glare. My neighbor has a 740iL with OEM hids, side by side, the glare is the same. I have pictures of my light pattern, look in the group deal section. True, the HID kits now will disable high beams, and indeed most HID Kits out there will yield nasty, DANGEROUS road glare. The beam pattern corrected D2R for 9004; that I have on my 99' I30, will yield very good results (aside from losing high beams). [/I]
<img src="http://www.cyberhosts.net/~gotrice/temp/hid02.jpg">
01-04-2001, 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by t2000j
so if i wanted a HID kit for my 95 maxima where do you recommend i get it? and what kind of kit would i get?
i was also wondering have anyone put a HID kit on their oem foglights??? thanks
so if i wanted a HID kit for my 95 maxima where do you recommend i get it? and what kind of kit would i get?
i was also wondering have anyone put a HID kit on their oem foglights??? thanks
Phuong, aka GotRice, sells them...
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01-04-2001, 03:00 PM
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Re: confused
Originally posted by t2000j
confused.
you just said h3 hid kits are probably unlikely cause of the length? then you say phuong sells them?
do you mean phuong sells the best hid kits for the 9004 bulbs??? thanks
confused.
you just said h3 hid kits are probably unlikely cause of the length? then you say phuong sells them?
do you mean phuong sells the best hid kits for the 9004 bulbs??? thanks
Phoung sells HID kits, and I doubt there's a kit for H3.
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01-04-2001, 04:29 PM
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Optics...
I believe my housing (99' I30) looks the same as 97-99 Maxima's. My friends 97' SE Max has the same "jewel" style headlights. I believe earlier years had different optics, more etchings on the housing assemblies. If you guys are interested in a HID Kit for 9004 or H4 (5th Gen Max's), check out my Group Deal going on for the Philips HID kit. Same kit I used on my car. As for the whole color temperature being less blue than OEM HIDs, it is true. The philips aftermarket HID bulbs are not as blue. It wasn't a problem with me since I only wanted something better than 9004. For all you guys who love blue, there is a blue quartz glass capsule that you can order, custom made for the Philips bulbs.
01-04-2001, 05:54 PM
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Re: Optics...
Originally posted by 99DustMagnet
I believe my housing (99' I30) looks the same as 97-99 Maxima's. My friends 97' SE Max has the same "jewel" style headlights. I believe earlier years had different optics, more etchings on the housing assemblies. If you guys are interested in a HID Kit for 9004 or H4 (5th Gen Max's), check out my Group Deal going on for the Philips HID kit. Same kit I used on my car. As for the whole color temperature being less blue than OEM HIDs, it is true. The philips aftermarket HID bulbs are not as blue. It wasn't a problem with me since I only wanted something better than 9004. For all you guys who love blue, there is a blue quartz glass capsule that you can order, custom made for the Philips bulbs.
I believe my housing (99' I30) looks the same as 97-99 Maxima's. My friends 97' SE Max has the same "jewel" style headlights. I believe earlier years had different optics, more etchings on the housing assemblies. If you guys are interested in a HID Kit for 9004 or H4 (5th Gen Max's), check out my Group Deal going on for the Philips HID kit. Same kit I used on my car. As for the whole color temperature being less blue than OEM HIDs, it is true. The philips aftermarket HID bulbs are not as blue. It wasn't a problem with me since I only wanted something better than 9004. For all you guys who love blue, there is a blue quartz glass capsule that you can order, custom made for the Philips bulbs.
Not really intersting in HID for the 4th gen max... the housing on it is pretty bad, I think the HID will only make it worse. I think the I30's probably have a different housing design making it better.
As for the blue capsule, that's gotta be the silliest idea ever... I purchased HID for light output... but putting on a capsule is silly, reduces the light output. It's interesting what some folks would do for the color... heh.
BTW do you have any pictures?
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01-04-2001, 06:07 PM
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I'm going to have to take pictures when I put the blue quartz capsule on. I will post pictures when I get them in. I also got HID lights to increase light output, the color is there, white or blue, I don't care.
As far as the housing, the I30 low/high beam housing are plastic. I30Cefiro, I30Krab, Emax95, Sycefiro, and others back me up. I don't have much experience with the newer maximas. I've only seen a 97 and 98 maxima. The housing looks identical. Of course, I don't know for sure either, I'll call the Nissan dealers and see what they have on spec sheets.
As far as the housing, the I30 low/high beam housing are plastic. I30Cefiro, I30Krab, Emax95, Sycefiro, and others back me up
. I don't have much experience with the newer maximas. I've only seen a 97 and 98 maxima. The housing looks identical. Of course, I don't know for sure either, I'll call the Nissan dealers and see what they have on spec sheets.
01-04-2001, 06:38 PM
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Originally posted by Shingles
I don't understand the obession with color. I guess for me, I wanted true lighting... and the fact taht I have 9006 and have a decent housing is a good thing. I donno, I like the fact that things are bright... color... blah.
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I don't understand the obession with color. I guess for me, I wanted true lighting... and the fact taht I have 9006 and have a decent housing is a good thing. I donno, I like the fact that things are bright... color... blah.
-Shing
a CRX never had HID. BMW offers Xenon on all models except Z3. So if I have the real xenon look, other Z3 drivers see me they will be like wtf, I must be a dumbass cuz I missed the xenon option when I ordered the car!
01-05-2001, 05:13 AM
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I noticed something disturbing >>
Some of your 5th Gen guys and guys who have I30s (wanting to get Cefiro headlights) don't seem to understand. YOu have/will have H4 headlights...dont fool with these...don't RUIN a good thing by getting the HID conversions. H4s are the best headlights you can get that are non HID. I would rather have a set of H4 headlights than any of these conversion kits that put out those awful beam patterns. If you want to see a good HID beam pattern, take a look at the Audis at night...
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