kafene

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i know this has been beaten to death as i have read so many in the past. i was considering getting the koni's for inserts, but does anyone know the model and price for all 4? and how BAD are the tokico blue's? i have eibach pro kits now.. how bad would they be w/ ground controls? and one more question. how hard is it to get tokico's replaced w/ the lifetime warranty? btw, i have a 2k se. (do they make tokico blues for 2k maxes, even?)

thanks.

bill99gxe

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Maxima Suspension Parts

Eibach Springs:

89 to 94 Maximas
Part #6311.140
Price: $260 ($174 with 33% off coupon)

95 to 99 Maximas
Part #6334.140
Price: $274 ($179 with 33% off coupon)

H & R Springs:

89 to 94 Maximas
Discontinued and unavailable

95 to 99 Maximas
Part # 53059
Price: $255 ($172 with 33 % off coupon)

Tokico Shocks:

89 to 94 Maximas
Front:
Part #HB3068 (Right) & #HB3067 (Left)
Price: $110 each ($74 each with 33% off coupon)

89 to 94 Maximas
Rear:
Part #HZ3132 (Left & Right)
Price: $62 each ($41 each with 33% off coupon)

Don't bother getting these if you have a 4th gen or 5th gen Maxima, especially for the rear. The beam axle/RSB combo in the back really beats these to death and they lose their dampening quickly....3rd gen Maximas don't appear to suffer from this as much as tokico must have valved them stiffer.

Koni Shocks:

Front:
89 to 94 Maximas
Part #86-2435 (Left & Right)
Price: $140 each ($94 each with 33% off coupon)

95 to 99 Maximas
Part #8641-1362 (Left & Right)
Price: $147 each ($99 each with 33% off coupon)
Note: These are inserts, so someone will have to cut your OEM front struts apart and replace with Koni inserts....i.e. "Someone who knows what they're doing".

Rear:
89 to 94 Maximas
Part #86-2436 (Left & Right)
Price: $140 each ($94 each with 33% off coupon)

95 to 99 Maximas
Part #8040-1242
Price: $139 each ($94 each with 33% off coupon)
Note: These are direct replacements, as all the Tokico struts are.....

For third gen Maximas, you would probably be happiest in the long term with the Eibach/Koni setup, but most 3rd gen cars (including mine) have not had a rapid 'softening' of Tokico struts when using the Eibach/Tokico setup as reported by the 4th Gen guys. For 4th gens, the H&R/Koni setup would get you a softer ride, while the Eibach/Koni setup would improve overall handling at the expense of a harsher ride. The Tokicos have too many long-term durability questions to warrant getting those, especially for 4th and 5th gen Maxes. The Koni shocks and Eibach springs will run you $600 to $650, while the Tokico/Eibach combo will cost you $375 to $400 after shipping. Add another $200 to $300 to install everything, with the upper number taking into account the cost of replacing the Konis in the front, which would include modifying the stock strut housings. Naturally, this install cost accounts for you getting it all done at once.

Again, be sure to break up this purchase to where you only spend $300 at a time on carparts.com to maximize your discount....For Konis, I would purchase two struts with two orders and then a third order for the springs. All you have to do with each purchase is delete the 'carparts.com' cookie that's in your browser's cookie folder.

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Go to http://www.importhookup.com for the latest code for the 33% off coupon.

This is a little difficult to find on carparts.com's website. Once you have selected you car, go to the "Performance" link and look under "Shocks and Struts" as well as "Springs" to view the Tokicos, Konis, and Eibachs.

bill99gxe

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Koni/H&R Install

Konis and H&Rs are a NIIIIICE combination.

I installed the Koni rears the other night.

The rears did help improve the handling even more, but not nearly as much as the front Konis did. The improvements are that I there's less understeer, and I can pull my line in better by applying throttle at the apex. I can follow a tighter line. To be honest, though, just having the front Konis on with the rear Tokicos was a pretty decent handling setup. I imagine it'd feel similar with front Konis and the stock rears. If cash is a problem for someone, I see no reason why they shouldn't consider just upgrading to front Konis, then decide later to get the rears.

It's fantastic how well the suspension soaks up huge bumps now. I still find myself expecting to get bumped around after a major dip, but the Konis completely eliminated all rebounding oscillations. Speedbumps feel totally different now, too...that's the only time the struts feel a little harsh, as there's just NO after-bump rebounding oscillations to lessen the harshness of the bump. I can live with it, though

The old Tokicos seem to be fine, but the fronts have pathetically little compression dampening. I don't remember them being this weak when new. I can push the rod in with one hand. Not much resistance at all. Also, they seem to be especially soft over the first inch or two of compression before stiffening up, which may have been why the car wandered so badly on the highway with Tokicos, and the point where they stiffen seems to vary; first, after 1 or 2 inches, sometimes not until 4 inches. I think that caused the wandering problems because the tires just weren't planted well, and the front tires just kinda moved up and down easily, the car moving around as a result.

FYI I have the following settings on the Konis:
Fronts are set to 3/5 half turns
Rears are set to 3/5 half turns

Other Posts that will help out with install/impressions:

<A HREF="https://maxima.org/forums/showthread.phtml?threadid=14149">https://maxima.org/forums/showthread.phtml?threadid=14149</A>

<A HREF="https://maxima.org/forums/showthread.phtml?threadid=13134">https://maxima.org/forums/showthread.phtml?threadid=13134</A>

<A HREF="https://maxima.org/forums/showthread.phtml?threadid=11525">https://maxima.org/forums/showthread.phtml?threadid=11525</A>

<A HREF="https://maxima.org/forums/showthread.phtml?threadid=5540">https://maxima.org/forums/showthread.phtml?threadid=5540</A>

<A HREF="https://maxima.org/forums/showthread.phtml?threadid=1515">https://maxima.org/forums/showthread.phtml?threadid=1515</A>

migano

Hi,
Sorry to wake up xth years old post
Where can I find how to install koni front 86-2435 ?
Just remove hexagon nut fron OEM strut, take out all and instert koni insert and use koni hexagon nut ?
What parts should come with koni ?
Someone know something about white plastic spacers with koni inserts ?

Thanks

Tarzan

If they are anything like Kyb GR2, that's the process.
I was told to put a small quantity of the original strut's oil into the column before inserting the new one.

migano

Ok, I understand that rears have hexagon nuts - therefore process is - remove original, insert koni red, add some oil for cooling and tighten with koni hexagon.
The front - drill the hole at the bottom of the oem, let the oil to go, cut some from the oem top, inser koni, bolt it tight at the bottom and take on some dust cover at the top where have been made cut to prevent enter dust and other debris.

I can get a set of four koni red for 245$ with delivery. I know, they'ŗe old model (86-2435, 86-2436), but price is interesting. I installed KYB inserts at the rear some months ago, one already shot, maybe because of bad dust cover or because of did not have KYB hexagon nuts, i tightenet with OEM nuts after some modifications.