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Old Jan 11, 2001 | 02:50 PM
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I'm running up to the local Walmart around 11 p.m. and noticed this nice looking Civic Si in the parking lot. It was black with white Volk rims, exhaust, clear tail lights, tail fin, and definitely lowered. I'm thinking man I hope this kid walks out when I do so that I can try to lure him into a race. Well I walk out and the car is gone, oh well. Then as I'm leaving Walmart I see him and his two friends pull out of a gas station out in front of me. They turn to get onto the freeway and I gun it up behind them and then sharply pull to the side of him. I look over and hear him down shift so we are off!! I nailed it and quickly started to pull away from him and then shut it down at 120 mph when I had at least 3-4 car lengths on him. I have to say that my new Cattman SS y-pipe REALLY makes a BIG difference with my top end power band. He pulls up along side me as I slow down to 70 mph and he gets on it again, only to experience what happen to him a few seconds before. He pulls up along side me and rolls down his window and says something but I couldn't understand so he motions me to pull off to the shoulder. He pulled off and I pulled off in front of him and waved him up to my car. He asks, "How much juice are you running?" I said none but my maxima is superchargered. We popped my hood so he could take a look and his two friends come up and were just saying, "Aw man that's bad." Then his buddy walks by as I'm getting back into my car and takes a look inside at my boost gauge and says, "And it's an automatic too I can't believe it." The driver said that he couldn't figure it out at first and said, "there is no way that those maximas are that fast, that's why I thought you were running NOS. I mean your car looks totally stock, what a sleeper." He told me he had an intake, exhaust, and had some piston work done and that he was putting out about 220 hp. I told him it was fun and he replied nice race.

Reposted this roadkill for those of you who don't visit the 5th Gen. forum. Later
Old Jan 11, 2001 | 03:03 PM
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That Civic Si is not putting out 220hp-->

The kid said he had some the piston work done...Yeah right. Why would you work on the pistons when you can work on the head first? What does he need pistons for? Obviously, nothing. He's just another Civic Si with usual bolt ons. Probably could barely break out of the 16s. He wanted to sound cool like he knew something about cars. Nevertheless, good KILL =) Your car should run high 14s.
Old Jan 11, 2001 | 03:03 PM
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Old Jan 11, 2001 | 03:10 PM
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Oh no!

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Old Jan 11, 2001 | 03:12 PM
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Re: That Civic Si is not putting out 220hp-->

yea...I don't care what kind of motor you are running Toyota, Honda, Nissan...but it's almost impossible to break 15s w/ a 1.6L N/A motor...trust me, I have tried...that's why I went for boost! hehe

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Old Jan 11, 2001 | 03:21 PM
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Re: Re: That Civic Si is not putting out 220hp-->

Originally posted by AE92Power
yea...I don't care what kind of motor you are running Toyota, Honda, Nissan...but it's almost impossible to break 15s w/ a 1.6L N/A motor...trust me, I have tried...that's why I went for boost! hehe

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I beg to differ... I did it before my motor swap, with intake, exhaust, and a header that wasn't meant for the D16 in my car. Lots of crx guys do it. Hell I know a guy that's in the 14s using a 1.5 liter. Tuning tuning tuning. Actually if I spend the time, the 1.6 in my car will put me in the low 14's high 13s, NA.

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Old Jan 11, 2001 | 03:46 PM
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Re: Re: Re: That Civic Si is not putting out 220hp-->

yea...but we are not talking hybrids...if you kept the same motor in the same car, like the Civic Si it's very hard to break 15s 1/4mi...Super Street did it with there JUN modified Civic Si w/ a LSD, but JUN parts are expensive...and the interior of the damn thing was gutted...

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Old Jan 11, 2001 | 03:58 PM
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Dude any pics of the toyota engine bay? I'd love to see that set up. Nice conversion. So what engine did you use? MR2 supercharged engine? Japan spec supercharged engine?? Bolt in??

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Old Jan 11, 2001 | 04:24 PM
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it's a Japan-spec 4A-GZE out of a Corolla Levin in Japan...maybe i'll take some pics soon, I am doing some work on the engine right now, I am probably going to a bigger crank pulley for 14psi of boost...like 200fwhp...

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Old Jan 11, 2001 | 04:33 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: That Civic Si is not putting out 220hp-->

Originally posted by AE92Power
yea...but we are not talking hybrids...if you kept the same motor in the same car, like the Civic Si it's very hard to break 15s 1/4mi...Super Street did it with there JUN modified Civic Si w/ a LSD, but JUN parts are expensive...and the interior of the damn thing was gutted...

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Ok, no hybrid, still before my swap, I was in the 15's, on 40 series 16" with 16" rims, stock clutch and all. I guess my point is, tuning is key.

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Old Jan 11, 2001 | 04:34 PM
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AE92Power:: The engine that's in your Corolla, is that the same engine in a '91 Corolla? I have a '91 Corolla was thinking if the older Celica engine was the same as mine. Then I was wondering if I could use the Celica heads on my engine and see if the turbocharger for the Celica would work on my car...is that possible?

BTW, I'm just playing with the idea...I doubt I'd actually do it. It'd make my Corolla a hell of a sleeper...hehe.
Old Jan 11, 2001 | 04:38 PM
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Oh no 5th gens are slow... What does he think he can beat a stock one?! LOL....he wishes.
Old Jan 11, 2001 | 04:40 PM
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Re: Re: That Civic Si is not putting out 220hp-->

Originally posted by AE92Power
yea...I don't care what kind of motor you are running Toyota, Honda, Nissan...but it's almost impossible to break 15s w/ a 1.6L N/A motor...trust me, I have tried...that's why I went for boost! hehe

-- Peter
My 1.6 SOHC non VTEC ran a best of 15.9. I/H/E...and that's pretty slow for a 88 CRX Si with those mods. I've got 179K miles and a bad head gasket.
Old Jan 11, 2001 | 04:43 PM
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Head gaskets for 4 cylinders are a piece of cake Jesse. I don't wanna hear any excuses from you!

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Originally posted by AE92Power
yea...I don't care what kind of motor you are running Toyota, Honda, Nissan...but it's almost impossible to break 15s w/ a 1.6L N/A motor...trust me, I have tried...that's why I went for boost! hehe

-- Peter
My 1.6 SOHC non VTEC ran a best of 15.9. I/H/E...and that's pretty slow for a 88 CRX Si with those mods. I've got 179K miles and a bad head gasket.
Old Jan 11, 2001 | 05:39 PM
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please explain the 20 doller thing ?
Old Jan 11, 2001 | 06:25 PM
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$20 please

he he have fun. no one is passing out 20 bucks. its just a game everyone is playing. he he lol
This is a maxima forum not porsche.. j/p Look at the pretty maxima.
Old Jan 11, 2001 | 11:34 PM
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please explain the 20 doller thing ?
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Old Jan 11, 2001 | 11:44 PM
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now the honda people don't like it when they get hosed
i should know
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they hate me
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Old Jan 12, 2001 | 08:24 AM
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Originally posted by mAdD MAX
AE92Power:: The engine that's in your Corolla, is that the same engine in a '91 Corolla? I have a '91 Corolla was thinking if the older Celica engine was the same as mine. Then I was wondering if I could use the Celica heads on my engine and see if the turbocharger for the Celica would work on my car...is that possible?

BTW, I'm just playing with the idea...I doubt I'd actually do it. It'd make my Corolla a hell of a sleeper...hehe.

Nope...you need the special model for my engine...my car came stock w/ the 4A-GE...the celica in america is the 5S-FE or if you have a pre 90 celica it's a 3S-GE...

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Old Jan 12, 2001 | 08:49 AM
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I beg to differ

I know some maxima guys and I think your board is kool...But dont be biased....I ran a 15.7 bonestock...Car was only 5 days old....Now in the mid to low 13's...I meet DMan_2KMax at alamo last weekend really nice guy...I have a 00 Turboed Si. Perfect sleeper...I agree 100% with you guys that kid was just another ricer.
Old Jan 12, 2001 | 12:00 PM
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Re: That Civic Si is not putting out 220hp-->

Originally posted by 1MAX2NV
Nevertheless, good KILL =) Your car should run high 14s.
Ill bet a supercharged 5g max, auto or not, could do alot better than that on a good track.
Old Jan 12, 2001 | 01:47 PM
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Hoping and Expecting Low 14's . . .

Originally posted by madmax2k
Originally posted by 1MAX2NV
Nevertheless, good KILL =) Your car should run high 14s.
Ill bet a supercharged 5g max, auto or not, could do alot better than that on a good track.
I agree with Madmax2K. I'm pretty sure I'm going to be running in the low 14's possibly 13.9, but we will have to wait and see until I take it to the track in the next couple of weeks. I'm hoping for some good times but a little nervous since I've never been to the track or done a 1/4 mile run. Any suggestions for a good launch? Thanks in advance.

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Old Jan 12, 2001 | 02:24 PM
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Re: Hoping and Expecting Low 14's . . .



I agree with Madmax2K. I'm pretty sure I'm going to be running in the low 14's possibly 13.9, but we will have to wait and see until I take it to the track in the next couple of weeks. I'm hoping for some good times but a little nervous since I've never been to the track or done a 1/4 mile run. Any suggestions for a good launch? Thanks in advance.

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Yes, just floor it when the 3rd yellow light comes on. You shouldn't worry about anything else until you have done a couple *shake down* runs.
Old Jan 12, 2001 | 02:30 PM
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Re: Hoping and Expecting Low 14's . . .

Originally posted by DMan_2KMax
Originally posted by madmax2k
Originally posted by 1MAX2NV
Nevertheless, good KILL =) Your car should run high 14s.
Ill bet a supercharged 5g max, auto or not, could do alot better than that on a good track.
I agree with Madmax2K. I'm pretty sure I'm going to be running in the low 14's possibly 13.9, but we will have to wait and see until I take it to the track in the next couple of weeks. I'm hoping for some good times but a little nervous since I've never been to the track or done a 1/4 mile run. Any suggestions for a good launch? Thanks in advance.

Diederik
I think it's a little more then just stepping on the gas. That is what everyone told me to do and i did it my first time and it gave me a bad time (spun through first and second) Stage late and as soon as that last yellow goes off, give it gas. Since your auto, power brake it. I wouldnt really do it over 2000-2500rpm. I wouls try it around 1500rpm to start and shift about redline. I usually shift at 6000 or so before i hit redline when you are actually dropping in power. Your first few runs are going to be terrible but they will get better as you go. You will also be trying new ideas and techniques. Good luck and dont forget to post the times!
Old Jan 12, 2001 | 02:44 PM
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hey man i met you up at alamo last weekend i really like your sleeper maxima yea i think you are good for high 13s but might get bad times the first few times trying out new things
Old Jan 13, 2001 | 09:35 AM
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Thanks for the advice guys but . . .

That is what everyone told me to do and i did it my first time and it gave me a bad time (spun through first and second) Stage late and as soon as that last yellow goes off, give it gas. Since your auto, power brake it. I wouldnt really do it over 2000-2500rpm. I wouls try it around 1500rpm to start and shift about redline. I usually shift at 6000 or so before i hit redline when you are actually dropping in power. Your first few runs are going to be terrible but they will get better as you go. You will also be trying new ideas and techniques. Good luck and dont forget to post the times!
if I power brake to 2000-2500 rpm won't I get a lot of wheel spin? The reason I ask is because it happens on the street when I do this even with the NT-235/45R17 on my car. I know the tracks tend to have stickier surfaces so maybe the tire spin won't be real bad but hey I'm just a rookie when it comes to track racing. Could anyone shed some light on the tire spin issue? I almost seem to get better launches when I don't power brake my car during street races. Thanks!
Old Jan 13, 2001 | 11:01 AM
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I would say power brake as well and since you have the VB mod from Don,

I probably would not downshift, I didn't do that when I had my 95 with NOS and VB mod, I just left it in Drive. But you may want to try different things out. wheel spin and hop is something you will have practice and test to see when it hops at what RPM? Hey check your email about about Austin.
Old Jan 13, 2001 | 11:58 AM
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When i do a 2000-2500rpm launch on the street, i dont get any spin really. On the track, its different. You will spin. You re goin to have to power brake it for a good run (60' time). I manually shift mine through the gears and leave OD off. Just dont miss a shift like i did once. Popped it into N instead of D. Doh! Practice is the key and do some testing w/ diff things. Good luck.
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